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I think the mirror Jadzia died about the same time as "our" Jadzia. I vaguely remember somebody saying the mirror Julian was in a bad mood because Jadzia had been killed.
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LUGTrek isn't really dead. Not as long as we remember it.
Mirror Universe Cast of Characters
Spock - Vulcan. Former first officer aboard the I.S.S. Enterprise. Driectly responsible for the fall of the Terran Empire. Present whereabouts unknown.
Regent Worf – Klingon. Former leader of the Mirror Universe Klingon-Cardassian Alliance; captured by the Terran Rebellion and presumed deceased.
Intendent Kira Nerys – Bajoran. Leader of the Mirror Universe Bajor; staunch ally of the Alliance.
Garak – Cardassian. High-ranking assistant to Intendent Kira; demoted as punishment for allowing the loss of Terok Nor (Mirror DS9) to the Terran rebels.
Benjamin Sisko – Human. Former collaborator to the Alliance; favored lover of Intendent Kira. Later leader of the Terran Rebellion; killed in action.
Miles “Smiley” O’Brien – Human. Skilled (though untrained) engineer. Current leader of the Terran Rebellion.
Jennifer Sisko – Human. Former collaborator with the Alliance; scientist that developed tracking sensors capable of locating the rebels’ secret base. Swayed by the “real” Ben Sisko to join the Terran Rebellion. Later killed by Intendent Kira.
Odo – Changeling. Misanthropic overseer of Terran slaves aboard Terok Nor. Killed by the “real” Julian Bashir.
Jadzia – Trill. Supporter of the Terran Rebellion. Lover to Mirror Ben Sisko.
Julian Bashir – Human. Prominent member of the Terran Rebellion.
Quark – Ferengi. Former bar owner aboard Terok Nor. Sympathizer to the Terran Rebellion; executed by Intendent Kira for assisting human insurgents.
Ezri – Trill. Mercenary and former lover of Intendent Kira.
Tuvok – Vulcan. Prominent member of the Terran Rebellion.
Rom – Ferengi. Member of the Terran Rebellion. Seeks revenge for the death of his brother (Quark).
Brunt – Ferengi. Partner of Ezri. Killed by Intendent Kira for treason.
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Intendent Deanna Troi* – Betazoid. Leader of the Mirror Universe Betazed, a planet of paranoid, xenophobic telepaths; collaborator with the Alliance.
Intendent B’Elanna Torres* – Human-Klingon half-breed. Assigned to rule the Sol sector and a wasted Earth.
Regent Dukat* – Cardassian. Former Legate briefly raised to leadership of the Alliance after Worf’s capture by the human rebels; eventually discredited and exiled by Obsidian Order spymaster, Enebran Tain.
Overseer Annika Hansen* - Human. Unlikely leader of the former Terran Empire. Trained by the Obsidian Order.
Captain Katherine Janeway* - Human. Captain of the Terran Empire flagship, I.S.S. Voyager.
* indicates non-canon information derived from Star Trek novels.
Who'd I miss (other than the entire crew of the original I.S.S. Enterprise)? I tried to keep it to the DS9 era, but did include some non-canon novel material. Please feel free to add on more material.
mactavish out.
Mirror Pakleds?!! What if, in the Mirror universe, they were hyper-intelligent!! They could still be cowardly, making them reluctant to get involved in the battles between the Alliance and the Rebellion, making it all the more important that the rebels sway them!
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"Captain? Is something wrong?"
"I just had the most terrible news. I have to attend the Annual Admirals' Dinner.
I've faced Borg, Romulans and battle-crazed Jem'Hadar, but nothing compares to this."
Captain Matt Hunter, USS Tempest
Just another idea. We already know from First Contact the The Borg can travel in time by using a temporal vortex. If their technology is simply that advanced, then surely they would be able to traverse different dimensions too... Again, just a thought.
