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02-20-2006, 08:08 PM
BouncyCaitian

GAH! That is just Fugly!
02-20-2006, 11:27 PM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Keith Class Scout

i don't... i don't... get it. It's just bizarre.
02-21-2006, 08:39 PM
First of Two

Yeah, that's one OOGLY ship.
02-22-2006, 08:27 AM
Captain Blake

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Paine Class Heavy Frigate

didn't want to step on shoes or anything... doh!

I did this one largely to play with my new Excelsior pieces (and the Paine is described as from that era, originally). One of FASA's weaker efforts, even for the TNG officer's manual!

Anyways, a bunch of new lines, rescaled to the Excelsior for everything (basing it on the engines). Looks more like a believable ship now, though I think the warp engines look silly like that.. if they were angled DOWN instead, maybe...

It's a nice job on a Ship that sucks. I've always thought that this would look better with the nacelles pointing down (so they end up below the saucer), rather than up.

Alex
02-22-2006, 08:29 AM
Captain Blake

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Keith Class Scout

Usual problems, and one of FASA's typical 'start at the saucer and drawn random crap in a diagonally down direction, then throw on a warp engine' ... This ship is remarkably unimpressive all around. Yuck.

Ew. Somebody stepped in something. The top view doesn't look too bad, but the side view looks horrific, and the front view makes the whole thing look ungainly.

It's too tall, and too tarted up with crap to look pretty.

Alex
02-22-2006, 11:13 AM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Enterprise-B, Excelsior (Variant) Class Exploration Cruiser

By popular request...

Sweet! Now, if i asked really nice (and provided the registry number), could you do me up a version as the USS Durendal? ;)
02-22-2006, 01:40 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by Doug Burke

Sweet! Now, if i asked really nice (and provided the registry number), could you do me up a version as the USS Durendal? ;)

Shouldn't be much of a problem... since it's just putting back the 'plain label' spots and putting down a new registry, right?
02-22-2006, 01:42 PM
TFVanguard

USS Miranda Class Heavy Frigate

Yet another take on this. This time, I wanted to make use of Starship Modeller's rollbar design for TOS ships. I'm not entirely happy with this one either, but it seems to work better than most straight-up conversions.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...iranda_117.gif
02-22-2006, 02:53 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Shouldn't be much of a problem... since it's just putting back the 'plain label' spots and putting down a new registry, right?

True enough. I think I have the registry around here somewhere. Let me find it...
02-22-2006, 04:44 PM
First of Two

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Originally Posted by Captain Blake

Ew. Somebody stepped in something. The top view doesn't look too bad, but the side view looks horrific, and the front view makes the whole thing look ungainly.

It's too tall, and too tarted up with crap to look pretty.

Alex

True. The top view isn't too bad. If one junked the front view and all that crap under the main part of the secondary hull (what IS that, some kinda funky hangar deck?), and moved the nacelle "wings" up so that they hame out of the secondary hull, say, at its midpoint, it might almost make a decent ship. Might require enlarging the saucer a bit - bring it closer to a bridge-appropriate size.
02-22-2006, 05:23 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by Doug Burke

True enough. I think I have the registry around here somewhere. Let me find it...

Found it!

USS Durendal, NCC-9038. :)

If you wanted to just shoot me the graphic through email (dougal_AT_sisna_DOT_com) that would positively rock...
02-22-2006, 06:12 PM
TFVanguard

Well, here's two Durendal's for you. The latter one is something I played with in effects, which worked out pretty cool - looks lifted from an LCARS display.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...rendal_513.gif

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...ndal_2_207.gif
02-23-2006, 04:17 AM
Sho-sa Kurita

Now see, that's what I was looking for in Starships. Like the ones in the Narrator's Guide but those images were soooo dark.
02-23-2006, 10:12 AM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Well, here's two Durendal's for you. The latter one is something I played with in effects, which worked out pretty cool - looks lifted from an LCARS display.

