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Getting drummed out of Starfleet doesn't mean she can't be a valuable ally...as an outsider she can go where Starfleet can't go...do things that Starfleet can't do (well outside of Section 31 at any rate) I'd say she'd be more valuable out rather than in Starfleet. Food of thought there huh?
Mayhap, mayhap. But I think in the end, shutting her up, promoting her and sending her off to teach at the Academy is more what Starfleet will do.
Certainly after the Dominion War the last thing they want is to tarnish Starfleet's public identity.
And like I say, since most of the Voyager TV Show didn't happen in my universe, mostly because I can steal the stuff I like and forget the lame-assed stuff that made no sense (like most of Endgame) ;)
So she can teach others to do the same %§&#* she did ?!?! :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Zymmer
Mayhap, mayhap. But I think in the end, shutting her up, promoting her and sending her off to teach at the Academy is more what Starfleet will do.
I sure wouldn't want to serve on ANY ship with someone who takes the Janeway style to heart.
Good for you VOY is semi-canon for your game. ;) :p
There we some good ideas in the whole affair, but overall there were mostly bad ones. But some good aliens and cool ships that can always be plundered for various adventures and events in my game. :)
Just one thing though...did 7 of 9 survive in your campaign? You can't tell me that you wrote out such a great character.
Are you kiding me?
When they found Voyager she was wearing a uniform and had a rank and everything.
Oh and on my Voyager, since they were in touchw ith the Alpha Quadrant, they upadted the uniforms as well! :)
Yess Lieutenant Hansen is alive and well and Dr. Crusher thinsk she may be able to remove the cortical node :)
Heck she saved Picard.
Can you imagine Picard and Seven meeting for the first time? Too bad she won't be in Nemesis.
Hmm...but then Picard hadn't been a Borg for very long....a few days or hours. Mr Hasen had been a Borg for about two decades, the Borg biowear may have bonded more permanently to her system than Picard. Just a thought.
Bah
I refuse to accept that in a world of transporter clones, borg tech can't be removed :)
Just can't accept it at all. Now I didn't say it wouldn't be dangerous, but in the end she looks better with the whole borg wear anywho. :)
Personally I prefer 7 with the Borg tech...makes her more exotic and sexy IMHO. I'm sure the other horndogs will agree with me. AOOOO!!!! :D
Why not start a chant of LGT while you are at it :p
Ok, I understand that Voyager wasn't the greatest of Trek shows, but why is everyone up in arms against Janeway????! I'm not trying to start an argument thread here all I'm looking for is a real reason why she was such a bad SF Captain. Don't give me examples like torturing that crewman from the Equinox, sorry don't buy that one. Give me one specific example of her breaking General Order 1 to the point where she should be drummed out of the service.
Here's a hint you are going to have to be good as I have already decided to have ADM. K. JANEWAY be the commander of a rather important Starbase in a game that I am planning. I like her and her command style...She never asked a crewman to something she hadn't done her self in the past and she got the majority of her crew home.
Sorry about the hijack Capt. Z. But I would just like to know what the solid evidence everyone seems to have against the good Captain. If needed start another thread, but I would really like to know.
I hated her acting :)
There I said it.
The writing was lame and frankly I wouldn't follow her to the store, let alone into the jaws of hell.
She came off as petulant and argumentative. Bitchy and knowitall.
And no it isn't becuase she was a she, it is becuase Kate Mulgrew is a bad, bad actress. :)
IMHO
Okay, I guess I should have been a lttile more specific.Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Zymmer
I hated her acting :)
There I said it.
The writing was lame and frankly I wouldn't follow her to the store, let alone into the jaws of hell.
She came off as petulant and argumentative. Bitchy and knowitall.
And no it isn't becuase she was a she, it is becuase Kate Mulgrew is a bad, bad actress. :)
IMHO
1) I was talking about the character not the actress.
2) Agreed the writting could have been alot better.
3) Like most scientists? Not trying to be insulting here, but most scientists are arrogant "know it alls". Example: David Suzuki.
But the reason I don't like the character is the portrayal of her by the actress.
I never once felt sympathy for her failures, or felt triumph for her victories either. Becuase I didn't think the actress did a good job of bringing me in.
bad acting can kill a good character. So can bad writing, whne you have both, well then you have lost me completely. :(
So what you are saying is that if "a better" actress had portrayed her and if the writting had been done better you probably would have liked the character?Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Zymmer
But the reason I don't like the character is the portrayal of her by the actress.
I never once felt sympathy for her failures, or felt triumph for her victories either. Becuase I didn't think the actress did a good job of bringing me in.
bad acting can kill a good character. So can bad writing, whne you have both, well then you have lost me completely. :(