Actually yes, it would, but I don't have my books or notes here to see what it would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyg
Oh, and an upgrade would add 3 to each load category. Sherpa x2 can lift very heavy things.
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Actually yes, it would, but I don't have my books or notes here to see what it would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyg
Oh, and an upgrade would add 3 to each load category. Sherpa x2 can lift very heavy things.
Cool. Thanks. Carry capcity doesn't usualy come up, but I've got one or two players who might try carrying everything from a runabout to the kitchen sink if they an edge is supposed to allow it.
"The good news is that the phaser hit was blocked by the kichen sink strapped on your back; the bad news is that the sink's containent field has been breeched!" :D
Kitchen sinks are cool, but a runabout? I think not. :) However, having some strong someone with Sherpa or Sherpa x2 can really come in handy when that big old chunk of metal that's fallen from the ceiling happens to be lying on your leg and the compartment is on fire, or some such disaster.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I am working up some NPC crewmembers for a new campaign, and try to give ach one a trait or two to perosnalize them. One is going to be a Kasheetan with a high Strength and an upgraded Sherp edge. I figure he will be useful lugging around pattern enchancers and stuff. Maybe throw a wounded character, with pack, over his shoulder.
Okay, Tony, I took a look at things and Liquidator Queeg is right. Normally, a character's normal load is up to x5 STR, a heavy load is from x6 to x10 STR, and a very heavy load is from X11 to x15 STR.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGoodman13
With Sherpa, that becomes x8 STR for a normal load, x9 to x13 STR for a heavy load, and x14 to x18 STR for a very heavy load. You'd have to use Trait Upgrade to do it, but if you upgraded to Sherpa x2, those numbers would be x11 STR, x12 to x16 STR, and x17 to x21 STR respectively.
This will be coming up in the errata for the PG, which will be ready shortly. However, since we were talking about it, I thought I'd post it here just for the heck of it. :)
Page 137, Sherpa edge. The wording of the Effects section is unclear. Change it to read as follows: "For the purposes of calculating encumbrance and carrying capacity, your normal load is up to Strength x 8 or less in kg. Your heavy load is Strength x (9 to 13) kg and your very heavy load is Strength x (14 to 18) kg. You can lift up to Strength x 23 kg (see page 79)."
Okay, the thread is closed for Player's Guide problems, since I've just about got the errata for that book finished, and a good chunk of FAQs and rules clarifications dealt with. It's still open for problems associated with the Narrator's Guide, however, since that won't be dealt with for a little while to come.
Thanks for playing, guys. It's because of things I've learned in this thread that I've been able to come up with what I think is a pretty comprehensive set of errata and rules fixes. Let's keep up the good work for the NG.
Here is a NG problem.
When you push the engines to go past sustainable speed the Engineer makes a skill test. Okay.
Now once, you are at these speeds a reliability test is required each hour to keep at maximum speed or the ship drops out of warp and must be repaired. The realibilty test is a 2d6 roll plus the realiaibly mod of the engines against a TN10+Speed. THis means that most ships can't maintain max speed for more than a hour or so. For example a TOS-era Constiution class going at Warp 8 with Reliabilty D (+6) engines would need to roll a 12 on 2d6 to contiune at max warp after one hour. This is typical of the TN's for most ships. About the best is something with the LF-47 engine (TN18, with +8 relaibility means a 1in 6 chance of pushing the engines for more than an hour). This doesn't make emergency speed very useful (can't get far in an hour, even at warp 9.9), plus it doesn't fit in well with sources that say that most ships can mintain max warp for 12 hours or so.
How do we calculate the TN for TNG er ships with wf9+ max speeds. For example a Galaxy-class starship has a max of 9.6, is this a TN 19 (10+wf9), 20 (10+wf9, +1), or 25 (10+wf9+6)? (with a +6 relaibilty mod the ship needs to roll a 12+ just to make the 19!).
Maybe this should be a engineering skill test (modifed by relaibilty) rather than a straight reliaiblty test?
Maybe the TN should be a bit lower. How about starting at the ship's warp speed and increasing 1 per hour?
Maybe the TN shouldn't be set by the actual warp speed at all, by by how hard you push the engines. My theroy being that running a PB-4 engine (wf 3/4/6 reliability B) at Warp 6 is probably pushing that engine as much if not more than pushing a PB-32 engine (wf6/7/8 Reliaiblity D) at Warp 8.
Maybe a ship can travel a max warp for 2xrealiblty mod in hours before it needs to make the relaibilty test?
Just a note to let you folks know that we listen to you. :) Wanted to let you guys know what has (and hasn't) been addressed in the errata/FAQs from these threads (companions on both Decipher and trek-rpg.net forums). As I said earlier, with luck I should be able to post the errata on Friday. Some items weren't addressed in the errata, mostly because of self-imposed time limits and the fact that some of the fixes needed some extensive work. Some things will be addressed in separate "optional rules" articles on the website in the (hopefully) near future. Also, there are other things dealt with in the errata that weren't mentioned in these threads, but you're just going to have to wait on those. :)
Items Addressed in Errata
In no particular order:
- Edges/flaws/skills with incorrect names
- Stacking of professional abilities
- Attribute modifier table
- Psionics
Awaiting Separate "Optional Rules" Articles
Likewise in no specific order
- System Operations skill
- Mixed species
- Knowledge skill group
- Combat options (might tackle in NG work when it rolls around)
There are, of course, a lot of typo fixes and that sort of thing. I'll let you know when I post the actual errata.
