non-human would be great, something Andorian would interest me .Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen E Oulton
As far as the Enterprise, I think it was chosen because they had both ships and shuttles named Enterprise.
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non-human would be great, something Andorian would interest me .Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen E Oulton
As far as the Enterprise, I think it was chosen because they had both ships and shuttles named Enterprise.
Hate to bust your anti-USN rant but:
HMS Enterprise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise_(D52)
HMS Voyager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Voyager_(D31)
first space shuttle, so OV-101 Enterprise was the first Earth built 'space ship' in real life, so I can see why homage was paid to the name....Ironically this vehicle's namesake is the NCC 1701 Enterprise from Star Trek..LoL
"Construction began on Enterprise on June 4, 1974.[1] Designated OV-101, it was originally planned to be named Constitution and unveiled on Constitution Day, September 17, 1976. A letter-writing campaign by Star Trek fans to President Gerald Ford asked that the orbiter be named after the Starship Enterprise. White House advisors cited "hundreds of thousands of letters" from Trekkies—"one of the most dedicated constituencies in the country"—as a reason for giving the shuttle the name. Although Ford did not publicly mention the campaign, the president, saying he was "partial to the name" Enterprise, directed NASA officials to change the name.[3][10][11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Enterprise
plus some pretty prestigious Enterprise US navel vessels,
most awarded and decorated US ship of WWII
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CV-6)
worlds first nuclear powered Aircraft Carrier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...med_Enterprise
how bout C-57-E
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Originally Posted by The Tatterdemalion King
can you supply a link please?
Um, that's C-57-D, not E.
Not a rant, just a plea for some variety. Besides, the starship Enterprise was explicitly named after CVN-65, the US nuclear aircraft carrier, regardless of the non-US-flagged ships with the same name. Voyager was a welcome change from the usual. The original list of alternate names proposed by Roddenberry, Justman, et al included several non-US names. The series itself has used non-US names from time to time, like Excelsior, Reliant and Bellerophon, but most fannish suggestions fall back on the old, boring US names. Most of these fans are from the US, so given the US educational system all they know is US history, but surely SF fans can take a broader view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easterner
And just because the Enterprise-D was supposedly ceremonially the "flagship" of the Federation does not mean that any other Enterprise was considered such, especially since, as has already been pointed out, none of them carried a flag officer, which is the naval term's traditional meaning.
A move which Roddenberry protested against, since he felt that A) the shuttle should not be named after a military vessel (this was way before he jumped on the "Starfleet is not military" bandwagon) and B) it was not an operational vessel, merely a test-bed for atmospheric flights (which means it was not at all a 'space ship'). In point of fact, OV-101 was not the first Shuttle Orbiter built - that accolade goes to OV-099 Challenger, also built as a test-bed but later brought up to space-worthy standards. The first operational Shuttle Orbiter was OV-102 Columbia which would make it the first Earth-built reuseable space ship. Previous manned space vessels were considered (and still are) space ships, including the Vostok, Voskhod and Soyuz as well as the American Mercury, Gemini, Apollo CSM, and Apollo LM.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaveMan
That's the joke!Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen E Oulton
See my Executive producer and I'll raise you 3 executive producers.
The new show has 2 executive producers: Alex Kurtzman, co-writer of the films Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness, and Heather Kadin. However that wasn't enough so Bryan Fuller a former Trek writer was made one too. Still not satisfied so Wrath of Khan's Nicholas Meyer was made executive producer. But that just isn't thinking big so Rod Roddenberry and Trevor Roth both of
Roddenberry Entertainment were added as....executive producers. That's six EP's.
What is that old saw about too many cooks?
In other news, it's apparently going to be filmed in my 'hood. Maybe I can get a job?
You're in Toronto?
Yeah. It makes sense that Fuller would choose T.O. for the production, given his existing ties here from Hannibal and the current exchange rate.
The New series is to be called Star Trek Discovery
http://www.startrek.com/article/intr...-s-s-discovery
Of all of the unused starship designs they could've used, they used that one?
Well, the MacQuarrieprise is a big fan favourite so maybe they're trying to attract hardcore fans after the largely negative reaction in the fan community over the JJverse. Myself, I rather like the ship, but I don't initially favour the saucer treatment - maybe it'll grow on me - or the angular look of the nacelles. And the brown colour - what are they, Cardassians? Starfleet ships should be cool blue-grey colours in the signature "Starfleet-clean" designs. A-a-and the video is no longer available. It can't be a copyright issue, since the StarTrek.com page linked directly to it...
It looks like more of a brass to me, although frankly that could be the light's colours than a reflective quality of the hull. The saucer's expanded-Oberth look is interesting...
On rewatching the video I like it a lot better than the ship designs from the JJ films, and it technically has the advantage of already having appeared on screen, kind of.
The ship design fits the TNG/DS9-era ship design enough to work for me. Not too fond of the design of the warp section, but I guess I will get used to it if the show is good enough :)
It's apparently the first Warp 8 ship, which would make it pre-2245, as the Constitution was capable of Warp 8. Frankly, the previous treatments on the McQuarrieprise haven't thrilled my, but this one shows promise. Of course, they do stress this is a first pass and details will certainly change.
