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01-24-2006, 01:25 AM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Andor Class Torpedo Cruiser

Yep, one of FASA's most well known TMP-era designs. This corrects much of the niggling problems with the drawing of the ship, most notably the sacuer and adding the torpedo bays mentioned in the writeup but left out of the art. 'Armed to the teeth' doesn't quite seem to do this ship justice. On the other hand, there's no way it has the power for all it's got available...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/files/fed_andor_196.gif

I noticed the ramscoops on this seem kind of... pointless.
01-24-2006, 01:51 PM
Identity Crisis

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Originally Posted by C. Huth

I noticed the ramscoops on this seem kind of... pointless.

Depends. The ram scoops must involve some sort of electromagnetic (or technobabble) field to draw material into the scoops anyway, as the amount of material that would hit such a small area without such a field would be too small to be worth bothering with. As suh a direct line of site towards the direction of travel is useful but, at Trek levels of technology, probably not essential.
01-25-2006, 02:21 PM
TFVanguard

USS Genser Class Escort Frigate

Usual stuff applies here, one of those infamous 'draw everything diagonally down to the right, then add wings!' designs. Redrew this one twice to get something that didn't suck, as the original art forgot an entire section of hull. Oddly, when finished, this ship looks more at home in the TNG era than the TMP one...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...genser_368.gif
01-25-2006, 03:54 PM
TFVanguard

SS Liberty Class Frieghter
(Redraw, 25 Jan 2006)

Finally got around to redrawing this beast today. The original art had the usual problems, but there was no way to reconsile the views together that well (the warp engines were at different levels, etc..) I decided to redraw the 'cowling' section completely, using the Overfield as a base. Improved, but , personally , not one I would include in my /own/ material.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...iberty_101.gif
01-26-2006, 12:07 PM
TFVanguard

SS Mo'Kal Class Transport

Yeah, this one sucks. Usual FASA problems, along with some bizzare backstory where this is supposed to be one of the Federation's FIRST Transports? In fact, these are out of service before the Enterprise launches in 2271! Why is this a problem? Look at the image and you'll figure it out... oy...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/files/fed_mokal_163.gif
01-26-2006, 09:58 PM
Phoenix

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

SS Mo'Kal Class Transport

Yeah, this one sucks. Usual FASA problems, along with some bizzare backstory where this is supposed to be one of the Federation's FIRST Transports? In fact, these are out of service before the Enterprise launches in 2271! Why is this a problem? Look at the image and you'll figure it out... oy...

Then why not add the appropriate pylons and nacelles to the design, it's not like you haven't redrawn worse TFVanguard. And as always, your work is exceptional.
01-26-2006, 11:14 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Then why not add the appropriate pylons and nacelles to the design, it's not like you haven't redrawn worse TFVanguard. And as always, your work is exceptional.

Eh, here I figured to just ditch the backstory anyway. (And, I read it AFTER I had gotten the scale and everything I wanted all started up.. :P I got lazy, dammit!)

The backstory also stated, explicitly, that this was one of the Federation's first transports. Sorry, but there's no reconsiling that one, even limiting it to just within FASA.
02-08-2006, 11:54 AM
TFVanguard

Not my design, and I sadly forgot the name of the person who did this one.. but it's been sitting in my 'develop' box for a long time, and I finally got the chance to knock it out today.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...abriel_205.gif
02-08-2006, 12:51 PM
TFVanguard

Kearsarge Class Light Cruiser

The SFB light cruiser, though I have a very hard time calling this a 'cruiser' of any sort - as it's got a small hull and no secondary hull to speak off. It's too tiny! Oh well, it IS armed like one, I guess...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...rsarge_353.gif
02-08-2006, 03:08 PM
First of Two

He's back! Yay!

Yeah that last one's more like a frigate, isn't it?
02-08-2006, 05:03 PM
TFVanguard

Caracal Class Cruiser

I'll start with a caveat, I've never been a fan of this ship. This is one of Todd Guenther's designs, and I'm not really sure what he was thinking with it. It's got kinda-sorta Federation warp engines, very comparable to the Connies, but then he places the ship 50 years earlier (which doesn't keep with his other sources).

The ship doesn't fit in any 'canon' or 'official' timeline out there, by any stretch of the imagination, as a pure Starfleet vessel. For FASA, I'm thinking of making these impounded-the-converted Axanar-rebellion ships (freighter, general purpose), made into Starfleet cruisers in a hurry to cover what losses there were in that rebellion. Maybe...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...aracal_176.gif
02-08-2006, 10:14 PM
toadmage

the idea freighter leaps out to my mind . small crew for maybe ever a non starfleet vessel but still a fed ship .
02-13-2006, 04:12 PM
TFVanguard

USS Belmont Class Cruiser

Nothing special, just one of the better 'fan designs' out there.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...elmont_210.gif
02-14-2006, 11:00 AM
Tobian

Wow you are really piling on through those things! That one is rather nice and sweet, fairly small, with a small engineering section, but then in TOS that's not much of a hindrance :)
02-14-2006, 02:23 PM
Captain Blake

I like it too. Light cruiser, perhaps with a shorter range, but better range and stability than the one nacelle jobs.

Alex
02-14-2006, 07:29 PM
TFVanguard

USS Excelsior Class Heavy Cruiser

A little trickier than I thought, largely due to the number of lines on the saucer, and the fact that there aren't many detail lines on the secondary hull for the eye to follow.

For size, for once, I followed FASA's saucer width, since those were - at one time - the official numbers Paramount gave them.

WHEW!

