News about the new Trek Series. TV Guide reported that the new series will air this fall and is about the early Federation 100 years before Kirk and Spock. there is a casting call with a list of charaters and one character is a young T'Pau.
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News about the new Trek Series. TV Guide reported that the new series will air this fall and is about the early Federation 100 years before Kirk and Spock. there is a casting call with a list of charaters and one character is a young T'Pau.
Is that the T'Pau from "Amok Time"?
Yes! the same T'Pau, but she is said to be more 'seven of nine-ish'. I was hoping for something more but this might be interesting. It might cover the Klingon Federation War.
Apparently, TV Guide is only reporting rumors from "anonymous reliable sources" as fact -- such was admitted by the author of the TV Guide article.
I, for one, won't accept any "news" about a prequel until it's officially announced by Paramount.
Y'know, I remember the premise of Deep Space Nine was announced -- with photos of the station -- much more in advance than Paramount is doing with Series V. I can't help but wonder why they're so hesistant about releasing the details?
Nonetheless, I'm hoping for the best, and I'll probably watch it -- at least, a few episodes -- no matter what it's about, just to give it a try ...
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Voka a Bentel
(May you walk with the Prophets),
Eris
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"Rana naz’g ol resu ji joreen."
(It is the unknown that defines our existence)
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Eris, I'm betting the reason they haven't put anything out is they don't HAVE anything. Braga is racing around looking for an idea that will redeem him in the eyes of Paramount.
It's gonna suck, guys... They're moving too fast & haven't thought the thing through. Just like Voyager.
I agree with qerlin; they don't have any clear idea of what to do, and that's why the old rumor -because it's already an old one- of a series previous to Classic Trek is back...
In my opinion, Berman has done a great work preserving the principles in which Roddenberry created Star Trek, as well as making other many mistakes in the process; anyway, the recent drop in audiences shows that he is too much burned out for more Star Trek... Paramount should look for a new replacement. Problem is that Berman knew Roddenberry, and probably any replacement didn't...
Anyway, just a proposal: J. M. Strackzynski?
JMS would be cool, but it looks like he's gonna have his hands full with a possible new B5 serieson sci-fi.
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Originally posted by Jabara Eris:
Y'know, I remember the premise of Deep Space Nine was announced -- with photos of the station -- much more in advance than Paramount is doing with Series V. I can't help but wonder why they're so hesistant about releasing the details?
Think about it. Why didn't we hear much about Star Trek Generations until the summer before it came out? Simple, Star Trek The Next Generation was still on the air and finishing up its series run. You don't want to steal the thunder from the show by giving the media details about something new. (I know having worked in newspapers for a decade)
I'm sure come June, after the last Voyager show airs, we'll get a lot of official details and confirmed rummors from Paramount and the production crews.
Jabara Eris. You said that TV Guide is quoting 'ananymous reliable sources' and this was admitted by the author. Where did you obtain this information? The author is Michael Logan and he does not say anything like this in the article. He claims to have 'an early casting call sheet aquired by TV Guide'. He names a Capt. Jackson Archer, Lt Mayweather, Ensign Sato and several others including T'Pau. I don't want to stur up any crap but TV Guide is fairly reputable in the US when it comes to tv programs. I have a funny feeling that this is good info. 10 days ago in California the tv network with brand new shows gave the major companys that place commercials on tv casting call sheets to let them know the best programs to place there adds and comercials and one of these may have slipped out. Food for thought. Qapla'
One thing I very much enjoyed about the TNG premiere is David Gerrold had a monthly column in Starlog where he would introduce the new show, the characters, the ship, what has changed in Star Trek, etc. However, he didn't give away any of the details of individual episodes. My memory is foggy, (it was over a decade ago), but I'm pretty certain he started around January of '87. It'd be neat if Paramount could do something like that at startrek.com, though I suspect they won't announce anything till just after (or perhaps during) the Voyager finale.
