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The next thing I hope to post here is my idea of the Praetorian-class Dreadnought. Been running ideas for the past couple of weeks. As soon as I have something concrete I will post it here.
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Or, you could always visit:Quote:
Originally posted by Aedh Rua:
Glad y'all like the Romulan material so much. Permit me to add some more:
http://www.pcnet.com/~jdutka/trek/
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I have ICON stats for a Romulan gunship, that I had been meaning to translate into Spacedock.
The concept of the vessel is that the Romulan technicians that fitted the cloaking device to the USS Defiant took as much (If not more) data then they were supplying in a successful Intelligence op, and this new ship is the equivalent of the Defiant, incorporating the Romulan take on ablative armour and Phased Pulse Disruptors...
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Phased Pulse Disruptors? Please My friend share the info. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
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hehehe, the Phased Pulse Disrutors were simply the application of Pulse Phaser to disrutor technology.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Phased Pulse Disruptors? Please My friend share the info. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
I hadn't decided totally if the Romulans simply lifted the entire design and built copies of the Defiants Pulse Phasers or if they had converted it to Disruptor tech...
1 is a simple name change, and the other would alter the Spacedock SU cost...
But the basic workings are exactly that of the Pulse Phasers. More powerful, Repeatng, Forward-Firing weapons...
When I get home, I will repost the ship for discussion and good clean fun, in the name of D'era of course...
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Well, as promised, heres the ships design;
http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/For...ML/001018.html
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Very nice work on the language and ships but we all should remember that the Romulans have no Honor and operate through lies and deseption. But then thats what appeals to most of you!
I was toying with something like that, only in my idea I had a Romulan agaent lift it right out of a computer at Utopia Plantia. Note this was only an idea, it never came to pass in the game. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif The ones used in the design of the defiant. I forgot about the Romulan engineers who installed the cloak on the Defiant. I was thinking of incorporating them into the Praetorian-class design I have in mind.
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Who let that Tor'za in here? http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Very nice design on the Gunship, another to add to my collection...once I convert back to LUG that is. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
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Hi Phantom. Thanks.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
once I convert back to LUG that is. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
But the template Is already in LUG ICON format, I have not yet managed to find the time to turn it into Spacedock...
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Ohhh, is my face red. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/redface.gif
I thought it was a little short for SD ship, like I side before I don't really pay attention to SD ships. Only what I think is worth converting. Well, less work for me then. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Again good design.
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I have a question, and since it doesn't really fit into any other thread I will post it under my own...that way no one gets upset. Also, it bumps this thread to the top again as well. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Ok, here's the question...Did the Sao Paolo (ie "new" Defiant) have a cloak put on it once it took up station on DS9? Or was the original a one shot deal?
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Once again...BUMP. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
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A message for Aedh Rua, if you are still haunting this board?
Could you come up with the Romulan for Warwolf?
Thanks.
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Originally posted by Phantom:
Ok, here's the question...Did the Sao Paolo (ie "new" Defiant) have a cloak put on it once it took up station on DS9? Or was the original a one shot deal?
Officially? Never mentioned. However the writers of the new DS9 series of books were faced with this very question and with an absence of an official answer have said that 'Yes, the Defiant-A is fitted with a cloaking device'.
However according to the treaty, the cloak was on loan, for the Defiant to gather intelligence on the Dominion for the Romulans.
So it can also be said that there was no need for the Sao Paulo to be fitted with a cloak.
In the end, the answer is up to you!
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Oh, I am still out here, just very busy with the new job. So, warwolf......
Well, the word for war is "akh". That is true in most Golic and non-Golic Vulcan languages, and also in Romulan. The problem is that Vulcan has no modern word for wolf. "Kren-tu" was the Vulcan equivalent of the wolf, but the Kren-tu is now extinct.
It seems awfully likely that the Kren-tu went extinct before the Vulcan Reformation, since pacifist vegetarians make notoriously poor hunters. This would mean that the Kren-tu was already extinct when the early Romulans headed for the stars.
Still, it is the only word we have, so we might assume that the Romulans called whatever local wolflike carnivore existed a wolf. Certainly, humans have often done this, as witness all of the North American species called by Old World names.
Kren-tu, when it undergoes the Romulan Sound Shift becomes Khranto. So we have Akh'khranto, or perhaps Khranto t'Akh, which actualy means "Wolf of War", not quite the same thing, but very close.
Hope that helps!
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Multi-purpose post:
1) Help keep near top http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
2) Phantom, i've just -finally- regained access to a computer and wasn't able to get in touch with yer store owning friend. I'll post here or mail you when I get around to setting up an e-mail account. Sorry fer any trouble, let me take this oppurtunity to flame Compaq > http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
3) My campaign has taken a somewhat different turn than I was hoping and I was wondering if anybody knew anywhere here or on another site where I could find a good many Romulan ship designs. Couldn't think of anywhere else to ask this. Don't care if they're Spacedock or original-ICON (I can always convert) though SD is preferred. I've done up a few but would like to save myself unnescessary work, especially with having to design a Ktarian Pirate Ship and other interesting targets... errrr ships.