There's only been ONE version of that design I thought worked, and the one in the video isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen E Oulton
This one I like:
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...in-d31ckar.jpg
Too bad it was never finished.
Hmm. Not too sure about this ship. OK, going for a "halfway point" between the NX-01 and NCC-1701, maybe...
Perhaps I'm getting too set in my ways. Perhaps that old Red Alert klaxon in the back of my head started sounding when I learned that Discovery was to be a prequel of TOS. Perhaps, just perhaps, in 20 years' time, they'll produce a Trek series that... I don't know... might just take place after the events of the Dominion War and Nemesis. Going forward instead of just spinning their wheels in place.:rolleyes:
Then again, we still have to watch Discovery, haven't we?
Bravo mate, and well said. I would like a series based well after the 2370's, maybe even as far ahead as the 29th century and do the last adventures of the Enterprise line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuclear Fridge
latest news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hgzdHGe0A
Does anyone else find that channel's videos a little annoying?
It's also out of date, Fuller stepped down, citing "overscheduling" though I've heard a lot of talk about infighting with the money side of the studio.
I'll be cruiosu to see where this goes, but if CBS has little hope for it....
CBS is sitting pretty. The overseas rights sale alone made their investment back and a little more. In true studio fashion, however, they don't want to spend a penny more than they absolutely must. And they're going to charge every penny they can, which is why US viewers will have to pay extra to get it from All Access (or whatever stupid name they gave it).
https://youtu.be/4dxe_ugmIVM
So, it's apparently in the Kelvin timeline, not set up like the original series. It looks like a nice sci-fi show, but worried about lots of little things: Why do the Klingons looks like 4th Doctor era aliens? A species that detects death? In Star Trek? I think I saw the artificial intelligence character, and wasn't the captain originally a guy?
Well, There has been back and forth between Les Moonves and the production staff over ST: Dis (I'm not using ST:D, that's just insulting) and nothing is ever finalized in early drafts of idea. so lets concern ourselves over what we are seeing:
1. It looks to be a connecting series Between Enterprise and Kelvin Timeline (this is a reasonable guess)
2. The Klingons look like a cross between Jem'Hadar and Movie Era Klingons. Given the ravages of the Augment Virus, I can see some attempts to fix it having issues. The uniforms look odd, but it's not Gold Lamae, at least.
3. The new Discovery design beats the original design they showed IMHO. We are not getting the 50 year old aesthetic back, let's jsut get used to that. The Movies have us a re-imaging of that and we saw how much of a fit people threw over that. The ENT influenced look will likely test better with newer audiences, which is what CBS is aiming for.
4. The Bridge looks like a Star Trek Online Bridge, which I am okay with, with influences from KT.
the alien that sense death does raise eyebrows. I wanna see what they do with this.
I will endeavor to be fair to this series
This is a good look at some of the crap going on behind the scenes that touches on how you might look at the trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5qVwZvjm8&t=95s
Guy I know who did some set design work said they used up all the construction foam in Canada doing vines on the tomb-ship.
I can't say this trailer thrilled me. I will probably see if I can give the series a try, but I'm not very optimistic.
Of course, this looks pretty good. Is it better?
https://youtu.be/Yy9sKeCE8V0
this was in the side recommendations on the YouTube clip of The Orville (which looks good to me, a little hearted spoof of Trek like Galaxy Quest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8mesUEFjas
Should I merge this thread and New Star Trek tv show in 2017 thread? It would seems like that would increase discussion as those that posted their would receive notices about additional information.
Per TVline, Discovery is suppose to premier on Sunday, September 24, at 8:30/7:30c on both CBS and CBS All Access streaming service. The second episode is planned to be available the same night. Episodes will then come out every Sunday only on CBS All Access.
Jonathan Frakes is also reported (by the same TV Line article) going to direct an episode of season 1.
In Canada, it'll air on SPACE on basic cable. Check local listings for time.
It's a show about literal space communists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easterner
I see that the show will be on Netflix internationally, so is that just for the premier episode like in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by Owen E Oulton
Star Trek: Discovery producer explains why the Klingons changed
I don't understand this at all. If you consider TOS & TNG era Klingons are the same design, it was just the TOS version the budget did not allow for prosthetic as the make up look as if the ridge lines were there. Plus, they had the Enterprise episode to explain the change away. So to throw together a new design that looks like a Klingon - Narn smash up that only is done to validate their position that it has changed. It would be another thing to design a minority Klingon group like the pale Andorians, Aenar, but there is suppose to be a different design for each house.Quote:
But the big question online that fans keep asking: Why did producers redesign the look of the Klingons?
Showrunner Aaron Harberts noted that original series showrunner Bryan Fuller was an advocate of updating the look of the Klingons and was involved in the redesign — and that the look of the Klingons has frequently changed over the franchise’s 52 years.
“In the different versions of Trek, the Klingons have never been completely consistent,” Harberts said. “We will introduce several different houses with different styles. Hopefully, fans will become more invested in the characters than worried about the redesign.”