That rocks!!! TFV, you're my HERO! :D
02-23-2006, 11:01 AM
PGoodman13

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Well, here's two Durendal's for you. The latter one is something I played with in effects, which worked out pretty cool - looks lifted from an LCARS display.

Now, that is so very sweet!!
02-23-2006, 03:56 PM
Captain Blake

Ditto from me. That's kick ass.

Alex
02-24-2006, 03:53 PM
TFVanguard

USS Avenger Class Frigate

Essentially, the prototype design for USS Reliant in TWOK.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...venger_655.gif
02-24-2006, 03:58 PM
PGoodman13

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Avenger Class Frigate

Essentially, the prototype design for USS Reliant in TWOK.

I like it! Must stat this one out, too, in my copious unstructured free time.
02-24-2006, 04:01 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by PGoodman13

I like it! Must stat this one out, too, in my copious unstructured free time.

Wouldn't be hard.. just copy the Reliant. :) Overall, it's got the exact same capabilties. Might be a point or two less in structure (due to less mass without the rollbar assembly), but everything else is the same.
02-24-2006, 07:37 PM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

USS Avenger Class Frigate

Essentially, the prototype design for USS Reliant in TWOK.

This from anything?
02-24-2006, 07:45 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by C. Huth

This from anything?

Yep. This is the design that Harve Bennet approved for the Avenger (which would be Reliant later) ... upside down.
03-05-2006, 11:38 AM
TFVanguard

USS Indomitable Class Battleship

One of Jaynez's more itneresting ships, but with serious flaws, particularly when you take it's back-story (one of the last pre-Excelsior designs) into account. To make it more difficult, there's a physical model kit (1:2500) that is a pure Connie derivative, with some unique lines and fixes of its own.

This uses the model as a 'base' for the biases in drawing the lines. As a result, it's closer to that than the Jaynez's file, but still recognizable as the same ship.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...itable_181.gif
03-05-2006, 09:09 PM
TFVanguard

USS Griffon Class Escort Frigate

Frigate? More like CRUISER. This actually is the size (down to the pixel) given, with the pieces slightly altered for consistancy. Not a lot of editing on this one, actually.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...riffon_119.gif
03-07-2006, 03:03 PM
TFVanguard

USS Wizard Class Experimental Cruiser

Well, another of the 'Jaynz' files, this one from the so-incredibly-obscure-you-won't-believe-it Stardrive magazine. The official numbers are laughably bad, the backstory rediculous , etc...

I went from the design art, tweaking it just a little, and blithely ignoring the written material.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...wizard_327.gif
03-09-2006, 09:56 AM
TFVanguard

Romulan V-8 Bird of Prey (Classic Cruiser)

By request, and something I've been wanting to get done anyway.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...f_prey_363.gif
03-09-2006, 10:22 AM
PGoodman13

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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan V-8 Bird of Prey (Classic Cruiser)

By request, and something I've been wanting to get done anyway.

Ooooh! Shiny!
03-09-2006, 11:05 AM
TFVanguard

Gorn Cruiser (SFB)

Another one that's been sitting on the drive undone for too long, so I decided to wrap it up. Basically, this is the destroyer with a second 'large hull', and new 'wings' to the sides. Most of the Gorn ships in SFB are built like this, which kinda makes sense, I guess... Again, the warp engines are based somewhat on those found for Gorn ships in FASA as wel.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...ruiser_409.gif
03-09-2006, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Romulan V-8 Bird of Prey (Classic Cruiser)

By request, and something I've been wanting to get done anyway.

Now that's again a nice ship :eek:
03-09-2006, 03:13 PM
TFVanguard

Pearl Harbor Type Mobile Drydock Facility

I've got mixed feelings on this one. It's not a bad idea, but the engine placement is pretty odd. The original art was very muddled (and tiny) and it was hard to get all the details right, since they were largely impossible to make out. Ah well...

