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Hay, I was thumbing through the deviantart pages while waiting for something to happen and I found this ship. I am thinking it would make a good addition to the fleet but does anyone know the specs on it? If I have the specs I can work up a ship, or do I guess at it.
http://thefirstfleet.deviantart.com/...here-587426025
http://thefirstfleet.deviantart.com/...aris-586672353
What do you think?
I'm curious as to why, when doing digital art, they carefully replicated Stabilo highlighter pens for the nacelles... I can see why they were used in some kitbashed models for Wolf 359 - it's a short cut on a tight schedule. Painstakingly depicting the pens in a digital medium saves no work, though, so why not do something original? Makes no sense to me as both an artist ans a ship designer.
I don't know that but over at Starship Modelers they show a how to where they build a starship using nacelles that look like that to build a model and they do look a little like Voyagers nacelles. I have seen ships that look like the design from the Original Series spinoff ships but not a Next Generations version like this. If I had a side view and a front view I could make and estimate but the angles aren't helpful.
The only place they have been used in TV Star Trek was in Best of Both Worlds I & II, in the Battle of Wolf 359 wrecked fleet. Here is two such ships, the USS Chekov and the USS Ahwahnee; seen here before they applied the battle damage: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X5S_IrO4mX...S%2BChekov.jpg and http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9yO7JyWzvy...2BAhwahnee.jpg Like I said, in kitbashing a model, it's a useful shortcut, but in CGI, there is no shortcut in using them, as it's just as much work to 'model' them as it is to do something unique. From a design point of view, it's a cop-out.
and from the pics it just looks like Galaxy-class variant (seems to use the exact same saucer), so as far as stats why not just use the uprated Galaxy build?
The aesthetic lack of the pens-nacelles is more than made up for in the strange joy of kitbashing becoming continuity.
If I use the Galaxy class specs I would have to make little changes as such as dropping a couple phaser arrays, cutting the number of torpedoes, reducing cargo down a little and possibly reducing the science stuff down. I will think about this awhile. To me they still look a little like voyagers nacelles.
Here is my version of the Variant of a Galaxy Class Starship I found and gave it a totally different registration number and generated a vessel that could be a good candidate. I reduced some systems a little here and there nevertheless much of the ship is still a Galaxy-class equal. I lost 103 SU’s by cutting out two Phaser arrays that would have been on the pylons outer curved edges, one photon torpedo launcher, reduced the torpedoes carried, reduced the size of the cargo bays and shuttles as well as losing 60 personnel from the crew. These changes are the result of a smaller nacelle and a slightly narrower secondary hull. This is my version what do you think?
U.S.S. Liberty NCC-47671
Class and Type: Liberty-Class Frigate
Commissioning Date: 2360
Hull Systems
Size: 8
Length: 642.51 meters
Beam: 463.73 meters
Height: 195.26 meters
Decks: 42
Mass: 4,450,000 metric tons
SUs Available: 3,130
SUs Used: 2923
Hull Outer <32>
Hull Inner <32>
Resistance Outer Hull: 8 <9>
Resistance Inner Hull: 8 <9>
Structural Integrity Field [1 Power/10 Protection/round]
Main: Class 5 (Protection 80/120) <32>
Backup 1: Class 5 (Protection 40) <16>
Backup 2: Class 5 (Protection 40) <16>
Personnel Systems
Crew/Passengers/Evac: 962/200/15,000
Crew Quarters
Spartan: None
Basic: 900 <90>
Expanded: 385 <77>
Luxury: 110 <110>
Unusual: 55 <55>
Environmental Systems
Basic Life Support [13 Power/round] <32>
Reserve Life Support [7 power/round] <16>
Emergency Life Support (48 emergency shelters) <16>
Gravity [4 Power/round] <8>
Consumable: 2 years’ worth<16>
Food Replicators [8 Power/round] <8>
Industrial Replicators
Type: Network of small replicators [2 Power/round] <8>
Type: 2 large unit [2 power/replicator/round] <6>
Medical Facilities: 10 (+2) [10 Power/round] <50>
Recreation Facilities: 8 (four main holodecks; 20 personal holodecks; large, pleasant eating facilities; 2 large lounges; 4 small lounges) [16 Power/round] <64>
Personnel Transport: Turbolift, Jefferies Tubes [2 Power/round] <24>
Fire Suppression System [1 Power/round when active] <8>
Cargo Holds: 300,000 cubic meters <9>
