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Emphasis on "hope" to be finished ;)
Anyway, note that this will be the content only - I'll then start the layout.
If you playtest the thing and see some imbalances, please do tell me! :) That will help correcting it.
Darth: the starbase sample is this one
http://rpg.lionelkw.com/eso_sample2.pdf
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Actually I thought of something...about docking pylons. Its really just a matter of semantics I guess...but you could list them as "Docking Pylons/Berths" This crossed my mind as I was attempting to build an "Ournal" class space-dock (Star Trek 3). The Enterprise docked at more of a berth than a pylon. Again, just semantics. I would also think that the transporter ratio for a base would be different (higher) than for a starship...the same goes for shuttlebays, again this is just a passing thought whilst looking at Trek 3 and DS9 for that matter.
Good remark for the pylons, Darth - I intended them as berths too.
For transporters and shuttlebay ratios, I don't think it should be different - after all, they require the same amount of space and power as on a classical starship. However, it might be a good idea for a station designer to buy more of them than for a starship ;)
Hi all, time for a little status report.
The project takes a bit longer than expected to complete - mostly because I have had a lot of work recently. However, I'm pleased to announce that not a lot remains to be done :D
What remains:
- Vehicle construction
- Massive scale combat
- Some details about expanded operations and more station maneuvers
- Ship, vehicle and station profiles.
In the meantime - I was asked to put some more online, so here is a BIG sample (28 pages). Note that no layout is done, that I didn't even time to proofread the stuff but it should still be usable:
http://rpg.lionelkw.com/eso_sample4.pdf
(edit: Do not believe tables 2.16 to 2.19, they're mostly wrong and not completed yet)
The final book should be about 150 pages long. I hope it will be completely finished (layout and all) by the end of May.
As always, feedback is greaaatly appreciated :)
Bravo Killerwhale! :) This is really fine work. I hope Dec takes notice of your hard work.
Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise.
Thanks a lot captain, I'm glad you like it :)
I doubt that Dec will ever notice the book, though, although I'd love to work for them on the Trek license (just not under the adventure submission agreement ;) ). Hey, let me dream! :D
KW-
Not to get repetetive on the transporter bit, I had an idea and maybe it'd play out for your starbase stuff. How about instead of transporter types/rooms you could make them transporter complexes. IMHO it goes better with places like a spacedock or even DS9 (just based on the size of those things). You could then assign a certain # of transporters (rooms/types) per complex. Again, just the rantings of a psychotic.
Well... You might want to consider that starbases are often a lot bigger than ships, and that transporter numbers are based on Size; hence stations will "artificially" have more transporters than ships, without bending the space cost.
Take DS9 for example - based on my first assumptions, that's a Size 12 station. It would already have 6 emg / 6 personnel / 6 cargo transporters. Spend 2 space more (a negligible cost for a facility this size) and you get 18/18/18 transporters... That's way more than the biggest starships.
Additionnally, I feel bases and ships are built on the same rules - that's why I feel incomfortable bending the costs. After all, stations are nothing more than big static ships - IMHO. You can just install bigger systems on them, because of their static position. But a transporter remains a transporter...
Does it seem sensible to you? :)
BTW I appreciate the discussion very much.
So far, KW, looks solid to me. Like what you're doing with this.
Makes sense. Again, I would think that part of this is semantics really. Like the docking pylon/berth thing. I also forgot that 1 space will give you x (size/2) # of additional transporters. Perhaps this is another muted cry for all updated erratta and the like to be posted....which I've heard will be soon enough.Quote:
Originally posted by KillerWhale
Well... You might want to consider that starbases are often a lot bigger than ships, and that transporter numbers are based on Size; hence stations will "artificially" have more transporters than ships, without bending the space cost.
Take DS9 for example - based on my first assumptions, that's a Size 12 station. It would already have 6 emg / 6 personnel / 6 cargo transporters. Spend 2 space more (a negligible cost for a facility this size) and you get 18/18/18 transporters... That's way more than the biggest starships.
Additionnally, I feel bases and ships are built on the same rules - that's why I feel incomfortable bending the costs. After all, stations are nothing more than big static ships - IMHO. You can just install bigger systems on them, because of their static position. But a transporter remains a transporter...
Does it seem sensible to you? :)
BTW I appreciate the discussion very much.
As a side point...I noticed that in your starbase material you use the traditional "divide by" sign. It comes out looking like "+" on a color printer...on a B/W it come out ok. A suggestion might be to use "/" instead...again this is just my opinion (and it won't prevent me from screwing up the math :D ).
Thx guys :)
Thanks for the pointer about the divide sign! I've been in math for so long I persudaded myself that the / sign was not common knowledge, so I used the classical one... :o Where do I get such ideas?? :) I'll change it to the slash.
Finish this thing, man!:)
So far, looks great. Tried the combat maneuvers the other night; work like a charm.
I'm delighted to hear the thing works smoothly! :D
I hope I'll be able to finish by the end of the month - layout and all :) 15th of June at worst.
Very very very nice. I like what I see!
Now I just have to get my hands on the Starships Book! And I know just the place.
Looking forward to the final product, KW.
KW-
I know its only been a week since we/I last asked, but is there an ETA on the book?...**DROOL**...sorry 'bout that. **Mops up drool** Just wondering.