On the subject of Xindi ships, how are you going to come up with FTL travel considering they use the corridors?
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On the subject of Xindi ships, how are you going to come up with FTL travel considering they use the corridors?
Just figure out how fast they go compared to warp drive, like space folding from Dune is like warp 9.9999999.
And the subspace corridors/wormholes don't seem too compatible with Terran impulse drives.
So like the Starships book says... we'll just have to make it up. We just have to figure out how the Xindi energy vortex system works, it seems pretty fast, the superweapon was only ten hours from Earth when it opened it's own vortex. So it may be going warp 10 (OCU). Of course a lot of the Xindi tech is from the "Guardians" so the Time Cops might show up to make sure we don't get the tech early.
Hey... maybe Xindi ships use FTL drives equivalent to MCU warp drives.
But I guess we'll need to watch a lot of re-runs for mentions of how fast they go and such... :D
OK.... my estimate of the Aquatic Battleship is that it's at least 1000m long, more like 1200-1500. Maybe it's just the shock.... but that makes it size 12. Gee, that's a big ship, any other guesses?
Well, looking at that scene where the Enterprise come out of the thing, maybe I'll make it size 9, but there aren't that many components to fit in a size 9 ship in that era. Guess I'll have to improvise, the Primate Xindi did say it was slow, but powerful.... back to the drawingboard.
:D
OK, here's the size 9 version of the Aquatic Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser. I think it'll be a challenge to any one who also just needs a big alien ship... :D
Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser
Origin: Xindi
Class and Type: Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser
Commissioning Date: ?
Lead Engineer: Anton Spletstoser
Hull Data:
Structure: 45
Size/Decks: 9/20
Length: 758m / Height: 198m / Beam: 602m
Complement: ?
Propulsion Data
Warp System: XVD-4, wf 3/4/6 (OCU) (X5, B)
Impulse System: XSD-6, .6c (X5, B)
Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable: No
Cargo Units: 90
Operations System: Class 3 (D)
Life Support: Class 3 (D)
Sensor Systems: Class 2 +2/+1/0/0/0 (C)
Separation System: No
Shuttlebays: 1 forward ventral
Shuttlecraft: up to size 9 worth
Tractor Beams: 4, 1 fv, 1 av, 1 pt, 1 stbd
Transporters: ?
Tactical Data
Beam Weapons: XBW-30 (X5, AA)
Penetration: 4/4/3/0/0
Torpedo Launchers: XPT-3 (X3, AA)
Penetration: 4/4/4/4/0
Deflector Shield: XDF-2A (B)
Protection/Threshold: 13/3
Miscellaneous Data
Maneuver Modifiers: +3 C, -1 H, +4 T
Hey you guys - there should be spoiler warnings on this thread! Not everyone lives in the USA you know ! :P
That said does anyone have any screenshots of this Xindi Ubership? :)
Anton - YES *I* was confused - so your statement is flawed, and I can almost guarantee 100% than almost everyone else on these boards will be - even if they *HATE* Voyager (the series) they will still know it is an intrepid class, because they have the stats in their books! :D
anyway back to your Xindi ship..
That's a pretty meaty ship - looks about right. With a tactical modifyer and a good tactical officer that things going to hit just about everything in the 22nd century :D
The subspace coridoors are a bit of a problem. They technically represent wormhole travel, it's just that they (the producers) give them a clever name to help disguise the fact that a species, (whom enteprise had a ship in their cargo bay and examined!) has technology which supercedes 24th century travel (yet again)
The size of the Xindi Aquatic ship might not be a really big problem. If their technology relies in these coridoors then it's probably little more than a space station with sublight engines on it :D (It is technically as big as DS9 at that size!) They also probably only have a few of them. Because of the nature of the Xindi - they don't leave the expanse much so large static ships (which have the manouverability of a space cow) are more likelly to occur. The Xindi have only a few planets and colonies to protect. As an analogy I would compare the Xindi with medieval China. More advanced and with huge ships which it used to impose imperial might.. But never going very far and disinterested in anything but their own lands. The European ships which came later wre faster, lighter and less technically advanced but they were better suited to their role and cheaper to produce.. of course imperial medieval china didn't send a super bomb to europe :D
Thought it was OK since I wasn't discussing the episode's plot line or the outcome of anything else that happened in the episode, just that this was a very big ship....
I've watched the majority of the Xindi episodes again (thanks to the miracle that is TiVo!) and found that the Xindi do not use torepdoes or other missile weapons. Instead they seem to use either plasma or particle beam weapons.
They also appear to have neither defensive shields nor tractor beam technologies. This means that they either a.) have heavier armor and/or b.) hull polarization systems; for some reason I think that it's the former rather than the latter.
Also - as for the Xindi FTL travel via the subspace vortices - I think that I would represent this as higher-powered warp engines that a.) require additional time to use, b.) have a limited range, and c.) render ships in-transit undetectable in normal space.
