I was gonna say Snake did these quit a bit before all the "new" info was revealed, but Snake beat me too it. :)
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I was gonna say Snake did these quit a bit before all the "new" info was revealed, but Snake beat me too it. :)
Intrepid-class cruiser
Origin: Earth (Terra, Sol System)
Class and Type: Intrepid-class cruiser
Commissioning Date: 2147 (refit 2153)
Lead Engineer: Anton Spletstoser
Hull Data:
Structure: 25
Size/Decks: 5/6
Length: 198m / Height: 25m / Beam: 150m
Complement: 75 (8 officers, 67 enlisted)
Propulsion Data
Warp System: WE-2c, Warp 1/1.4/1.8 (A)
Impulse System: SBC, .5c (B)
Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable: No
Cargo Units: 50
Operations System: Class 2 (C)
Life Support: Class 3 (D)
Sensor Systems: Class 2 +2/+1/0/0/0 (C)
Separation System: No
Shuttlebays: 1 aft ventral (two shuttlepods are kept on ready standby, 2 more are “mothballed”)
Tractor Beams: 1 Grappler system in aft ventral turret, can only be used at point blank range and only on vessels of size 4 or less.
Transporters: No
Tactical Data
Plasma Weapons: TDM-36.2 (X2, B)
Penetration: 3/2/2/0/0
Torpedo Launchers: FST MK-III Spatial Torpedoes (X2, B)
Penetration: 2/2/2/0/0
Deflector Shield: HPG MK-2 Hull Polarization Generator System (B)
Protection/Threshold: 10/1
Miscellaneous Data
Maneuver Modifiers: +1 C, +1 H, +2 T
Traits:
Background:
The Intrepid-class was the state of the art when it was commissioned to supplement the Cochrane-class light cruisers. It was the most capable ship in the fleet until the construction of the NX-class Enterprise, in fact, most of the systems initially installed on the NX-01 were tested on the Intrepid. It was the flagship of the fledgling Earth Starfleet. The other ships of this class helped to secure and maintain communication with the first Earth colonies and explored the closest star systems. It was also able to run escort for freighters, but only if it was closeby. But it's main drawback was it's warpdrive. It simply was not fast enough to respond to attacks on freighters or colonies at warp 1.8. Some ships have been refitted with the new WE-4 warpdrive. With a top speed of warp 3 and an emergency speed of warp 4, this new drive will soon replace the older WE-2c's and thanks to advancements in warp engine design, will occupy little more than the same internal volume. With the Xindi attack on Earth, the modernization program is going into overdrive. The refit will include the new warpdrive, phase cannon, and photonic torpedoes. Other technologies will include strengthened hull plating and new transporter systems for personnel and cargo.
Notable Vessels: UES Intrepid, assisted the NX-class Enterprise when it came under attack by Klingon cruiser; UES Atlantis, patrolled trade routes and fought Nausicaan pirates; UES Endeavor, exploring areas previously charted by NX-01 Enterprise, next destination is Cheron system.