Because I'm a stubborn bone-headed fool, I'm working on the errata for the Narrator's Guide. I am therefore bringing this topic back from the dead to see if anybody thinks anything in particular therein is in need of repair. I'll go in and review it all soon, but in the meantime if there's something on your mind, this is the place to bring it up.
Getting back to this for a moment...anybody have any ideas or preferences on how to implement this for Star Trek RPG? I've got a couple, but I'm curious about other input.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
Just keeping this fresh in my mind, since I'm not in that portion of the book at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyg
Hey, Doug? What say you to this?
I like the idea of making it a Propulsion Engineering (Warp) test, modified by reliability. In that case, the TN should be more static, I would think. How about TN 10 +2 for each test after the first (12 on 2nd, 14 on 3rd, etc.)?Quote:
Originally Posted by PGoodman13
I always made it a propusion (warp) test in my games modified by reliability. However, altering the TN to be 10+wf (+1/.1 over warp 9) and adding +1/hour sounds like a good idea to me.
Ok my players love continious setting its +2 to hit for 2 extra energy but we cant wrap my head around pulse. +1 damage for 2 extra energy sucks. any house rules on this I was thinking +2 damage per die or soemthing
Hi there. Ineti and I, who are friends and have gamed together for many years now, set out to develop a mook rule for CODA Trek. Below is a rough draft of what we came up with. This a bit long, and I never really revised it so it could have some holes, but maybe you can take this and polish it for your own purposes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGoodman13
STAR TREK ROLEPLAYING: NEW CHARACTER DAMAGE SYSTEM
1 Keypoints
• Every character now has a Health rating that takes the place of the prior Health attribute and wound levels system. The new Health rating is a number, generally from 1 to 10, that measures how many damage markers a character can absorb before becoming incapacitated.
• Damage markers are colored markers given to a player when her character takes damage. Yellow markers represent stun damage, while red markers indicate wound damage. For each marker on a character, that character suffers a penalty. Each stun marker inflicts a –1 damage penalty to the character, while each wound marker inflicts a damage penalty of –2. Damage penalties affect all die rolls made by the injured character, though there might be exceptions at the Narrator’s discretion.
• Most player characters will begin with a Health rating of 6. Exceptionally tough characters might have a 7, while unusually frail or weak characters might have a 5 instead. This also applies to some non-player characters, such as an important NPC ally, or a particularly formidable or important enemy.
• Many other characters, such as petty thugs, guards, common soldiers, civilians and other less-important folk will generally have a very low health rating. These characters, called “mooks”, will usually have a health rating between 1 and 3.
• When you strike an enemy with a weapon, you’ll usually inflict a single damage marker on her. If you use a nonlethal weapon like a fist, a chair, or a phaser set to stun, you’ll inflict a yellow ‘stun” marker. Oftentimes, this is enough to knock out a mook. If you attack with a bladed weapon like a sword of Bat’leth, or a phaser set to kill, you’ll inflict a red wound marker instead. The same applies when the bad guys attack you, so watch out!
• Depending on the weapon being used against you, you might have to make a reaction test when you take damage. This is usually to avoid some additional negative effect, like being knocked unconscious or paralyzed. Sometimes, if you’re wearing armor, hiding behind cover or using a personal force field, you can make a reaction test to avoid taking any damage at all where you might norrnally have otherwise. For example, you might make a Quickness reaction to dive out of the way of an explosion, or a Stamina reaction test to avoid taking damage form extreme cold. This is pretty much the same as the current CODA system.
2 Player Character Health
Player characters will have a health attribute of 6 to start with. This can be raised to 7 if either of the following are true:
• The character is a Klingon, Nausican, or other particularly hardy alien race
• The character has a Vitality attribute of 16 or higher
The player’s starting health might be set to 5 if:
• The character’s Vitality attribute is lower than 8
• The character is a member of a particularly frail alien race
All of this is at the discretion of the Narrator
3 Weapon Damage
Dice-based weapon damage is not used in this new damage system. Rather, a weapon does damage based on its relative power, which in turn is modified by the character’s strength (for armed and unarmed combat), and whether or not the attacker scored an extraordinary success on the attack roll. As a reminder, an extraordinary success is scored when the attacker’s total is 11+ higher than the Defense value of the target.
Most attacks will inflict a base damage of one marker. Attacks that fall under this category include:
• A phaser set to stun
• A punch
• Getting hit over the back of the head with a chair
• Being slashed with a knife or one-handed sword
Some attacks, however, might inflict two markers as a base damage.