I'd further suggest that these portals are generated using the deflector array. They seem incompatible with Starfleet technologies, and thus Enterprise had to be carried along through one rather than simply following. I'd guess that Xindi technology is specifically designed to use this method of FTL travel instead of traditional warp travel, perhaps involving more powerful structural integrity field systems.
On an unrelated note, do Starfleet's (and other races') impulse systems produce exhaust or are they reactionless?
mactavish out.
From the episode where they went underwater in the Xindi shuttle - they said it had almost all of the ships energy routed through it's structural integrity field.
Also some of the ships don't seem to have warp Nacelles so you could be right about the deflector array.
This it the D7 that appeared on the ENT episode, "Unexpected". Like Snake said there's probably 2 to 3 that Klingons own and its pretty huge for a ship in that era.
D-7 (22nd version)
PRODUCTION DATA
Origin: Klingon
Class and type: Battlecruiser
Year launched: 2150
HULL DATA
Structure: 45
Size/decks: 6/
Length/Height/Beam: / ? / ?
Complement:
OPERATION DATA
Atmosphere capable: No
Transporters: 3 personal, emergency, cargo
Cargo units: 60
Shuttlebay:
Shuttlecraft:
Tractor beams: 1
Separation system: None
Cloaking system: None
Sensor system: Class 2 (+2/C)
Operations system: Class 3 (D)
Life support: Class 3 (D)
PROPULSION DATA
Impulse system: K-HEU-2 (.5c/B)
Warp system: STN-3 (5/6/7) (AA)
TACTICAL DATA
Beam Cannons: GDM-2 (x4/AA)
Penetration: 4/4/3/0/0
Plasma Torpedoes: KTY (x1/A)
Penetration: 2/2/2/2/0
Deflector Shields: HPG MK3
Protection/threshold: 11/1
MISCELLANEOUS DATA
Maneuver modifiers: +1 C 0 H +3 T
EDGES AND FLAWS
Prototype Warp System (+2 speed, -2 reliability)
Mac,
In the season finally they do have torpedoes. Degra's ship fired one at the reptiles as a warning I think.
The Reptilian ship also fired 3 torpedos in the last episode. I also believe they were plasma torpedoes, judging by the visuals.
Well you could just take the same liberty that Decipher did with the Cardassians - they just MOSTLY don't use them but you aren't barred from making ships with them on if need be.. They could simply be energy bolts like the pulse phasers on the defiant, though I suspect that the spoken words on the show said fire torpedoes hehe
Yah, I noticed that the Xindi-Reptilians had torpedoes in that last episode, too.
Do they have shields? Tractor beams? I need to know! ;)
mactavish out.
P.S. Nice Klingon ship, Space_Cadet. :)
HULL DATA
. L/B/H: 215.14/142/57.29
TACTICAL DATA
. disruptor: K-GDM4(x3/C)
penetration: 4/3/3/0/0
torpedo launcher: KP-6(x1/C)
penetration: 3/3/3/3/0
deflector shield: Class 2(A)
protection/threshold: 12/2
OPERATIONAL DATA
. sensor system: Class 3 (+3/D)
PROPULSION DATA
. impulse system: K-HEU3 (0.4c)(BB)
warp system: STN-4 (WARP 5/6/7) (C)
This is added to the stats for the D-5, if anyone is using this ship during 2250's-2260's.
This is the Klingon ship that was shown on the episode "Bounty". I'm guessing that its a tranport vessel based on that it doesn't share the design aesthetics of a typical Kligon ship made for tactical purposes.
link for info and pictures
Klingon Armored Transport
PRODUCTION DATA
Origin: Klingon
Class and type: Armored Transport
Year launched: 2140s
HULL DATA
Structure: 40
Size/decks: 5/
Length/Height/Beam: 225m/84m/229m
Complement:
OPERATION DATA
Atmosphere capable: yes
Transporters: 2 personal, emergency, cargo
Cargo units: 120
Shuttlebay: none
Shuttlecraft: none
Tractor beams: 1
Separation system: None
Cloaking system: None
Sensor system: Class 1a (+2/AA)
Operations system: Class 3 (D)
Life support: Class 3 (D)
PROPULSION DATA
Impulse system: K-HEU-1 (.4c/A)
Warp system: STN-2 (2/3/4.5) (BB)
TACTICAL DATA
Beam Cannons: GDM-1 (x2/B)
Penetration: 3/2/2/0/0
Plasma Torpedoes: KTX (x1/A)
Penetration: 1/1/1/1/0
Deflector Shields: HPG MK2
Protection/threshold: 10/0
MISCELLANEOUS DATA
Maneuver modifiers: +1 C 0 H +3 T
EDGES AND FLAWS
Enhanced System (Transporters)