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Now, now no more bandwidth banditry. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif I don't want Don kicking me out of my own thread. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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To everyone who has posted here, a question.
Do you think that we have any 'fan based fiction' potential?
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Picked up "All Our Yesterdays" today, looks interesting. What are peoples ideas of the Vhorai-class "Timebird" and other Timeships? It seems, according to the book, the Romulans have more knowledge of the "strategic" uses of time travel, as long as as it does not damage the Empire...brings some interesting questions to mind.
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Oh I think we could hammer out something...Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
To everyone who has posted here, a question.
Do you think that we have any 'fan based fiction' potential?
Phoenix...
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Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
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Well it usually works that way. Unfortunaetly one of my ever greatest complaints about Trek has always been that while the Federation is tech-advancement happy the other races make advancements every couple episodes at most (and then only as a threat that gets blown up/neutralised/or treatied out of existence in that episode).Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
On tee-vee that's fine, because we're focussed on the feds (damned humans) and they're supposed to win. In RPGs not so much because it wreaks horrible havoc with game balance.
IMHO the Romulan developments of cloaking technology would have to have been progressing along the same rate as Federation sensors, kind of a cold war arms race. And as I recall cloaking devices still worked rather nicely near the end of the Dominion War for the rommies (not sure how canon that is, just thinking back to the DWS's mentionings of the liberation of Belzar (?)), so obviously they've not been sitting in place with their collective thumbs up their collective arses.
For game purposes I use a cannibalised version of the advancement system in the Shadowrun Companion for 2nd Ed. It held the concepts of technological progression together by causing older tech to stop working so well. Thus every couple months a cloaking device loses one point of effectiveness (falling behind on advancements in both cloaking and detection techs) unless it docks and spends some time refitting (this loss of effectiveness neither effects the size or power consumption of the system in question). Mostly I had to come up with something because the campaign I'm presently running is 2/3 Romulan and 1/3 mercenary.
Well, that's my two cents on the idea. I feel that if you can make the cloak bend light and whatever energy sensors use to detect, then you can also improve it to bend other forms of energy as well to prevent further detection. Hope this helps http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/smile.gif
According to the DWS the Romulans were a little more straight forward in the re-taking (invasion?) of Benzar. They basically went in like a sledgehammer and slugged it out with the Dominion forces. The DWS does also mention some battles where they did use the cloak to good effect.
I've been asking if anyone else thinks we should do something with all this info we have, maybe an upgrade concept would be a good idea to work on as well?
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Hey, Phantom, that is after all the way of things. Many books and sites state that the current cloaking technology used by the Romulans is way more advanced that that seen in TOS...Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom:
Sub-space listening posts, tachyon detection grids, gravametric sensors and chronitons. Is it just me or does it now seem easier to track a cloaked ship then an uncloaked one?
Seems to me the cloak is no longer the tactical/strategic tool it once was. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/frown.gif
Even more advanced than the cloaking devices used by the Klingons.
Historicly military advancements are temporary anyway as 'counter' technology is developed in the arms race...
So it seems fair to assume that the next generation of cloaking devices will be able tou counter some or all of these detection methods, and also seems fair that the Romulans are working on if not testing such a device, after all they seemed awfully happy for the Federation to get the cloaking device for the Defiant.
So if you like give your players a 'next generation' cloaking device to test, and remember that prototypes can often go wrong... http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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Yeah, that kind of was my point. I realize that the Feds would be doing all they could to defeat the cloaking device (and they have done a good job at it), what I haven't seen is information saying what the Romulans are doing to improve on the device. Other then the phase cloak, something that I don't see being completely perfected for years, if not decades, yet.
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Maybe they need to define their shipbuilding skills. Somwthing nice and sleek to support the ultimate stealth cloak (tm).
Dan's gunship comes to mind http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
eg Fed ships are getting longer and thinner to get a better warb bubble.
Rommie ships seem to be getting rounder and sleeker. Maybe make a 'stealth fighter' version of a Warbird. Something in a diving pose to get that angled sleek look.
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More then meets the eye,
His a MapMaker in disguise.
Phantom,
Um, wouldn't the Tal Shiar kill anyone who let us know what the Romulans are doing to fix their cloak? http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
The Romulans seem, from the on screen evidence, to like Really Big and Intimidating Ships. Curved to protect the warp/cloak bubble integrity.
However, I would think that it would be easier to cloak something smaller. After all, the larger the ship, the more there is to hide.
So, using what the Master Mapmaker said, sleeker vessels, along with a smaller size, should make a bit of a difference. Something smaller, sleeker, and more heavily gunned. An incursion ship, or a Romulan Defiant. I wonder where we could get one of those? http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
Plus, the Romulans know that the Fed uses Tachyons to detect the cloak. They can tune the cloak to repel tachyons, perhaps at a loss of other things.
Hmmmm, how about a coaxial cloak. A cloak inside a cloak. The outer one can be useful against tachyons, dekyons, chronotons, etc. The inner one could be a standard cloak.
It'd be nasty on the power drain, and supporting a cloak inside a cloak would be a tremedous computational problem to keep running, not to mension possible problems with synchronization and harmonic resonances.
It would still allow for a technobabble emergency "find the romulan ship". "Our Phased polaron pulse has caused a harmonic resonance at their dual cloak interface." etc.
But, the typical methods (Tachyon detection grid) wouldn't work.
Of cource, the Romulans wouldn't want to put this on every ship. Just a few incursion/scout ships. After all, if all of a sudden the Fed couldn't see the Romulan ships, they'd start searching for the new tech.
Better to mount the coaxial cloak on a few ships, keep it hidden, to better spring a surprise.
Hope this is useful in some way.
Alex
That is why they use the "sleek, curved look" for there ships. The bigger they got they needed to improve the "cloak geometry" ( a term I use) of their ships, hence the curved out lines.
I have to say that this info is exactly what I am looking for, these are great ideas. Keep 'em coming. I should mention that I am currently not running a game, but you never know what the future holds. Plus all the more info helps if ever decide to something fan based. http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Bump.
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Using the map in the Way of D'era as a base, does anyone know where the Cardassian Union is located?
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