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Originally Posted by redwood973

I've gone back and forth with the Bajoran commendations. I've finally decided to let them stand as they are; as adding Dan's additions rather made the rest of the work feel like it needed more polish. So, I've decided to leave everything as is and as general as possible.

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No worries... At least it'll see the spit 'm polish in the Bajoran book...

I have a couple of new Advantages/Disadvantages in there too. I know what you mean abot most of them being work-ups of existing stuff though... Sometimes they add flavour... Othertimes less so.

For example one of mine is 'Attained' which is a diminished Social Status for a religious Bajoran (evvectively excommunicated), but with an alternate rule to swap Courage points for Pagh it takes on an additional effect that differs from the 'diminished social status' but without the Pagh rules I will admit that there is no change...

As I had been looking at the Religious Ranking rules I am aiming to keep the +1 to +6 range... But as yours are not just focused on the Bajoran Religion, a possible ammendment for +8 (Prophet or Emissary) would be the addition of 'Saint'... As a semi deity figure...

Dan, I'm actually thinking about cutting back on the Religous Rankings (using just +1 to +6). I was thinking of doing away with the Lector or Cantor at +1 and the Archbishop at +5. I assume you were thinking the same or do you have another route?

I'll be revising the highest rank to read "Prophet/Saint or Emissary."

Anyone think of any other rankings that could be added? I'm thinking we could have a law enforcement addition to the sheet. Any others I'm missing?

For the Bajor Adv/Dis, I kept the +1 to +6 range for both religious rank and political rank... From the DS9 Core Rules, But have used the +2 per rank for the Militia to draw it in line with Starfleet from the Players Guide...

This of course is inconsistant and means they use different purchasing systems, and I am considering going back but maybe adding in the PG version as an addendum...

hehe. I have added a Bajoran Constabulary range: (off the top of my head; Watchman, Sergeant, Constable, Chief Constable, Inspector, Chief Inspector, but have not really finallised this as I am not certain of the order, I think that perhaps I will be dropping Chief Inspector and shifting Chief Constable to the top...), and the Law enforcement book I did a while back was based on Owens rankings, so good pedegree there

I've debated using the Promotion from the Law Enforcement Fanbook, but have finally decided against it in favor of a more law enforcement flavored option rather than an intelligence agency flavored option on a 0 to +7 scale (Officer; Detective; Sergeant; Inspector; Superintendent; Chief; Deputy Commissioner; and Commissioner). I'm still working on this; I'm thinking of dropping perhaps Inspector and thus topping off at +6.

I've also added Rankings for Starfleet Marines (from the Consolidated Marine .pdf); the Breen and Gorn; as well as developing a Corporate Promotions option.

Depends on the force of course... But Detective isn't a rank its a job (IMO), at the very least its an alternate career track starting on a smaller promotion (from Officer to Detective). Thusly you also get Detective Sergeant and detective Inspector, I think it is only really affecting the field assignment; once you reach the higher ranks it merges again...

Over here it is a rank, in fact some places here have it in several grades (Detective First Grade is the highest of the three usual grades). My small town doesn't use the grades ratings and I believe we only have two or three guys of this rank, but they are Detective ranks in my local police department.

I like watching some of the BBC shows our local public tv stations play, the crime dramas are interesting, but to be honest I've never understood the rankings being used during the shows. I gather you over there use the term Inspector the way we use Detective here? Here Inspector is fairly high ranking (Captain or so, overseeing several departments) whereas Inspector Lewis doesn't seem to be high placed but rather what we would call a Detective.

I've been all over the place today with the Police Rankings whenever I've had the free time. I've scratched and penciled in and scrapped more times than I can count. The corporate rankings just flew out easily, but I'm having a terrible time getting the Law Enforcemnt rankings settled. I don't like refering to a 0 raking cost law enforcer as Agent (too Intilligence feeling), but I may use the Law Enforcment Fanbook ratings by default for lack of anything better.

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Originally Posted by redwood973

. I gather you over there use the term Inspector the way we use Detective here? Here Inspector is fairly high ranking (Captain or so, overseeing several departments) whereas Inspector Lewis doesn't seem to be high placed but rather what we would call a Detective.

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By my limited understanding (the same TV shows)... Thats pretty close. so for example;

In Uniform.
Constable > Sergeant > Inspector > Chief Inspector > Superintendant > Chief Superintendant

Plain Clothes/Detectives
Detective Constable > Detective Sergeant (DS) > Detective Inspector (DI) > Detective Chief Inspector (DCI) > I believe that should a DCI progress they are senior enough to be back in uniform...

This is nice and useful for the UK... Maybe some food for thought for an expanded version...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_...United_Kingdom

Thanks for the link, Dan. I like the idea of the detectives being outside the rank system; I don’t see everyone being capable of performing the detective duties, silly to make it a step in the ladder for higher advancement. I think I’ll drop the detective rank and may even drop “chief” too. That would bringing the Deputy Commissioner and Commissioner down to being equal with the political ranks of Deputy Director and Director–which they should be in my opinion.

Okay, here's what I'm thinking of using for the following ranks. . .anyone have any input they'd like to share? I've set all non-military promotions to top out at the +6 level (no reason other than it just seems to work better).

Gorn
+9 Antar
+8 orKhan
+7 daKhan
+6 aKhan
+5 Khan
+4 saKhan
+3 Arishok
+2 Padwar
+1 Ashaad
0 Than

Academic
+6 Chancellor
+5 Vice Chancellor
+4 Chair of Department
+3 Professor
+2 Associate Professor
+1 Faculty in Residence
0 Instructor

Corporate
+6 Chairman
+5 Director / Board Member
+4 President
+3 Vice President
+2 Manager
+1 Supervisor
0 Associate

Intelligence Agency
+6 Deputy Secretary
+5 Director
+4 Deputy Director
+3 Special Agent in Charge
+2 Spuervisory Special Agent
+1 Special Agent
0 Agent

Law Enforcement
+6 Commissioner
+5 Deputy Commissioner
+4 Chief
+3 Superintendent
+2 Inspector
+1 Sergeant
0 Officer / Constable

Religious
+6 Prophet / Saint or Emissary
+5 Pope / Kai
+4 Cardinal / Vedek
+3 Bishop / Prylar
+2 Minister / Priest or ranjen
+1 Deacon / Monk
0 Initiate

Just letting you all know I'm just about done rebuilding the Consolidated Traits after having lost it in the computer crash a few months back.

I have to admit I'm not being as kind towards fan made traits this time around; I believe it is becuase I've not taken a break between combing all the LUG books and the countless threads here looking for fan-works. This is a tiring endeavor going through all this material and this time aronnd I just can't justify adding fan traits that are little more than a name change or a slight tweek of the rules of how an existing trait works.

That being said, a handful of fan traits have made it while a few are not making it in but are finding their way in as mentions in the tables of other traits (the above mentioned Youth -2 trait for example is menitioned in the table of the Diminished Social Status Disadvantage.

I have to admit this work is worth having, I sorly missed it after having lost it, I had no idea how much I was referencing it even while building it. . .and losing it in the crash was a huge loss! I'm working on a way of making it avialable to you all.

This is an amazing thread! Thank you sir :)