--Than
Aedh Rua
Thanks for the translation. I thought it would make a good name for a Rom ship, it was what Edward Long Shanks called a Trebuchet that had been designed for him...it was somewhat larger and more powerful then the usual model. Thanks again.
Thanatos
Good to hear from you again!
1) I thank you for the bump to top. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
2) Flame ahead I will join you, I will never buy from Compaq again! After my last computer.
3)Campaigns tend to do that. I don't have SD designs, but there are new designs in the Way of D'era for LUG, if you let me know what type of ship you are looking for I could post it. Also, I think it was Dan Gurden posted a Romulan Escort-class he designed, its on the boards here somewhere. Plus I have been meaning to do some designs my self in the near future...just have to find the time.
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I did, and heres the link to the appropriate thread. Its in ICON and has not yet been translated into spacedock... But what can I say, I am good at species and careers not spaceships. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001018.html
I also made a spacedock version of the Romulan shuttle (Not the 3 deck monstrosity in Way of D'era), returning it to the equivalent of a Runabout in size. This can be found here;
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.u...an_shuttle.htm
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Dan, that escort was pretty much ideal for what I needed. I'm going to have plenty'o'fun with it http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Phantom, as for any designs you make I look forward to seeing them. I'm hammering out a few bugs on some of my own in SD (what do you mean I'm over by 1000 SU?!?!?) so I'll put those up when I'm done (if I finish, that is). Right now I have a slightly over-powered Romulan Colony Ship (dunno if trek uses those, but i certainly do), a mid-large gunship, and Romulan Fast Attack Ship (fer post Dominion War games). Let me know if any strike yer fancy and I'll finish it up a bit quicker.
Anyhoo, still working out the details of my e-mail access with my new roomate so I should have an addy to give you in a day or two http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/rolleyes.gif things would be soooo much easier if the government would just issue e-mail addies like street addresses
Thanks again fer the ships, Dan, much obliged, and talk to joo all laterz http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/smile.gif
--Than
Could someone direct me to where I can view the sketches and renders mentioned? I can't seem to track them down.
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Originally posted by darkwing duck1:
Could someone direct me to where I can view the sketches and renders mentioned? I can't seem to track them down.
I just e-mailed you the Romulan copy of the Defiant, I think. Let me know if you received it. I have three other sketches that have been sent to me as well, if you would like them I don't think there will be a problem.
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I can see how you beat Styro so fast and hit the 1000 mark http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gifQuote:
Didn't know you had a Romulan thread tucked away here.
Whats the topic in general, tech? Or Romulans in general?
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SIR SIG
More then meets the eye,
His a MapMaker in disguise.
It did help, but only a tiny bit. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gifQuote:
Originally posted by SIR SIG:
I can see how you beat Styro so fast and hit the 1000 mark http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif
Didn't know you had a Romulan thread tucked away here.
Whats the topic in general, tech? Or Romulans in general?
The discussion is about any and all things Romulan. If you check previous posts we have someone who has done a lot of work hammering out the Romulan language, take a bow AR. Plus there are a few ship designs and one or two adventure ideas floating around.
We deal primarily with the Romulans as seen on the shows, but we are not opposesed to a Rhiannsu (is that spelled right? Don't have time to check.) fans sounding off as well, don't think we have yet though.
If you have anything you wish to discuss about the Romulans Sig, please post away.
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Now, now no more bandwidth banditry. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif I don't want Don kicking me out of my own thread. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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To everyone who has posted here, a question.
Do you think that we have any 'fan based fiction' potential?
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Picked up "All Our Yesterdays" today, looks interesting. What are peoples ideas of the Vhorai-class "Timebird" and other Timeships? It seems, according to the book, the Romulans have more knowledge of the "strategic" uses of time travel, as long as as it does not damage the Empire...brings some interesting questions to mind.
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Oh I think we could hammer out something...Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
To everyone who has posted here, a question.
Do you think that we have any 'fan based fiction' potential?
Phoenix...
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Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
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Well it usually works that way. Unfortunaetly one of my ever greatest complaints about Trek has always been that while the Federation is tech-advancement happy the other races make advancements every couple episodes at most (and then only as a threat that gets blown up/neutralised/or treatied out of existence in that episode).Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
On tee-vee that's fine, because we're focussed on the feds (damned humans) and they're supposed to win. In RPGs not so much because it wreaks horrible havoc with game balance.
IMHO the Romulan developments of cloaking technology would have to have been progressing along the same rate as Federation sensors, kind of a cold war arms race. And as I recall cloaking devices still worked rather nicely near the end of the Dominion War for the rommies (not sure how canon that is, just thinking back to the DWS's mentionings of the liberation of Belzar (?)), so obviously they've not been sitting in place with their collective thumbs up their collective arses.