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...elsior_122.gif
02-14-2006, 10:48 PM
PGoodman13

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Excelsior Class Heavy Cruiser

Very nice!!
02-15-2006, 02:41 AM
The Tatterdemalion King

You've really reminded me how cool the excelsior looks... thinking of doing any of the excelsior prototypes seen onscreen?
02-15-2006, 08:41 AM
Captain Blake

Sweet. The Excelsior's one of my faves.

Nice one.

Alex
02-15-2006, 12:30 PM
Phoenix

That is a big (and beautiful) ship. One question, side view there's a gap on the bottom of the image - what is it?
02-15-2006, 01:55 PM
Doug Burke

Sweet! Now the question is, "Are you going to do an Enterprise-B variant?"

Since I'm going to be using one in my next Trek game in a few months...
02-15-2006, 02:45 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

That is a big (and beautiful) ship. One question, side view there's a gap on the bottom of the image - what is it?

It's on each interation of the shooting model, but there's no indication of why it's there, or what component it's attached to. I'm at a loss as to what it is, honestly.
02-15-2006, 02:45 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by Doug Burke

Sweet! Now the question is, "Are you going to do an Enterprise-B variant?"

Yeah, that's likely next. Probably in the next few days, depending on how much other stuff I get done.
02-15-2006, 05:14 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Yeah, that's likely next. Probably in the next few days, depending on how much other stuff I get done.

Woohoo! Schematics for the Durendal. :D
02-15-2006, 05:20 PM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by Doug Burke

Woohoo! Schematics for the Durendal. :D

Not DurAndal? ¬____¬
02-16-2006, 12:58 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by C. Huth

Not DurAndal? ¬____¬

PotAYto, PotAHto. Both spellings are accepted, IIRC... :p;)
02-16-2006, 03:36 PM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by Doug Burke

PotAYto, PotAHto. Both spellings are accepted, IIRC... :p;)

I was wondering if it was a Durandal/Marathon reference... ¬__¬
02-16-2006, 03:44 PM
TFVanguard

Romulan Tal Shaia Class Battlecruiser

My own design, basically futzing around with the idea of a movie-era Warbird. I'm not totally happy with it, but it was fun to do.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file..._shaia_701.gif
02-16-2006, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan Tal Shaia Class Battlecruiser

My own design, basically futzing around with the idea of a movie-era Warbird. I'm not totally happy with it, but it was fun to do.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file..._shaia_701.gif

I think I kinda like it :D
02-16-2006, 04:17 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by C. Huth

I was wondering if it was a Durandal/Marathon reference... ¬__¬

Nope. named for Roland's magical sword in the Song of Roland. Something similar to Excalibur that wasn't... well, Excalibur.
02-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan Tal Shaia Class Battlecruiser

My own design, basically futzing around with the idea of a movie-era Warbird. I'm not totally happy with it, but it was fun to do.

I did something similar for my last game. Will have to find it...
02-16-2006, 08:57 PM
skree

I am curious about the dimensions and capbilities of the TAL SHAIA -class BATTLECRUISER...
02-17-2006, 08:21 AM
Captain Blake

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan Tal Shaia Class Battlecruiser

My own design, basically futzing around with the idea of a movie-era Warbird. I'm not totally happy with it, but it was fun to do.

oOOOH. Shiny. Neat transitional ship from an era where we know little about the Roms.

Alex
02-17-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skree

I am curious about the dimensions and capbilities of the TAL SHAIA -class BATTLECRUISER...

Well, I'd say it should by roughly about the dimensions of a classic klingon D7 class Battle Cruiser (CODA size 6) since it is clearly based upon it`s spaceframe. Should be some 200 meter in length, probably a lot more in height than the original klingon ship, I'd guess a hundred meters high and 150 meters in width.

Featuring some more advanced systems than the klingon D7: like a cloaking device, plasma torpedoes and stronger disruptors (it's an upgraded design after all).

Perhaps I'll make some CODA stats. Like it really, growing fond of it. :cool:

EDIT: Just did: My take can be inspected, commented and praised here: http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...352#post151352 ;)
02-17-2006, 11:45 AM
PGoodman13

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan Tal Shaia Class Battlecruiser

My own design, basically futzing around with the idea of a movie-era Warbird. I'm not totally happy with it, but it was fun to do.

Sweet! I really like this ship! Must make stats....
02-17-2006, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PGoodman13

Sweet! I really like this ship! Must make stats....

Please do so and let us compare what we've come up with :)
02-17-2006, 05:47 PM
TFVanguard

USS Paine Class Heavy Frigate

didn't want to step on shoes or anything... doh!

I did this one largely to play with my new Excelsior pieces (and the Paine is described as from that era, originally). One of FASA's weaker efforts, even for the TNG officer's manual!

Anyways, a bunch of new lines, rescaled to the Excelsior for everything (basing it on the engines). Looks more like a believable ship now, though I think the warp engines look silly like that.. if they were angled DOWN instead, maybe...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/files/fed_paine_395.gif
02-17-2006, 07:29 PM
TFVanguard

USS Enterprise-B, Excelsior (Variant) Class Exploration Cruiser

By popular request...

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...rise-b_173.gif
02-18-2006, 10:29 AM
Cut

Now that's the one version of Excelsior class I can really stand. Great work TFVanguard!
02-20-2006, 03:13 PM
TFVanguard

USS Keith Class Scout

Usual problems, and one of FASA's typical 'start at the saucer and drawn random crap in a diagonally down direction, then throw on a warp engine' ... This ship is remarkably unimpressive all around. Yuck.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/files/fed_keith_422.gif

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