Is that the Sovereign-class Enterprise?
Any of the old Dept. Heads still around (Geordi et al) if they are bet they were spitting nails when he arrived back on board.
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Is that the Sovereign-class Enterprise?
Any of the old Dept. Heads still around (Geordi et al) if they are bet they were spitting nails when he arrived back on board.
And as to Riker...Someone had to ride the desk. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
What happened to ADM. Necheyev? Retire? Re-assigned? Hope she survived the War, liked her to.
All in all, I think that if the players filed an offical complaint with SFHQ on this there would be a JAG reveiw.
Now I think they would find the CO and XO not guilty and little else would come of it. They may remind the CO of a few regulations but in the end I think that the officers/enlisted that filed the complanit would get a good talking to about the chain of command.
Thats just my two cents.
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Capt. D. Harn,
U. S. S. Britannia N.C.C. 31379
Excelsior Class CEX, NTU
[This message has been edited by Damian Harn (edited 05-10-2001).]
Any simulation that forces thinking "outside the box" is good. Ten times a year, for two weeks at a time US Army units rotate thru Fort Irwin, fighting the fSoviet Army.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Ok, I am an advocate of the more you sweat in drill, the less you bleed on the battlefield. I also think that SF needs more officers like Capt. E. Jellico.
Now, it seems to me that the Captain in this case is a "hard as nails" type of officer (see example above)...Good, exactly the type you need in a war. However, I fail to see how the sim he ran has any justification or use in the current political situation (ie. the Dominion War). He had the crew attacked by the Borg...Why? How does that prove how the crew will handle an attack by Jem'Hadar? The two forces use entirly differing "strategies" in their attack. I don't see the connection.
By your logic this is completely pointless as we will never fight the fSovs.
The Borg the give Captain a known enemy so he doesn't have to make one up completely, but still unexpected... I'm sure the players were expecting the Dominion as well. Since you really don't know who the enemy will be (It could be the Stobor. WHo are the Stobor? I dunno, but they'll chew your leg off in 3 seconds.) you practice fighting different known enemies, with twists thrown in. Fighting the Borg forced the characters to think on their feet, plan, utilize individual tactical skills... probably used technical, scientific and medical skills as well.
Fighting the Dominion seems the most obvious, but that's one reason not to do it.
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"I'd rather die standing than live on my knees..."
Shania Twain
Sorry, I guess I was not as clear as should have been. I agree with your point, yes US troops do fight "phantom"sov. armies in exercises, so does the Canadian (at least we did before sensitivity training became more important then combat techniques, but neither here, nor there) army. And, it does work. My arguement in the case listed here in the board is that the Borg, a challenging foe in their right, would not have been the best opfor for this situation, INMHO. Their tactics are just to "alien" and established in the ST universe. INMO, if the Captain wanted to know how his crew would react to the Dominion forces, but didn't want to use Jem'Hadar, one of the other races would have suited better, Tzenkethi, Cardies or Romulan. All basically unknow factors to most of the new breed of Starfleet Officers, only the senior staff would have been old enough to have faced these races in the past the Jr Officers would have been too young.
And I admit that the Borg wasn't the best choice perhaps... but that (IMHO) is a minor quibble compared to the other issues.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Sorry, I guess I was not as clear as should have been. I agree with your point, yes US troops do fight "phantom"sov. armies in exercises, so does the Canadian (at least we did before sensitivity training became more important then combat techniques, but neither here, nor there) army. And, it does work. My arguement in the case listed here in the board is that the Borg, a challenging foe in their right, would not have been the best opfor for this situation, INMHO. Their tactics are just to "alien" and established in the ST universe. INMO, if the Captain wanted to know how his crew would react to the Dominion forces, but didn't want to use Jem'Hadar, one of the other races would have suited better, Tzenkethi, Cardies or Romulan. All basically unknow factors to most of the new breed of Starfleet Officers, only the senior staff would have been old enough to have faced these races in the past the Jr Officers would have been too young.
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"I'd rather die standing than live on my knees..."
Shania Twain
Don't get me wrong, I think the whole idea is a neat story arc. Wish I would come up with ideas like that for my games. I just don't agree with the choice of the opfor in the sim, that's all.
The result of this adventure is as follows. A hearing will be heard and each player will be assigned a JAG officer to defend their position. The players can then do the hearing by themselves and I will decide what happens on the basis of what I think is right and who argues the best.
I will tell you the results in the coming weeks.
The hearing was held last night and here were the findings.
The player in question was let off and the methods used for the training exercise is being passed onto the review board.
NOTE: The person playing the defending laywer played so well and did such a good job that any other result was not possible.
Pacifism is a right that Federation Citizens as a whole enjoy. The precedent for this is from Kevin Uxbridge from the TNG episode "The Survivors" (Kevin: "I refused to fight." Picard: "Well, that is your right.") I doubt that applies to Starfleet officers, though, who have to follow orders. I doubt that Starfleet would draft conscienceous objectors to the Dominion War, though - that seems to conflict with that 'right to pacifism'. My ruling would be that if a Starfleet Officer refused to fight in the Dominion War, they are placed in a different duty relating to the war such as a desk job.Quote:
Roy Cowan wrote: Imagine if they had to let everyone who didn't like the idea of fighting stay out of combat during the Dominion War. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/frown.gif)
On topic: I find the Captain and XO fully justified in their actions, from everything I've read thus far.
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