Locations: 18 main cargo holds and other minor holds throughout the ship
Escape Pods <10>
Number: 180
Capacity: 6 person per pod
Propulsion Systems
Warp drive Nacelles: Type 6C <100>
Speed: 6.0/9.0/9.2 [1 power/.2 warp speed]
PIS: Type H (12 hours of Maximum warp) <16>
Impulse Engine Type: 2 Class 7 (.75c/.92c) [7/9 Power/round] <35 x 2 = 70>
Location: Engineering section, Starboard Saucer section, Port Saucer section
Reaction Control System (.025c) [2 Power/round when in use] <8>
Power Systems
Warp Engine Type: Class 12/R (generates 630 Power/round) <133>
Location: Engineering section
Impulse Engine[s]: 2 class 7 (generates 56 Power/engine/round)
Auxiliary Power: 4 reactors (generates 5 Power/reactor/round) <12>
Emergency Power: Type F (generates 50 Power/round) <50>
EPS: Standard Power flow, +330 Power transfer/round <73>
Standard Usable Power: 798
Operations System
Bridge: Saucer section dorsal<40>
Auxiliary Control Room: Engineering section<24>
Separation System: Saucer Separation [10 Power] <8>
COMPUTERS
Core 1: Saucer section, port [5 Power/round] <16>
Core 2: Saucer section, starboard [5 Power/round] <16>
Core 3: Engineering section [5 Power/round]<16>
Uprating: Class Beta (+2) [2 Power/computer/round] <12>
ODN <24>
Navigational Deflector [5 Power/round] <32>
Range: 10/20,000/50,000/150,000
Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
Location: Forward Ventral
Sensor Systems
Long-range Sensors [5 Power/round] <54>
Range Package: Type 7 (Accuracy 3/4/7/10)
High Resolution: 5 Light-year (.5/.6-1.0/1.1-3.8/3.9-5.0)
Low Resolution: 17 light-years (1/1.1-6.0/6.1-13.0/13.1-17)
Strength Package: Class 10 (Strength 10)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
Coverage: Standard
Lateral Sensor [5 Power/round] <26>
Strength Package: Class 10 (Strength 10)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
Coverage: Standard
Navigational Sensor [5 Power/round] <24>
Strength Package: Class 10 (Strength 10)
Gain Package: Class Beta (+2)
Probes: 50 probes of varying types <5>
Sensors Skill: 5
Flight Control Systems Autopilot: Shipboard systems (flight Control) 4, Coordination 2 [1 Power/round in use] <14>
Navigational Computer
Main: Class 3 (+2) [2 Power/round] <4>
Backup: 2 <2>
Inertial Damping Field
Main <96>
Strength: 9 [3 Power/round}
Number: 6
Backup <24>
Strength: 6 [2 Power/round]
Number: 6
Attitude control [2 power/round] <2>
Communications Systems
Type: Class 9 [2 Power/round] <26>
Strength: 9
Security: -5 (Class Gamma uprating)
Basic Uprating: Class Beta (+2)
Emergency Communications: Yes [2 Power/round] <1>
Tractor Beams
Emitter: Class Delta [3 Power/Strength used/round] <12>
Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Location: Aft ventral
Emitter: Class Delta [3 Power/Strength used/round] <12>
Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Location: Forward ventral (above deflector)
Emitter: Class Alpha [3 power/Strength used/round] <9>
Accuracy: 5/6/8/11
Location: Shuttlebays 1, 2, and 3
Transporters
Type: Personnel [5 Power/use] <102>
Pads: 6
Emitter/Receiver Array: Personnel Type 6 (40,000 km range)
Energizing/Transition coils: Class H (Strength 8)
Number and Locations: Four in saucer section, two in engineering section
Type: Emergency [7 power/use] <102>
Pads: 22
Emitter/Receiver Array: Emergency Type 3 (15,000 km range)
Energizing/Transition Coils: Class H (Strength 8)
Number and Location” Four in saucer section, two in engineering section
Type: Cargo [4 Power/use] <88>
Pads: 400 kg
Emitter/Receiver Array: Cargo Type 3 (40,000 km range)
Energizing/Transition Coils: Class F (Strength 6)
Number and location: Four on Deck 4, Four on Decks 38/39
Security Systems Rating: 4 <16>
Anti-Intruder System: Yes [1 Power/round] <8>
Internal Force Fields [1 Power/3 Strength] <8>
Science Systems Rating 2 (+1) [2 Power/round] <18>
Specialized Systems: 2 <10>
Laboratories: 30 <6>
Tactical Systems
Saucer Dorsal Phaser Array <48>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Saucer Dorsal
Firing Arc: 405 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Saucer Ventral Phaser Array <48>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 200 (up to 5 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Saucer Ventral
Firing Arc: 405 degrees Ventral
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Upper Phaser Array (port) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section dorsal
Firing Arc: 360 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Upper Phaser Array (Starboard) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section dorsal
