Still more footage of celebrations over there. Oh yeah, just warms your heart, don't it?
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Still more footage of celebrations over there. Oh yeah, just warms your heart, don't it?
A statement was just said I think hits the nail on the head. This woman asked "Looking at their celebrations, do they hate us this much?" To which the reply was simply, "Yes"
Protius - what are you watching?
We've been flipping through the major networks, CBS, NBC, we don't have cable.
I also agree about the Tom Clancy remark... It's eerie...
Everyone around says they're surprised, shocked, etc;
I'm not. Anyone who reads the specialized press and who actually LISTENS to the military experts will recognize that this was a very plausible scenario.
as for the "whodunnit??" part; I'm surprised that Bin Laden is in total denial; usually he was always the first up to claim responsability for such acts (albeit on a much smaller scale) in the past. Maybe he's scared shitless (very unlikely) or he's got pressure from some rogue nation to shut up in order to throw confusion around.
As for me, I have a theory... I don't think you guys understood where I was going with my previous post. I'll be more conspicuous: WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THE HATE (...justified or not) THAT THE US PUBLIC NOW FEELS TOWARDS PALESTINIANS/ARABS/MUSLIMS/whatever?? I have a very particular country in mind. As I say, they must be estatic right now, that's exactly the kind of break they need...
but hey, it's just a theory...
Understood but just ignored.Quote:
Originally posted by Angry_Cartman:
As for me, I have a theory... I don't think you guys understood where I was going with my previous post. I'll be more conspicuous: WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM THE HATE (...justified or not) THAT THE US PUBLIC NOW FEELS TOWARDS PALESTINIANS/ARABS/MUSLIMS/whatever?? I have a very particular country in mind. As I say, they must be estatic right now, that's exactly the kind of break they need...
been reading the Illuminatus Trilogy.. and it's so hard.. not to think in conspiracy-theories right now... but still cartman, i think that's a rather wild theory
Hey now, curb the anti-Arab and anti-semitic crap... even suggesting that Israel would perpetrate such an action is simply inconceivable. Certainly few like the fact that the Israelis persecute the Palestinians, but to suggest that they'd set up the United States..? Madness.
I must agree, however, regarding Usama bin Laden's denial of involvement. That pig-f*cker has always claimed responsibility for the actions of his group in the past, so his denial is either the truth, a ruse, or a cowardly attempt to avoid getting spanked by the U.S. military; take your pick.
Who would do this?
Oh, and by the way, I'm not in shock. I've been expecting this sort of thing for years. But then it's the kind of thing that everyone thinks will never happen in their country...
mactavish out.
If you say your gonna do it and then it happens... what are the odds you didn't do it.
Well my stance on conspiracy theories is that life is hardly so interesting. It may be true, but you'll never know it as a public so why bother.
Anyhow, would he be more prone to deny it if, as it has been made known, a couple of his key hits never made their target?
Another note as to why the flights were heading for LA. Not only would they be carrying enough fuel for an cross-country flight, but they also had to carry extra fuel to fight headwinds.
On top of that Canadian border is now sealed.
As is the mexican.
Two carrier groups moving to NY and one recalled from Victoria but to go where?
Israeli persecution of Arabs? Why does everyone word it like that? It is Israeli retaliation. Check all the back terroist attacks, the Palistinians struck first. It is this that really makes me mad, a Palistinian blows up a disco in Israel and it gets 5 minutes news coverage for 1 day. The Israelis justly retaliate, and they're clobbered on the news for weeks.
Anyway beside the point. The reason why no-one is claiming responsiblity in this (INMHO) is the fact they know the US will blow them to the moon. It is enough for everyone to "know" that they did it, they don't have to say they did it.
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I said it was a theory; for all I know it could be Liechtenstein behind it....
But tell me if I'm wrong when I say that this will give a tremendous boost to Israel.
And if you think that this kind of horror is beneath even them, then you've never heard of the Mossad ("the institute"), their intelligence service. Simply put, those guys are nuts (and the best, which make them even more dangerous). To be more precise (and fair), when I mean this plays into their hands, "they" are the hard-line Israeli zealots who represent, I am sure, a tiny portion of the Israeli population (who would be shocked to learn what atrocities some people in their own govt commit).
In a related matter, I also always believed that the assassination of moderate leader Ythzak Rabin was in fact planned by them... also played in their hands too.
Look folks, I'm just saying it's a theory and I have NO FACT to back this up whatsoever... it's just that on the surface it's holding quite well logically. But then again, I'll be the first to concede that because an explanation fits the fact it does not mean it has any ring of truth in it.
Finally, I would like to see where are the anti-arab or anti-semitic comments on those boards?!... If I would accuse the US of having plotted a war for oil (sounds familiar?) would I be accused of being anti-american? That would be funny, as for a Canadian you would be hard-pressed to find one that is more pro-US than me... and for that matter there are many Israeli policies I agree with, these people ARE besieged.
Remember, everyone in the arena of INTL politics is a bastard; I remember this line from "Clear and Present Danger" (ya know with Harrison Ford, the TC novel?), where this shrewed presidential advisor said "the world is not black and white, it's grey"...
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Sorry guys. It probably was our unbelievably lax system of entry into our country that allowed this scum entry into yours. It has been a known fact, to any who are observant enough, that every terrorist organization in the world has representatives in Canada, simply because it is so easy to get in. Then it is a direct line across the border.Quote:
Originally posted by Protius:
Another note as to why the flights were heading for LA. Not only would they be carrying enough fuel for an cross-country flight, but they also had to carry extra fuel to fight headwinds.
On top of that Canadian border is now sealed.
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