Daedalus-class
Origin: Earth (Terra, Sol System)
Class and Type: Daedalus-class light cruiser
Commissioning Date: 2160 (refit 2183)
Lead Engineer: Anton Spletstoser
Hull Data:
Structure: 20
Size/Decks: 4/8
Length: 97m / Height: 35m / Beam: 48m
Complement: 165 (14 officers, 151 enlisted)
Propulsion Data
Warp System: WE-6, wf 3/4.5/6 (B)
Impulse System: SBD, .6c (B)
Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable: No
Cargo Units: 40
Operations System: Class 2 (C)
Life Support: Class 3 (D)
Sensor Systems: Class 2 +2/+1/0/0/0 (C)
Separation System: No
Shuttlebays: 1 aft ventral (four shuttlepods)
Tractor Beams: 1 AV
Transporters: 1 Standard, 1 Cargo
Tactical Data
Laser Cannon: LCS-42c (X2, B)
Penetration: 2/2/0/0/0
Atomic Missile Launchers: SBM 64/16 (B)
Penetration: 3/3/0/0/0
Hull Polarization: HPG MK-3 Hull Polarization Generator System (C)
Protection/Threshold: 11/1
Tactical Data (refit)
Phase Cannon: PC-25 (X3, B)
Penetration: 3/3/3/0/0
Photon Torpedo Launchers: Mk 2 (X2, B)
Penetration: 3/3/3/3/0
Deflector Shield: PFF 1 (A)
Protection/Threshold: 12/1
Maneuver Modifiers:
+1 C, +1 H, +1 T
NX-class cruiser
Origin: Earth (Terra, Sol System)
Class and Type: NX-class cruiser
Commissioning Date: 2151 (refit 2153)
Lead Engineer: Anton Spletstoser
Hull Data:
Structure: 25
Size/Decks: 5/7
Length: 225m / Height: 29m / Beam: 136m
Complement: 82 (8 officers, 74 enlisted)
Propulsion Data
Warp System: WE-5, Warp 2/4/5 (B)
Impulse System: Type 2a, .5c (B)
Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable: No
Cargo Units: 50
Operations System: Class 2 (C)
Life Support: Class 3 (D)
Sensor Systems: Class 2 +2/+1/0/0/0 (C)
Separation System: No
Shuttlebays: 1 aft ventral (two shuttlepods are kept on ready standby, 2 more are “mothballed”)
Tractor Beams: 1 Grappler system in aft ventral turret, can only be used at point blank range and only on vessels of size 4 or less.
Transporters: 1 personnel (this is one pad)
Tactical Data
Phasers: Type I Phase Cannon (X3, B)
Penetration: 3/3/2/0/0
Torpedo Launchers: Type I Photonic Torpedoes (X3, B)
Photon Penetration: 3/3/3/3/0
Deflector Shield: Class I Hull Polarization System
Protection/Threshold: 12/1
Miscellaneous Data
Maneuver Modifiers: +1 C, +2 H, +1 T
Traits: Design Defect (Transporters, +5 TN to all System Operation (Transporter) tests)
Enhanced System (Beam, +2)
Background:
The NX-class was meant to usher in a new era of exploration for the Earth Starfleet. The NX-class cruisers are the state of the art in Terran starship design. She incorporates the WE-5 warp engine, capable of speeds up to 125 times the speed of light. But the NX-01 Enterprise has found that the galaxy is not a friendly place. Shortly after leaving spacedock, the Enterprise Armory and Engineering departments had to implement the phase cannon upgrade in the field (which increased firepower at point blank and close range). So far, first contact has been made with several species, not all of them friendly. Enterprise has run into Klingon marauders, Nausicaan pirates, unknown alien raiders, Suliban pod ships, and Tholian cruisers. There was even a recent encounter with a Tellarite bounty hunter in which said bounty hunter captured Captain Archer of the Enterprise and attempted to turn him over to the Klingons. The NX-02 is set to be completed in several weeks. Since the Xindi attack, Starfleet is re-assessing it’s defense plans for Earth. The older Columbia-class cruisers are to come in for refits to the new weapons and propulsion systems. Most can install phase cannon in the field, but photonic torpedoes and WE-5 engines will require at least two weeks in spacedock. At the moment Starfleet consists of only 20 odd ships, half of which are acting as supply ships trying to support the colonization effort. The others are patrolling the stellar trade routes and Sol System as best they can. Plans are also being drawn up for a smaller “no-frills” starship. This Daedalus-class of cruisers will lack some of the advancements seen in the NX-class, but will include other advancements such as a new system of pumping more energy into a laser cannon, this development proves to be more powerful and less expensive to produce than the current phase cannon. They should only be 2/3 the cost of an NX-class cruiser and have the same offensive capabilities, but their science and comm systems will suffer. This class is to begin construction and enter service by 2160.