Well, "Scorpion, Part II" did say that it was originally the Borg who invaded fluidic space, rather than Species 8472 invading ours. The implication from the next episode "The Gift" is that the Borg can access other dimensions (Seven mentions the origin of the species that the Borg assimilated their auto-regeneration tech from, and it sure sounded like they weren't from "our" dimension). On the other hand, I don't really see the Borg invading other dimensions before they've finished with our own. In the case of fluidic space, the Borg quite clearly really wanted the hyper-advanced biotech of the 8472s, so I'd say they make the occasional exception, but no more than that.
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"Hunter to Tempest, beam me outta here - fast!"
"Energizing... Oh, wait! I forgot to reset the emitters..."
"Chief?!!"
"Just kidding!"
Capt.Matt Hunter and Transporter Chief Andy Macintyre, USS Tempest, NCC-81205
I was always fascinated by Spock's struggle. At tremendous odds, he did something incredibly heroic- changing the nature of the Terran empire. Granted, he was a very capable character and had an extrememly potent ace up his sleeve. HOWEVER, after all that, when he succeds, the terrans are too weak and are invaded by neighboring empires. I found real tragedy and pathos in Spock's plight there.
In my movie-era campaign, the Bismark crew crossed over into the mirror universe. At this time Spock's campaign to right the wrongs of the Empire was in full swing. The crew got swept up in the action. Here, they had to work with the mirror-versions of their greatest enemies. There I planted a subtle clue which unfortunately the players missed: Their villans were conducting a conspiracy in the real universe, and when the helped the mirror-villans in Spock's campaign, they were shown the mirror-villains' secret base. They never thought to check that spot when they were back in the real universe!
Anyway, at the end of that adventure, Mirror-Spock asked them if any wanted to remain in the Mirror universe, to help him in his great quest to restore peace and justice to the Empire! One of the crew accepted (and that character was out of the campaign, but what a way to go!). Had everyone accepted, the whole campaign would have changed!
Okay, so I've spent a great deal of time working this out in my notes for my next session, and I'm kind of curious about what others think.
In my Mirror Universe, the majority of things are the same as in the traditional Mirror Universe: the Terran Empire was defeated and overthrown by the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance.
In my setting, however, the other powers are much the same as they are in the standard Star Trek universe. This can be given some credence as we've seen that the Klingons and the Cardassians are certainly very similar to their normal universe counterparts.
Where the differences truly lie are in the former Terran Empire and the races that they subjugated. These races would no doubt include the Vulcans, the Andorians, the Centaurans, and the Tellarites, but would likely also include most of the other races of the standard universe's UFP.
Further, the change in the humans (who I am blaming for the very existence of the Mirror Universe) also had repercussions on the Klingons, the Cardassians, the Romulans, the Bajorans, and a host of other non-aligned civilizations.
The only reason that the Klingons, the Cardassians, the Bajorans, and the Trill are not the same as in the standard universe is directly related to the actions of humanity and the Terran Empire. Were the Romulans any less Romulan in the Mirror Universe? Doubtful. Since the Mirror Universe is a dark reflection, they would probably have been worse than "our" Romulans before they would have been benevolent.
So the question remains: who is on which side?
Here's what I've come up with:
The Klingon-Cardassian Alliance includes the aforementioned races as well as the Betazoids and the Bajorans. The Klingons and the Cardassians, in the wake of Spock's changes to the Empire, rose up and overthrew their former masters.
The Betazoids, though not actually supportive of the rebellion at first, switched sides when they determined who was going to win.
The Bajorans, an advanced and (formerly) peaceful race, befriended the Alliance when the Klingons and Cardassians warned them about humanity.
The change from conquered peoples to the foremost power in the region has made them far more warlike and hostile than in the standard Star Trek universe.
The Terran Resistance is then be made up of mankind, probably most of the Vulcans and the other "founding" members of the Empire. We've seen that it also includes (to some degree) the Trill and the Ferengi.
Though the Andorians, Tellarites, and Centaurans were subjugated races, their preferential treatment led the Cardassians and Klingons to consider them no better than humanity and thus not worthy of taking part in the uprising.
The Trill, a race formerly allied to (but not enslaved by) the Empire, also fell under the Alliance war machine. They were forced into slavery by the Alliance and most of their parasites were killed by Cardassian bioweapons; consequently most Trill are not of the "joined" group in the Mirror Universe.
