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Born in Scotland, raised in America. My whole family talk funny, and it took forever for me to start using standard American spelling. But I can drop into the accent and slang in no time at all when surrounded by Scots.
The droid as genderless robots/AI sounds good. I figure that most of the Daystrom experiments would be gendered, if only to aid in their social integration.
The reason for Isis -- the first Daystrom gynoid in our campaign -- was female: CPT Maddox (he was promoted by the time of our series) built his android to the ideal he wanted... A sexy buxom redhead (using Carrie Stevens for the face & bod).
He was accompanying her on her 'socialization trials' on the series' vessel & one of the PCs, a religioso type Bajoran, found out he was giving her more than normal instruction... Actually bucked the chain-of-command & managed to get him withdrawn from the project, citing 'emotional damages'.
Maddox was booted from Daystrom, but Starfleet cares for its own, so he was attached to the Athena project -- the first sentient ship program in decades. His job was to build a robotic interface for the crew (yes, an avatar).
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I am about to introduce a Daystrom-Soong Gynoid in to the game as the Chief Sciences Officer...I think this will help make the game feel more like a TNG game http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
Certainly the Artifcial Lifeforms manual is a must for this kind for thing http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
And we Canadians also spell like the British, we figure it's their language, so they have the final say http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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Looks like a few people around here watched that episode of Buffy, the one where the college student built his own perfect girlfriend, then left her...Causing "her" to look for him.
But doesn't this take away from Data just a little bit. The reason I like Data was because he was unique. Wasn't one of the arguments a Data trial that SF didn't want to start a new "race"? Because that race would eventually lead to slave labour.
(Oh, there's that "U" again. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Sorry guys just voicing my apprehension of AI. The thought of "thinking machines" just scares the bejeezus out of me.
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I am opposed to the stagnant nature of the Star Trek UNiverse in media...I loved DS9 becuase we saw change, but we never saw the after effect of the change though.
with all the Androids created and encountered in Star Trek, I figure that the Daystrom institute might jsut trry and make one anyway...since Starfleet does not dictate terms to them...Remember the oignal Doctor Daystom and his precious M5? http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
Mad scientists the lot of them http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
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Yeah, M1-4 were dismel failures if I remember correctly. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
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M-5 wasn't exactly a shining success either. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
A big concern for the Federation has to be the moral implications of mass-produced sentient life. That's a bigger issue than I want to get into.
Of course, it does seem inevitable that they will have to face it. I mean, setting aside Flint's work on androids, and Dr. Roger Korby's work, and those from "I, Mudd" (all TOS), you still have the Exocomps, which were intelligent at least, and possessed of crude language skills. Whether they could achieve sentience is an open question, but if not now then eventually the answer will be yes.
(My brother suggests that Exocomps defintely were sentient, as they were aware of the end of their existance and aware that the world would continue afterwards, and that they had in fact reached a higher level of development as they displayed altruism when one voluntarily sacrificed itself to save Picard and Geordi.)
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>I'm 3/4 English.
That puts you in the line of great men, the likes of Shakespeare, Horatio Nelson and Monty Phyton, my good man.
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An interesting addition to this discussion is entered in the opening scences of Season 2 of Andromeda... Of all things.
In a quiet conversation between Becky and Rommie, the 'girls' discuss why Andromeda has a 'buff' female avatar.
When it is revealed that having a female form is a deliberate pshycological effect, helping all humans to feel at ease with the AI, which is why All human AI's are female... Based on ancient human knowledge dating back to warning pre-recordings of the 20th century...
While not 100% applicable to Trek, the concept does have some merit, and is easily considered into this equation and current discussion.
Mac. As the Author of the AI document, and therefore specialist, have you got any input for us?
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Another reason why AIs might be female.
Police dispatchers are mainly female, and the reason for this is that studies show that men (which most police officers are) can more easilly understand a woman's voice over the radio.
I don't know if it has to do with the frequencies of their vocal range or a more psychological origin, but the phenomenon has been detected and verified.
The question is if the same is true for females, or if it is the opposite, or if it is neutral. Unless women have a harder time understanding a female voice in these circumstances, a female voice will become the default because at least some people find it easier to understand.
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Spyone you are in the right ball park http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
Actually the reason alerts are female and why the American Air Force was the first to have their programmed voices be female is that the female voice can cut through background noise much better than a male.
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Apparently the same thing applies to broadcast.
The source I have says that, not only are the frequecies of male voices more prone to distortion, but that the physics of modern sound equipment, both microphones and speakers, makes them more prone to create distortion in those frequencies.
So, in the presence of background noise or interferance, female voices have a timbre that makes them easier to understand.
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Hmmm... I wonder.
Does this mean the Enterprise computer has the sexy (+2) advantage?
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Our Akira (USS Athena) certainly thinks she does.
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Well, Athena did get the Golden Apple from Paris, didn't she?
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Spyoe, I work at a radio station as a Traffic Reporter...at 10pm we begin recording the next 2 hours for the overnight "Rollover" now with their mikes at the same level, I always have to pot down the male vopices as they distort much easier than the female ones. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
I am using a hybrid of Mac's rules and the template for Data in the Price of Freedom to create Lieutenant Commander MUSE for my gaem...Gynoids away! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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