Notes:
This is meant to reflect the NX-class after the Xindi attack on Earth. The ship has been refit with new photonic torpedoes, which have been in development with the phase cannon. They have increased penetration over the older spatial torpedoes and longer range (spatial torpedoes could only fire out to medium range with a penetration of 2/2/2/0/0: Reed made a remark about how much more range the new torpedoes have than the old spatial types in "The Expanse"). I gave the transporter the design defect to reflect that it is a very new technology. It has trouble in anything other than “ideal” conditions. During a storm, a crewman was beamed up and had debris from his surroundings merged with his body. Until an improved matter discriminator is designed and field-tested, there is a 50% chance that this will happen under similar circumstances.
Uhm anton, should there be 2 Intrepid classes? perhaps you should rename it, or else it's a relic from the future, a present from the TCW people :D
Do you have any iullustrations to support it? I know what the other two look like but I;m not familiar with that one (with the exception of Voyager :D)
Well, we've only seen the one Intrepid, pics are at http://www.neutralzone.de/database/indexfra.htm
Of course with only seeing the ship twice in the series, I'm trying to come up with what would be state-of-the-art just prior to the NX-Class.
Decided to call it Intrepid-class instead of Unnamed-class.
:D
I know that the Daedalus-class was created many years ago, but - given the events of Enterprise - don't you think that maybe this ship, built a decade after the NX-01, might have phase cannons and photonic torpedoes rather than nuclear missiles and lasers? I understand that this ship is based on canonical information, but come on... would Starfleet engineers really design such a retro vessel?
I do like the concept of the Daedalus-class, but I think that it is hideous and would almost certainly be more advanced than Enterprise rather than less.
So anyway, my Daedalus-class has the aforementioned weapons upgrades as well as a slightly different hull design/configuration. I'd use the same model, but make it more like what we've seen in Enterprise: shiny, sleek, futuristic.
Don't get me wrong... I really like what you guys have come up with. It's just that - as I've said in other threads - I'm an aesthetic snob; I hate how TOS (and earlier) ship designs looked when they came out in the 60s. I say update them! Update them to... 22nd century standards! ;)
mactavish out.
I figure that without the shipyards and replicator technology to build ships quickly and cheaply, Earth will need a cheap, but effective, ship to fight the Earth-Romulan war. The few NX-class ships and the "Intrepid-type" ships would lead task forces, while the Daedalus forms the backbone of the fleet. As soon as they can afford to, they'll upgrade the Daedalus with phase cannon, phasers, and photons. :D
And I've seen some pretty renders of the Daedalus on the net.
To use a military anology, the NX-class is an M-16A2, the Daedalus is an AK-47, may not be pretty, but it's cheaper and gets the job done.
Ah!... but you assume that B&B will actually respect that canon part. I have a feeling that the Earth-Romulan War will be conveniently ignored :(Quote:
Earth will need a cheap, but effective, ship to fight the Earth-Romulan war.
I haven't had time to read all that you posted thoroughly (and frankly I'm having a hard time remembering what stat means what and all) but it looks good.
I have to assume that or I'd be wasting my time, but that's really beside the point, I like designing starships... :D
So until it becomes officially "not canon", we can do as we please. So I don't really care what B&B do, if I want to make something canon in my little corner of the Star Trek universe, it's canon.
And Tobian, if you want the hi-tech Daedalus, just look it up in the Starfleet Operations Manual. And I don't think two Intrepid-classes two hundred years or so apart will confuse too many people... :D
Antonsb214, "you never cease to amaze me" - McCoy. :)
here's a cool Deadalus class site
http://www.daedalusclass.com/
As for Xindi design philosophy seems to be...
Aquatic, big guns and slow engines
Insectoid, small and annoying with big guns, but light shields
Reptillian, fast and lots of guns
Arboreal and Primate, seem to be about the same, balanced ships.
On the subject of Xindi ships, how are you going to come up with FTL travel considering they use the corridors?
Just figure out how fast they go compared to warp drive, like space folding from Dune is like warp 9.9999999.