The Ferengi, never one to miss a business oportunity, make a living not only as merchants, but also as arms dealers and (a very few) as mercenaries. The Alliance seriously limits free trade, and the Ferengi, having never known the Terran Empire (which fell before encountering the Ferengi) believe that their best chance at a free market lies with humanity and their restoration to power.
The Romulan Star Empire was all but destroyed by the Terran Empire by the middle of the 22nd century, but there are still lots of Romulans remaining, scattered throughout space.
They developed cloaking technologies to avoid detection and capture first from the Terrans and then from the Alliance.
Many Romulan colony ships travel ever farther from the tumultuous region in the hopes of building a new home world and once again following the Way of D'era. Some, however, sensing the danger posed by the Alliance, have put aside their racial hatred of humanity and have become silent supporters of the rebellion by supplying weapons and supplies (a very Romulan tactic, I might add).
The other minor powers in the region (i.e. the Gorn, the Breen, the Tholian Assembly, etc.) are much the same as in the standard universe. The Breen are neutral, but lean heavily in favor of the Alliance. The Gorn, possessing powerful starships and weapons, avoid the Alliance and are strong enough to repel them if necessary. The Tholians, as in the standard universe, are extremely reclusive and have the technologies and resources to remain so.
The Alliance is aware of the Bajoran Wormhole but incapable of accessing it; the Prophets disapprove of the Bajorans' behavior and have turned a deaf ear to them. Consequently, there is no contact with the Mirror Dominion (yet).
Also, due to the death of the Emissary, there is no one capable of communicating with the Prophets. Because of their turning away from the Bajoran people, many of the Bajorans have likewise turned away from their traditional religion. This change has slowly turned the Bajorans into a cynical, secular, and exceptionally malevolent race.
The Sol system is under the control of the Alliance. Their chosen Intendent, B'Elanna Torres, is the daughter of a prominent Klingon woman who took a human slave as a lover. For this her mother was driven out and her father executed. Torres, raised as an outcast on Qo'nos, was assigned this position not as a reward, but as an insult and a punishment. Earth is a burned-out husk and the rest of the solar system isn't much better. For all intents and purposes, she is a "queen of the damned."
[Please note that this is not based on novels or canon information, but is rather what I consider a somewhat reasonable extrapolation of the current Mirror Universe.]
What have I forgotten? I know that I've left a lot out. Please post and let me know so I can prepare for my latest series.
mactavish out.
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How about this - the Mirror-Prophets may have turned their backs on the Bajorans, but what do you want to bet the Pagh Wraiths haven't?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
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"Hunter to Tempest, beam me outta here - fast!"
"Energizing... Oh, wait! I forgot to reset the emitters..."
"Chief?!!"
"Just kidding!"
Capt.Matt Hunter and Transporter Chief Andy Macintyre, USS Tempest, NCC-81205
OK, but whose to say whose in the mirror celestial temple? It might be that the Prophets were cast out into the fire caves and the Pagh Wraiths occupy the temple...Quote:
Originally posted by Capt.Hunter:
How about this - the Mirror-Prophets may have turned their backs on the Bajorans, but what do you want to bet the Pagh Wraiths haven't?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
Thing is, the Mirror Universe Bajorans didn't seem awfully 'god-fearing' to me? But then if you think about it, the Bajorans we see in the series are probably undergoing a re-surgance of Faith due to the proof of their gods existance...
The closest comparison to guage the religious activities of the miror Bajorans are the opening half of Emmisary and the couple of 'Kira during the resistance years' episodes...
In comparison they seemed to wear their beliefs as a badge.
Of course imagine Kai Winn as an underground religious leader, persecuted by the state and joining up with the rebels...
The thing to remember about the Mirror Bajorans are;
1- We see the mirror universe Leeta as a member of the rebels. So obviously some do support the terrans in some way.