• A punch from a burly Nausican
• Being caught in the blast of a plasma grenade
• Being slashed with a bat’leth
There are a few simple modifiers that might add additional markers:
• +1 marker if the attack roll scored an extraordinary success
• +1 to armed and unarmed attacks by characters with a Strength of 16+
4 Hazard Damage
Hazard damage is the terms used to describe the damage a character suffers that isn’t caused directly by an attack from an enemy. Examples of hazard damage include exposure to extreme cold, falling from a great height, illness caused by a virus, or poison.
In many cases, hazards damage the character in ways other than stuns and wounds. For example, some diseases and toxins damage the character’s attributes directly. The rules for Hazards can be found in chapter 13 of the Narrator’s Guide, beginning on page 222. Just about all of these rules can still be used as written, with one small exception. When a hazard does wound damage to a character, rather than use the damage formula given, simply give that character a number of damage markers equal to the number of dice in the damage formula.
For example, Paranisti Measles has a listed effect of “1D6 wounds per four hours until death”. This would instead be treated as “1 damage marker per hour until death”. Polaron radiation’s effect mentions that it causes 2D6 wounds. This would be changed to 2 damage markers.
So, which markers to use? Usually, stun markers will suffice, but wound markers may instead be given at the Narrator’s discretion. Wound markers should typically be used if the character has taken damage from fire, explosions and falling. Diseases, toxins, radiation and asphyxiation should typically inflict stun damage markers instead.
Note that damage markers caused by hazards are not always healed in the same fashion as normal damage markers. The healing rules state that a character may remove a stun marker every hour, but this assumes the stun marker was the result of a normal attack. Specialized treatments, cures or antidotes are usually the only way to cure the effects of a disease, toxin or radiation. Damage from falling, fire, asphyxiation and explosions can be healed as normal, if the Narrator approves.
5 Incapacitation and Death
Incapacitation is what happens when a character has already got the maximum number of damage markers (ie, has as many damage markers as her health attribute), and she receives another one. The character is rendered unconscious and helpless, and is in need of medical attention. The character will remain in this state until some form of healing brings her back to her within her limit of damage markers (which is equal to her Health attribute).
An incapacitated character can of course continue to take damage. If an incapacitated character recieves three more damage markers, that character is considered to be at death’s door, and must pass a TN10 Stamina reaction test every round to avoid dying. Ignore damage modifiers for this test – the character’s will to live is unaffected by injury. If the character receives medical attention of any kind, she will stabilize and no longer be in danger of death. Such a character will take a long time to heal, and might suffer permanent affects from her injuries.
6 Healing
Healing comes in many forms, and different kinds of injuries heal at different speeds.
6.1 Healing from Stun Damage
Stun damage heals quickly. A character may remove one Stun marker every hour. This represents that character shrugging off the effects of the stun damage.
A character may remove a single Stun marker from a comrade with a full-round action, assuming a medkit or sickbay are at hand. This is a TN12 test that can be made using either the First Aid skill, or the Medicine skill. Standard modifiers for physical tests apply.
6.2 Healing from Wound Damage
Wounds are more serious injuries than stuns, and take longer to heal. Wounds will heal naturally, but it is a slow process. For every full day of rest the character gets, she may roll a Stamina reaction test at TN15. Success means that healing has occurred, and one Wound marker may be removed. The injured player may be aided in this test if she, or a comrade, first makes a First Aid (or Medicine) test at TN12. Success in the First Aid test reduces the TN of the Stamina reaction test from 15 to 12. This is the most the First Aid skill can do to help a character with Wound damage.
If the injured character is fortunate enough to find herself in the care of a medical professional, the outlook improves. A character with the Medicine skill may spend one hour of time diagnosing the wound, and may then attempt to heal it. To do so, the medical professional must pass a medicine test at TN15. This test assumes that the doctor is armed with the proper tools, such as a medkit or sickbay. If no such facilities or tolls are available, the doctor cannot properly diagnore and heal the wound, and can only help with the natural healing process as described in the above paragraph.
All rules for Combined tests apply to healing rolls, and in fact, represent one of the most common uses of the rule. Doctors often rely heavily on medical support personnel, and with good reason. Similarly, an injured character being actively looked after by another will usually stand a better chance of healing quickly and successfully.
I haven't read the rest in great detail yet, though I think most of it looks good. I'll read further. In the meantime, I had a suggestion to alter the following:
I think it would make a little more sense (and be less of a system change) if we simpy used a character's Stamina score to be their red marker pool and their Willpower to be their yellow marker pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rannd
That way, the character's race already accounts for higher or lower stats (Klingons and other tough species generally have higher Staminas than others). This also allows for some versatility in character builds.
FWIW, I don't think I remember anyone in Coda ever having an attribute higher than 16.
While a starting character with zero advancements would have low Stamina and Willpower, smart character builds, and good picks of edges and the like should make the difference. Also, as a character gains advancements, reactions are inexpensive to raise up. An experienced character, like Picard or Sisko or the like, would probably have Stamina and Willpower scores up in the 6 - 7 -8 range, making them pretty hardy folk.
Just some ideas.