Firing Arc: 360 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Forward Phaser Array <24>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 80 (up to 2 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section forward (concealed when ship not separated)
Firing Arc: 405 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Ventral Phaser Array <23>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 80 (up to 2 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section ventral
Firing Arc: 405 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Aft Dorsal Phaser Array (Port) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section aft dorsal
Firing Arc: 360 degrees dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Aft Dorsal Phaser Array (Starboard) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section Dorsal
Firing Arc: 360 degrees Dorsal
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Aft Ventral Phaser Array (Starboard) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section Ventral
Firing Arc: 360 degrees Ventral
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Battle Section Aft Ventral Phaser Array (Port) <17>
Type: X
Damage: 200 [20 Power]
Number of Emitters: 50 (up to 1 shots per round)
Auto-Phaser Interlock: Accuracy: 4/5/7/10
Range: 10/30,000/100,000/300,000
Location: Engineering section Ventral
Firing Arc: 360 degrees Ventral
Firing Modes: Standard, Continuous, Pulse, wide-beam
Aft Torpedo Launcher <17>
Standard Load: Type II photon torpedo (200 Damage)
Spread: 10
Range: 15/350,000/1,500,000/3,500,000
Targeting System: Accuracy 4/5/7/10
Power: [20 + 5 per torpedo fired]
Location: Engineering section aft
Firing Arc: Aft, but are self-guided
Forward Ventral Torpedo Launcher <17>
Standard Load: Type II photon torpedo (200 Damage)
Spread: 10
Range: 15/350,000/1,500,000/3,500,000
Targeting System: Accuracy 4/5/7/10
Power: [20 + 5 per torpedo fired]
Location: Engineering section forward
Firing Arc: Forward, but are self-guided
Torpedoes Carried: 200 <20>
TA/T/TS: Class Gamma [2 Power/round] <12>
Strength: 9
Bonus: +2
Weapon Skill: 5
Shields (Forward, Aft, Port, Starboard) <100 x 4 = 400>
Shield Generator: Class 6 (Protection 1200) [120 Power/shield/round]
Shield grid: Type C (50 % increase to 1800 Protection)
Subspace Field Distortion Amplifiers: Class Theta (Threshold 400)
Recharging System: Class 1 (45 seconds)
Backup Shield Generators: 4 (1 per shield) <8>
Auto-Destruct System <8>
Auxiliary Spacecraft System
Shuttlebay(s): Capacity for 57 size worth of ships <114>
Standard Compliment: 23 shuttles, 11 shuttlepods
Location(s): Main shuttlebay (saucer section), two smaller bays (engineering section, forward dorsal, port and starboard)
Captain’s Yatch: yes <10>
Description and Notes
Fleet Data: the Liberty class Frigate is a design off shoot of the Galaxy class starship with a minimal reduction in crew and science abilities as the ship has been tasked with patrol duties and tactical missions more than the science duties of a Galaxy class. Starfleet believes that the ship is not needed as the ship is a pure combat vessel more than a science vessel. Debate is still going on over the need to upgrade the science systems to that of the Galaxy class or scrap any further production of the class. The first ship the U.S.S. Liberty has been designated a diplomatic vessel as it has enlarged conference areas and state rooms.
Enjoy.
Given the size of the nacelles, it looks like it would be size 6 or 7.
nacelle size does not dictate Size Class in SpaceDock, OAL mostly governs Size and a length of 642.51 meters makes it Size 8.
Judging by the nacelle size and the window spacing, it's nowhere near 600m. Probably in the 300-350m range shared by the Cheyenne and the Springfield.
be that as it may, Omega has put the length the same as the Galaxy-class (and rightly so IMO) as it looks to use the exact same saucer as the Galaxy. Even if it was the same length as the Nebula-class (442.3m) makes it Size 7. Anyway this entire line of questioning is pointless as Omega has put it at 642.51m so it is Size 8.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/...7b81e15437.jpg
The guy who made it puts it at 360m.
http://thefirstfleet.deviantart.com/...aris-637871899
http://comments.deviantart.com/1/614864149/4159800894
I reiterate "Anyway this entire line of questioning is pointless as Omega has put it at 642.51m so it is Size 8."
I would add if you think it should be 360m OAL (and Size 6) than do a Space Dock write up for that size. The thing is you will find it will most probably turn out to be similar to the Centaur-class (OAL 381.87m, Size 6)