2- The mirror Terok Nor never left Bajoran Orbit, and is controlled by the Rebels, the lack of attack from the planet seems to indicate that the Bajoran people as a group are no longer part of the Alliance, or are cut off in some way.
Combined with the absence of Alliance Bajoran soldiers after 'Through the looking glass', apart from the Intendant, this could mean it is simply the mirror Kira among the alliance trying to hold power... I just kept a few Bajorans involved in my initial description due to my favourite character being a Bajoran and a bad-guy in the mirror universe...
BTW Nice write up Mactavish.
I found the reference to the mission to find the Rommies, it was in 'Through the looking glass' and was the mission Sisko undertook as a cover for his return to the primary universe. The expected Time and Danger of the mission (He would be away for a long time and eventually 'disappear'), seems to back up the opinion of myself and Mactavish's mirror Rommies...
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Dan.
"A couple of thoughts from a random mind!"
All right, to address a couple of other groups...
I was working out this setting even further last night and came up with a bit more regarding the nature of the Terran Empire. I was looking for a rationale as to why the other subjugated races (i.e. Tellarite, Andorian, Centauran, Axanari, etc.) didn't join up with the Klingons and Cardassians when they opened up a can of whupass on humanity.
After reading the brief piece by S. John Ross about the Mirror Andorians, it was revealed to me in a flash. Multiple levels of subjugation!
Sure humanity was top dog; hence the name Terran Empire. Beyond that there are a number of divisions.
Vassal races have either been conquered for a long time and been integrated into the Empire, or they have willingly submitted to the Empire without resorting to hostilities. They are generally given a wide latitude and some measure of personal freedom. Certainly they still labor under the yoke of imperial rule, but they are essentially second-class citizens. They are not considered as important as humanity, but are viewed as capable servants and useful pawns.
Below the vassals are those races that are considered under the control of the empire. These "protectorates," or conquered races, are closely watched for any sign of rebellion, but are pretty much allowed to do what they please as long as, in the end, they serve the Empire. They are heavily taxed and brutally disciplined, but when they don't make waves, they are left pretty much alone.
The lowliest groups are those completely enslaved by the Terran Empire. Subjugated races have no rights and are considered little more than animals. The Cardassians, Klingons, and (probably) Nausicaans were all slave races under the Empire. They are usually kept around for heavily labor and hazardous duties considered unsuitable for the more important races.
The Empire would likely also have allies. Allied races are separate from the Empire and not directly under its control, but still usually do what they're told. The reason for allying rather than conquering is usually a matter of difficulty. The Vulcans, for example, were far more technologically advanced than humanity when First Contact was made. Mankind could probably have conquered the Vulcans, but the cost would have been far too high. Allied races often espouse the same (or very similar) beliefs as the Empire.
Enemy races are those deemed too powerful, numerous, devious, or whatever to be allowed to exist. The Romulans fell under this category. Realizing the low probability of subjugating the Romulan Star Empire, the Terran Empire simply wiped them out in a small series of brutal nuclear, chemical, and biological attacks. Few races fall into this category; it's usually more productive to enslave a people than it is to annihilate them.
Starfleet wages war and conquers new races and Imperial Security monitors them. The Imperial Starfleet is occasionally called to handle large-scale problems such as a planetary revolt. They generally deal with these situations with invasion forces, but just as often they remedy the situation with planetary bombardment or the release of other hideous weapons from orbit (i.e. biogenic weapons, atmospheric fusion propigators, cannibal nanites, etc.).
This is my Terran Empire and the way that they run things. They incorporate the worst aspects of humanity, the Cardassians, the Romulans, and the Klingons. I think that they are more or less irredeemably malevolent.
mactavish out.
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After that last post I completely forgot what I got on to post originally!
I was thinking about the Mirror Dominion and the Mirror Borg. Since neither group encountered the Terran Empire or the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, I figured that maybe they bumped into one another instead.
In 2364, a Borg sphere encountered an unstable wormhole in a far-spinward region of the Delta Quadrant. This anomaly led the sphere to a region in the Gamma Quadrant controlled by a state calling itself the Dominion.
