Why didn't your borg assimilate the Federation

So why didn't they assimilate Federation space? They tried didn't they. Oh it was species 8724. NOT. They could have sent an extra cube. Oh it was the Queen. NOT she's lame. Oh it was the fact that it would end the series. NOT Picards to pimp he would a figured away to stop countless borg ships. so why didn't they send anything of worth to scoop up our friends in red blue and gold uniforms. I will tell you why.
Q.
Thats right. The first time they meet the Humans, System J24, they are about to gobble up a tiny little ship whose defense could not withstand them. They even threatend to punish them if they resisted. and right as they were about to bust out and take the Enterprise BAM Tran-trans-trans warp drive. Well where the hell did that come from? That silly Queen must have been shocked. So she looks through the Federation Data base and learns about Q. OMG>this super being is buddy buddy with Picard. He MUST be important. So lets get him.
Guess what. He is so pimp he overrides assimilation and blows up a cube that the humans were able to give commands to. HOLY MOLEY...this picard guy must be a Q also! That silly queen didn't know what to do. If she sent in an aramada Picard/Q would just eat it up. Okay lets focus on our own backyard she must have said.
Voyager? well lets take a look. HOLY COW Janeway is buddy buddy with one too. And look she is busting in and out of time anomolies,and rewriting universal law. she must be a Q- or at least think she is. That silly borg Queen must have been really upset. Those rotten humans and that talking Q. Hmmf.
Well thats why I think the borg never really tried to invade Federation space... They just sent in a cube every now and again to see if the Q were still paying attention.

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Hehehe!

Some interesting points http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif

I like to go by the other hand. When the cube scanned their database. They found the Creators home and had to be one with it http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/wink.gif

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Well to answer the question dierctly "Why didn't your borg assimilate the federtaion?"

Becuase then my game would be all about playing the bORG or a very dark and long struggle to eventually be assimilated...not what my players and I were looking for http://216.40.212.6/Board/ubb/smile.gif

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Because, in my Trek universe, Starfleet always uses the one advantage we have over the Collective - individuality. Individual starship captains will always pull some stunt that's so off-the-wall that the Borg can't see it coming. Sure, they have the tactical knowledge of thousands of species. I know lots of people, some almost as well as I know myself - but they can still surprise me.

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Originally posted by StyroFoam Man:
[B]They're afraid of That Damn Fish...

a Maalon waste hauler....

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Wow, that was one well travelled fish. Bet the Maalon gave it indigestion. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif



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Cpt Roper?

Did he have a few tentacles? lol http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif

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The Klingon Misunderstanding??

OMG that is one of the funniest thing's I've read!!! ROTFLOLCUAL!! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif

I've heard:
The Klingon War
The Klingon Crisis.
The Khitomer Breakdown
The Khitomer Incidents
The Second Federation/Klingon War

But, "The Klingon Misunderstanding" - that definitely takes the cake! I LOVE it!

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Well, what it all comes down to is that whatever Q wants, Q gets. Hey, doesn't that make Q a deity?

But, actually, I will give you a semi-serious answer, which might be even funnier than if tried to be funny. The Borg haven't assimilated the Federation because they keep sending one or two cubes at a time to do it.

Why is this? Because they must need their vast fleets of cubes for something else. Apparently, the Feds are just not that high a priority with them.

Why are the Feds so low priority? Well, for starters they are basically two primitive to be that interesting. Of course, they are advanced enough to have beaten the half-hearted Borg attempts at conquest, so that aren't THAT uninteresting. There must be something else.

What else? Well, it all comes down to Bad Ass Aliens. There must be someone on the other side of the Collective who is so mean, so aggressive, and so tough that the Collective needs most of their cubes just to contain them.

So, let's narrow the topic. Who could beat the Borg? The Krenim? They are certainly advanced enough, and they have Really Cool Uniforms to demoralize the enemy. But, we really don't know how powerful they are in the recently restored timeline, so it could be someone else.

Who?

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Slan agat!

I miss these old threads :)

Here's my take on it;

They've got crappy AI when it comes to combat.

Anyone remember the old days of computer gaming when if you did something really weird in a Real-time strategy the compuet game would freak, and start doing stupid things?

I figure the Borg suffer from the same damn thing. Be it either by the Q sending Picard into Borg space or them blowing up the cube over Earth; the Borg are confused about what exactly happened and why.

So now the Borg instead of mounting a large, concentrated and focused attack, they send one Cube at a time in a straight line towards the enemy HQ. Just like int he old Warcraft games when you'd destroy a starting enemy structure or you would block their unit movements to force them to go around a certain area.

The Borg are simply twits when it comes to long-range space tactics. Anyway what have they had to deal with in their space? The Hirogen, the Kazon, Maalon, Vidiians, Talaxians, and many more which don't seem to either a centralized authority to create a large space fleet or have a means to operate in a group. Only species 8472 provided the Borg with a challenge, and they still used the basic tactic that Gheorghi Joukov used in WW2, hordes of men.

At least, that's my reasoning.:)

Because I've never used the Borg in my game. I have a hard time balancing them- either they're the "mega-powerful superbeings no one can stop" like they were on TNG or they're the "pathetically weak Borg that the ENT-E took out in a single well-placed volley of fire in First Contact." Personally, I don't like either.

An author named Jack Williamson created a race of robots for a series of stories. They were called simply, "The Humanoids". This was some time ago, you might need to be a certified Old Fart to remember them.

Anyway, he was once asked why he didn't write more stories about them, and their attempts to overwhelm the galaxy (but in a nice way). His reply was along the lines of "because I didn't want to write a story where they would win. I couldn't write a story about them losing that wouldn't contradict established facts. I made them too well."

I think this is what the first Trek writers did with the Borg. They were popular, so the writers wanted to bring them back. So they had to dumb them down, or otherwise, they couldn't write a story where the Borg wouldn't win.

One might use them, post Voyager, by assuming that the destruction of their transwarp hub caused significant overloads and breakdowns of the other five hubs. Of course, this presumes you're willing to accept that (1) the transwarp hub would be as easily destroyed as it was, and (2) they'd never heard of building in excess capacity to handle node failure. Hey, in a world where you can talk a computer into shorting itself out, anything's possible. :)

Anyway, this would make the collective a series of small, disconnected fiefdoms, each evolving it its own way, possibly warring with the others on rediscovery. There could be collectives as small as a single scout ship, on up to as large as the remnants of a hub, depending on what you need.