i need scale

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Originally posted by kong
its a better approach to fantasy gaming, however it isnt inherently especially tolkienesque. haracters for instance cannot start as rangers or even captains; besides the question of non-istari 'magicians' isnt very tolkienesque.

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Why can't a character start as a ranger or captain?

The rules don't prohibit beginning characters from having some advancements before playing, do they?

Shouldn't the Narrator be the one to decide how powerful they want their player-characters to be?

The question of non-Istari magicians has been discussed ad nauseum on the Decipher boards. Doesn't it just boil down to a matter of taste? If you don't like the notion, then don't let your players create magician characters.

However, I suspect that you're not actually interested in Narrating the LotR RPG, but rather just complaining about it and whatever flaws it might have.

Characters can absolutely start out as rangers or captains.

There is no rule prohibiting that characters must start out advancement-less. The rules for rangers and captains insure that such characters have a certain level of competence.


The Star Trek rules have the same mechanism, whereby a higher ranking character will have advancements.

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Originally posted by Jason Durall
Why can't a character start as a ranger or captain?

The rules don't prohibit beginning characters from having some advancements before playing, do they?

Shouldn't the Narrator be the one to decide how powerful they want their player-characters to be?

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I should note that I was asking these questions back at kong in answer to his statements.

>The rules don't prohibit beginning characters from having some advancements before playing, do they?

i never said they did.

what i said was that the elite orders, by default, are not for starting characters.

>The question of non-Istari magicians has been discussed ad nauseum on the Decipher boards. Doesn't it just boil down to a matter of taste? If you don't like the notion, then don't let your players create magician characters.

well yes and no. yes if you want to turn tolkiens world into something other than what it is, for whatever reason; and no its not a matter of taste because tolkiens 'rules', if you like, are already laid down.

if you want to change the rules then do so aware that yo are creating a different world.

>However, I suspect that you're not actually interested in Narrating the LotR RPG, but rather just complaining about it and whatever flaws it might have.

you can suspect what youd like; given that im running it right now youd be wrong, again.

>The Star Trek rules have the same mechanism, whereby a higher ranking character will have advancements.

which is a silly rule rreally considering these sorts of characters are the kind of characters players want to play.

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Originally posted by kong
you can suspect what youd like; given that im running it right now youd be wrong, again.

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So, are you allowing magician characters?

And what else have I been wrong about?

Kong, higher ranking characters have more advancements which means they are more experienced then lower ranking characters. I am not talking just rank as in Ensign, Lieutenant JG, Lt, etc... I am talking in stature. The leader of the US armed forces has more experience with tactical manuevers then a private has. Would you want a private running the US army?

(This is not a political thread I just took a simple everyday example and put it into easy terms. Thank You :) )

I believe this thread has outlived its usefulness. It has completely diverged from its original topic and, despite the warning given a few days back by Don, at least one poster continues to project the same argumentative attitude as before.

So, without any further adieu, this thread is closed.