After the sphere assimilated a trio of Dominion attack ships, a battle cruiser and several other attack ships arrived on scene and engaged the sphere. Despite the two dozen ships that engaged the Borg vessel, only a single attack cruiser survived the assault. Dominion reinforcements arrived in the Draius sector and once again engaged the Collective.
The second engagement proved more effective when several scores of attack ships assaulted the spehere kamikaze-style, damaging it severely. Thousands of Jem'Hadar shock troops boarded the sphere and engaged the Borg drones in hand-to-hand combat. While the casualties were enormous, the Dominion proved successful... but what the cost?
Unbeknownst to the Dominion fleet, the Borg had dispatched a message to the Collective via their interplexing beacon, thus informing them of the massive Dominion. The signal took several weeks to reach Unimatrix 01, but when it did the Collective immediately dispatched a fleet of fifteen cubes to invade and assimilate its new adversary. Unfortunately the unstable wormhole that had carried the first sphere to Dominion space had collapsed.
Using recently-assimilated transwarp technologies, the Collective's armada arrived in the Gamma Quadrant late in 2367. The Founders of the Dominion, however, were ready. Millions of newly-designed Jem'Hadar soldiers impervious to Borg assimilation nanoprobes and thousands vessels sporting new, experimental high-energy weapons met the Borg cues in battle near the Omarian Nebula. The carnage was on a scale previously unknown to either combatant.
In a war that lasted nearly ten years, the Dominion and the Borg Collective were both devastated and left in ruins. The template for the central intelligence of the Collective was disrupted and eventually destroyed by an invasion of nearly forty million Jem'Hadar troops, thus preventing any further incarnations of the Borg Queen. The Founders were almost all killed by a high-yield multikinetic neutronic device detonated near their planet that destroyed not only their solar system by a number of others within a few parsecs. In defeating an apparently unbeatable foe, both sides lost the war.
Small groups of Jem'Hadar and Vorta remained under the tenuous control of the few Founders not killed by the attack. Borg vessels scattered throughout the galaxy attempted to function as mini-collectives, yet most ended in self-destruction.
A single Borg probe, severely damaged, has managed to enter the Beta Quadrant. It transported a very precious cargo as far from the conflict-ridden warzone as possible. What it carried was the sole surviving copy of the Collective's backup systems. The goal was to locate an inhabited planet, assimilate the population, and begin building a new hive. The result of this journey remains unknown.
Heh heh heh.
How about that? Is that a "dark reflection" or what?
mactavish out.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mactavish:
I was thinking about the Mirror Dominion and the Mirror Borg. Since neither group encountered the Terran Empire or the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, I figured that maybe they bumped into one another instead.
(SNIP, really good idea)
Heh heh heh.
How about that? Is that a "dark reflection" or what?
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I've been making notes about the various lesser powers in the area (i.e. Tholians, Gorn, Talosians, Shelliak, etc.) and wondered how each of these powers would deal with the Alliance as well as how they dealt with the Terran Empire. Here's what I've come up with (for my campaign):
The Tholian Assembly was first considered an enemy by the Terran Empire when one of their vessels destroyed a Starfleet vessel sent to investigate some strange phenomena near what is now known to be Tholian space.
The Empire dispatched a fleet of ships to attack the Tholians, but their strange technologies and bizarre behavior were completely unpredictable. This led to a series of brutal defeats on the part of Starfleet. Nevertheless the attacks continued until the Tholians issued a statement that ended the hostilities (what it said is still unknown) and then withdrew into their own space.
Starfleet never pursued the Tholian issue further due to its previous encounters. The Tholians, too, kept their distance, never again encroaching on Imperial territory.
The Alliance sought assistance from the Tholians, but, after the coflicts with the Terran Empire, the Tholian Assembly developed a "hands-off" policy regarding other sentient beings. They told the Alliance that they were a neutral party and would not get involved, though did threaten retribution if they were again attacked. The Tholians have been quiet since the early 24th century.