And the subspace corridors/wormholes don't seem too compatible with Terran impulse drives.
So like the Starships book says... we'll just have to make it up. We just have to figure out how the Xindi energy vortex system works, it seems pretty fast, the superweapon was only ten hours from Earth when it opened it's own vortex. So it may be going warp 10 (OCU). Of course a lot of the Xindi tech is from the "Guardians" so the Time Cops might show up to make sure we don't get the tech early.
Hey... maybe Xindi ships use FTL drives equivalent to MCU warp drives.
But I guess we'll need to watch a lot of re-runs for mentions of how fast they go and such... :D
OK.... my estimate of the Aquatic Battleship is that it's at least 1000m long, more like 1200-1500. Maybe it's just the shock.... but that makes it size 12. Gee, that's a big ship, any other guesses?
Well, looking at that scene where the Enterprise come out of the thing, maybe I'll make it size 9, but there aren't that many components to fit in a size 9 ship in that era. Guess I'll have to improvise, the Primate Xindi did say it was slow, but powerful.... back to the drawingboard.
:D
OK, here's the size 9 version of the Aquatic Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser. I think it'll be a challenge to any one who also just needs a big alien ship... :D
Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser
Origin: Xindi
Class and Type: Leviathan-class Heavy Battlecruiser
Commissioning Date: ?
Lead Engineer: Anton Spletstoser
Hull Data:
Structure: 45
Size/Decks: 9/20
Length: 758m / Height: 198m / Beam: 602m
Complement: ?
Propulsion Data
Warp System: XVD-4, wf 3/4/6 (OCU) (X5, B)
Impulse System: XSD-6, .6c (X5, B)
Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable: No
Cargo Units: 90
Operations System: Class 3 (D)
Life Support: Class 3 (D)
Sensor Systems: Class 2 +2/+1/0/0/0 (C)
Separation System: No
Shuttlebays: 1 forward ventral
Shuttlecraft: up to size 9 worth
Tractor Beams: 4, 1 fv, 1 av, 1 pt, 1 stbd
Transporters: ?
Tactical Data
Beam Weapons: XBW-30 (X5, AA)
Penetration: 4/4/3/0/0
Torpedo Launchers: XPT-3 (X3, AA)
Penetration: 4/4/4/4/0
Deflector Shield: XDF-2A (B)
Protection/Threshold: 13/3
Miscellaneous Data
Maneuver Modifiers: +3 C, -1 H, +4 T
Hey you guys - there should be spoiler warnings on this thread! Not everyone lives in the USA you know ! :P
That said does anyone have any screenshots of this Xindi Ubership? :)
Anton - YES *I* was confused - so your statement is flawed, and I can almost guarantee 100% than almost everyone else on these boards will be - even if they *HATE* Voyager (the series) they will still know it is an intrepid class, because they have the stats in their books! :D
anyway back to your Xindi ship..
That's a pretty meaty ship - looks about right. With a tactical modifyer and a good tactical officer that things going to hit just about everything in the 22nd century :D
The subspace coridoors are a bit of a problem. They technically represent wormhole travel, it's just that they (the producers) give them a clever name to help disguise the fact that a species, (whom enteprise had a ship in their cargo bay and examined!) has technology which supercedes 24th century travel (yet again)
The size of the Xindi Aquatic ship might not be a really big problem. If their technology relies in these coridoors then it's probably little more than a space station with sublight engines on it :D (It is technically as big as DS9 at that size!) They also probably only have a few of them. Because of the nature of the Xindi - they don't leave the expanse much so large static ships (which have the manouverability of a space cow) are more likelly to occur. The Xindi have only a few planets and colonies to protect. As an analogy I would compare the Xindi with medieval China. More advanced and with huge ships which it used to impose imperial might.. But never going very far and disinterested in anything but their own lands. The European ships which came later wre faster, lighter and less technically advanced but they were better suited to their role and cheaper to produce.. of course imperial medieval china didn't send a super bomb to europe :D