Also, given the facility type, and the backstory, I made this 'Pearl Harbor' instead of 'Pearl'.. made more sense.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...harbor_184.gif
03-10-2006, 01:00 AM
BouncyCaitian

The warp gemoetry on that has got to be a mess. The Aztec class at least had the warp drive on top of the unit
03-10-2006, 02:26 AM
The Tatterdemalion King

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Originally Posted by BouncyCaitian

The warp gemoetry on that has got to be a mess. The Aztec class at least had the warp drive on top of the unit

Yeah, seriously.

What if, instead of it being a rigid frame flying around, there was a tug-like central ship that had spars/panels forming a drydock shape when not maneuvering, but that curl or fold up when moving?
03-10-2006, 02:47 AM
BouncyCaitian

Aztec class had the bridge and warp pylon up in front of the drydock (hood ornament effect), leading the rest of the dock
03-10-2006, 04:20 AM
Phoenix

To be honest, I've always liked the Klingon version more...I just cannot remember it's name at the moment...Murph maybe...
03-10-2006, 04:54 AM
Sundowner

Cool thread, nice work on the ships... Just browsed for threads I, II & III, but all the pics seem to have gone from I & II, any chance of a peek at them?

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Originally Posted by BouncyCaitian

The warp gemoetry on that has got to be a mess. The Aztec class at least had the warp drive on top of the unit

IIRC, isn't this the one on the FASA SRM that 'folded'?

That should make the warp geometry less of a muddle (though IMHO it'd still be only 'very' low warp capable)

Thoughts?
03-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Doug Burke

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Originally Posted by C. Huth

Yeah, seriously.

What if, instead of it being a rigid frame flying around, there was a tug-like central ship that had spars/panels forming a drydock shape when not maneuvering, but that curl or fold up when moving?

IIRC, the orgiginal FASA version did fold up for transport.
03-10-2006, 01:35 PM
TFVanguard

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Originally Posted by Sundowner

Cool thread, nice work on the ships... Just browsed for threads I, II & III, but all the pics seem to have gone from I & II, any chance of a peek at them?

I'm going to get another guide together this weekend, which will have a lot of the 'missing' TOS ships. (My server on pixelsagas is rigged to delete posts more than 90 days old... )

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IIRC, isn't this the one on the FASA SRM that 'folded'?

Yes, though it folded oddly. The 'work hull' wouldn't make sense. Also, the bottom plating of the dock would disallow the majority of FASA's Federation ships from actually fitting inside the dock.
03-13-2006, 04:42 PM
TFVanguard

Scorpio Type Corvette

Drawn to scale with shuttlecraft

Hate this ship. Hate the design. Hate the scaling issues. Hate the detailing issues. Hate that this is nothing like a Starfleet ships, particularly for the era it's supposed to be in... No hatch (big enough) to get in, no impulse system, no warp system, no viewable weapon ports (at this scale, it's a must)... etc

Utterly bizzare piece of crap all around.

Did what I could with it, but I hate this turkey.

http://www.pixelsagas.com/forum/file...corpio_951.gif
03-13-2006, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

Scorpio Type Corvette

Drawn to scale with shuttlecraft

Hate this ship. Hate the design. Hate the scaling issues. Hate the detailing issues. Hate that this is nothing like a Starfleet ships, particularly for the era it's supposed to be in... No hatch (big enough) to get in, no impulse system, no warp system, no viewable weapon ports (at this scale, it's a must)... etc

Utterly bizzare piece of crap all around.

Did what I could with it, but I hate this turkey.

A brick with sharp edged wings. Does it fly? :p
03-13-2006, 05:23 PM
TFVanguard

The original looked like a winged dildo. I just tried to make it fit more with the shuttlecraft of the Era, if only to give the damn thing the hatch and engines that it was supposed to have.
03-14-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TFVanguard

The original looked like a winged dildo. I just tried to make it fit more with the shuttlecraft of the Era, if only to give the damn thing the hatch and engines that it was supposed to have.

This wasn't meant as critisism, you're doing a wonderful job here. :D

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