The Gorn, too, were once targeted by the Imperial Starfleet. Fortunately, despite the orbital bombardment of Cestus III, the Gorn were able to mount an effective defense against the Empire. Their ships, superior to Starfleet's at the time, were able to rebuke the enemy and defend their borders when Starfleet approached. They were forced into isolation when Starfleet began patrolling their border, ganging up and destroying lone Gorn vessels whenever possible.
When the Alliance approached the Gorn for assistance in resisting the Empire, the Gorn happily provided them small ships and weapons, though covertly. The Gorn and the Alliance currently have a cordial relationship, though the Cardassians in particular trade with them quite frequently.
The Talosians were eradicated by Captain James Kirk when he bombarded their world with photon torpedoes, phaser fire, and a series of biological weapons. The few Talosians that survived the initial attack are believed to have succumbed to the hideous plagues that followed.
Oddly enough, however, the two attempts to form Imperial colonies on Talos IV (?) met with strange disasters when the colonists all killed one another. No evidence of Talosian influence was ever detected, but the Empire made no further attempts to settle there.
The Alliance has shown no interest in Talos IV or its former inhabitants.
The Shelliak had no contact with the Terran Empire.
The Alliance, however, has had great difficulty dealing with the Shelliak on numerous occasions, particuarly after they wiped out what they called an "infestation" of Cardassians and Klingons living on a planet ceded to them by an earlier treaty. The Alliance, while obviously irritated by this series of events, has chosen not to seek retribution.
What will happen with the Shelliak in the future is as yet unknown, though rumors suggest that the Terran Rebellion has offered to trade with them for biological weapons.
That's all I've gotten done so far. I'll add more later.
mactavish out.
When Q first introduced the Enterprise-D to the Borg, the Borg initially beamed over and began assimilating data and technology. . . which means they probably gained access to mission logs of the original Starship Enterprise. . . including their jaunt into the Mirror Universe. So, if they weren't aware of the Mirror Universe at that point, they certainly knew about it after their encounter with Picard's Enterprise.Quote:
Originally posted by Capt.Hunter
Well, "Scorpion, Part II" did say that it was originally the Borg who invaded fluidic space, rather than Species 8472 invading ours. . . .
As for the Borg native to the Mirror Universe:
If the Mirror Universe Borg aren't able to communicate with their other-dimensional brethren, then they probably aren't aware of the technological species in the Mirror Universe Alpha Quadrant because there was no "Q/Picard/Borg" incident as seen in "Q-Who ?"
If all Borg are able to communicate with one another inter-dimensionally, then all Borg are aware of all Alpha Quadrants in the universes in which they and Borg exist. (And if inter-dimensional Borg communication is possible amongst all dimensional Collectives, your new interdimensional Collective would be something on the order of 9 x 1099 drones or more. [Actually more, since Feynman's theory postulates an infinite number of alternate universes]
Talk about making the Borg scary again. . . .)
Once more into the breech, dear friends...
Well what if the Dominion managed to make its way through the Bajoran Wormhole? What if the Founders (essentially the same as in the standard Trek universe) discovered the Alliance and determined that it was worthy of subjugation and/or elimination? How would a Mirror Universe Dominion War unfold?
I can't imagine that the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance would bow to the wishes of the Dominion, and would thus eventually face an invasion force from the Gamma Quadrant. Who would we see as minions of the Dominion? Would the Breen still sign on as Alpha Quadrant allies?
More to the point, would the Resistance hook up with the Dominion in the hopes of being restored to power? I have no doubt that the Founders (through their Vorta mouthpieces) would assure humanity of their ascendance once the war was concluded, then use their overwhelming power to thoroughly oppress them once the hostilities ceased.
There are a host of possibilities here, particularly if things turned into a multi-sided war. I think that a Dominion-Breen Coalition vs. the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance would set the stage for an awesome Series. Moreover, a loose alliance of human rebels, Bajoran radicals, Trill mercenaries, Ferengi arms dealers, Vulcan strategists, and Romulan privateers could join the fray, perhaps taking one side against the other or playing both against the middle. Plus... cloaking devices! WOO HOO!
I think that this thread needs to come back in force, so I'll start posting new materials again.
mactavish out.