For game purposes I use a cannibalised version of the advancement system in the Shadowrun Companion for 2nd Ed. It held the concepts of technological progression together by causing older tech to stop working so well. Thus every couple months a cloaking device loses one point of effectiveness (falling behind on advancements in both cloaking and detection techs) unless it docks and spends some time refitting (this loss of effectiveness neither effects the size or power consumption of the system in question). Mostly I had to come up with something because the campaign I'm presently running is 2/3 Romulan and 1/3 mercenary.
Well, that's my two cents on the idea. I feel that if you can make the cloak bend light and whatever energy sensors use to detect, then you can also improve it to bend other forms of energy as well to prevent further detection. Hope this helps http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/smile.gif
According to the DWS the Romulans were a little more straight forward in the re-taking (invasion?) of Benzar. They basically went in like a sledgehammer and slugged it out with the Dominion forces. The DWS does also mention some battles where they did use the cloak to good effect.
I've been asking if anyone else thinks we should do something with all this info we have, maybe an upgrade concept would be a good idea to work on as well?
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Hey, Phantom, that is after all the way of things. Many books and sites state that the current cloaking technology used by the Romulans is way more advanced that that seen in TOS...Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
Even more advanced than the cloaking devices used by the Klingons.
Historicly military advancements are temporary anyway as 'counter' technology is developed in the arms race...
So it seems fair to assume that the next generation of cloaking devices will be able tou counter some or all of these detection methods, and also seems fair that the Romulans are working on if not testing such a device, after all they seemed awfully happy for the Federation to get the cloaking device for the Defiant.
So if you like give your players a 'next generation' cloaking device to test, and remember that prototypes can often go wrong... http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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DanG.
"Hi, I'm Commander Troy McClure, you might remember me from other academy training holo-simulations as, Abandon Ship, the quickest way out, and I sense danger, 101 things you dont need a Betazoid to know..."
http://www.theventure.freeserve.co.uk
Yeah, that kind of was my point. I realize that the Feds would be doing all they could to defeat the cloaking device (and they have done a good job at it), what I haven't seen is information saying what the Romulans are doing to improve on the device. Other then the phase cloak, something that I don't see being completely perfected for years, if not decades, yet.
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Maybe they need to define their shipbuilding skills. Somwthing nice and sleek to support the ultimate stealth cloak (tm).
Dan's gunship comes to mind http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
eg Fed ships are getting longer and thinner to get a better warb bubble.
Rommie ships seem to be getting rounder and sleeker. Maybe make a 'stealth fighter' version of a Warbird. Something in a diving pose to get that angled sleek look.
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SIR SIG
More then meets the eye,
His a MapMaker in disguise.
Phantom,
Um, wouldn't the Tal Shiar kill anyone who let us know what the Romulans are doing to fix their cloak? http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
The Romulans seem, from the on screen evidence, to like Really Big and Intimidating Ships. Curved to protect the warp/cloak bubble integrity.
However, I would think that it would be easier to cloak something smaller. After all, the larger the ship, the more there is to hide.
So, using what the Master Mapmaker said, sleeker vessels, along with a smaller size, should make a bit of a difference. Something smaller, sleeker, and more heavily gunned. An incursion ship, or a Romulan Defiant. I wonder where we could get one of those? http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Plus, the Romulans know that the Fed uses Tachyons to detect the cloak. They can tune the cloak to repel tachyons, perhaps at a loss of other things.
Hmmmm, how about a coaxial cloak. A cloak inside a cloak. The outer one can be useful against tachyons, dekyons, chronotons, etc. The inner one could be a standard cloak.
It'd be nasty on the power drain, and supporting a cloak inside a cloak would be a tremedous computational problem to keep running, not to mension possible problems with synchronization and harmonic resonances.
It would still allow for a technobabble emergency "find the romulan ship". "Our Phased polaron pulse has caused a harmonic resonance at their dual cloak interface." etc.
But, the typical methods (Tachyon detection grid) wouldn't work.
Of cource, the Romulans wouldn't want to put this on every ship. Just a few incursion/scout ships. After all, if all of a sudden the Fed couldn't see the Romulan ships, they'd start searching for the new tech.
Better to mount the coaxial cloak on a few ships, keep it hidden, to better spring a surprise.
Hope this is useful in some way.
Alex
That is why they use the "sleek, curved look" for there ships. The bigger they got they needed to improve the "cloak geometry" ( a term I use) of their ships, hence the curved out lines.
I have to say that this info is exactly what I am looking for, these are great ideas. Keep 'em coming. I should mention that I am currently not running a game, but you never know what the future holds. Plus all the more info helps if ever decide to something fan based. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Bump.
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Using the map in the Way of D'era as a base, does anyone know where the Cardassian Union is located?
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