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Okay, here's the scoop. The "casting sheet" was posted on the Web several weeks ago after being "released" by someone having to do with the show biz industry (unfortunately, I can't remember their job title, but they were "anonymous"). I do remember that the person didn't work for Paramount. I also remember that, after it was released, several industry people who weren't afraid to use their real names came out and said the "casting sheet" had not been distributed through the proper channels (like a good casting sheet would) and was most likely a fake.Quote:
Originally posted by KlingonZ:
You said that TV Guide is quoting 'ananymous reliable sources' and this was admitted by the author. Where did you obtain this information? The author is Michael Logan and he does not say anything like this in the article.
This appears to be the same casting sheet used by Michael Logan when he wrote the article for TV Guide.
However ...
After doing a little more research, I discovered an article written by Steve Krutzler for trekweb.com. He's been pretty much a doubting Thomas about the whole "prequel" idea, but after interviewing Logan he's now not so sure ...
To quote Krutzler:
"Having contacted and spoken briefly with the author of the piece Michael Logan -- who has covered 'Trek' for TV Guide for many years -- I can report that Michael is very confident in his sources and that Paramount did not confirm or comment on the story. The casting sheet that he refers to in his story sounded in our brief conversation like the same one that's been online for three weeks, but he did say that the document he acquired was not the same copy as the one that has been on the Internet for a few weeks, suggesting that indeed the sheet is real. In light of his sources and the fact that we know casting is in fact going on, he is very confident in its authenticity. Also, I have been in contact with some of TrekWeb's more traditional sources and word from one who works in and around the lot is that the prequel idea is legit. As surprising as this is to me, and as much as it could still be false in light of the forthcoming announcements from Paramount that will put all of this to rest, I can now officially say that it seems we may very well be looking at the real deal. 'Captain Archer', 'T'Pau', the whole gang. Unless there's some major misdirection going on, it appears all signs point to "prequel"."
His article was found at http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/200...985100764.html
So maybe the casting sheet is valid. Maybe not.
For what it's worth, here's the bulk of the info from the sheet:
Captain Jackson Archer: Early 40s. Physical. Bold personality. Intensely curious. Born and raised an explorer. Unlike the Starfleet captains in centuries to come, he exhibits a sense of wonder and excitement, as well as a little trepidation about the strange things he will encounter. He holds a grudge against the Vulcans, who he blames for impeding humanity's progress. But his science officer is Vulcan, and he's struggling to reconsider those preconceptions. Although he has a strong sense of duty, he's a bit of a renegade - he's not afraid to question orders or even disobey them if he feels in his gut that he's right... .
Sub-Commander T'Pau: Late 20s, early 30s. Vulcan female. Austere yet sensual. She's the Science Officer assigned to oversee humanity's progress on board Enterprise. Although she's cautious and guarded around humans, whom she considers primitive and irrational, she's developed a grudging respect for Captain Archer. She'll become one of his most loyal and trusted crew members. .
Commander Charlie 'Spike' Tucker: Chief Engineer. Early 30s. A Southerner who enjoys using his "country" persona to disarm people. He has an offbeat, often sarcastic sense of humor. Spike was hand-picked by Captain Archer, who is something of a mentor to him. Although Spike is a brilliant Engineer and an outstanding officer, he has very little first-hand experience with alien cultures, and he's often a "fish out of water" when dealing with new civilizations. .
Doctor Phlox: Exotic alien. Medical officer. Appears to be in his 40s, but we're not certain of his real age. Phlox speaks with a slight alien accent and has an eccentric sense of humor that no one quite understands. He thinks that humanity is fascinating. The Doctor has filled Sickbay with all sorts of bizarre medical instruments, alien plants and spores, and stasis chambers with small, living creatures. He practices a brand of "Intergalactic medicine" the likes of which we've never seen. This makes the most routine visit to Sickbay an unexpected adventure. .
Lieutenant Joe Mayweather: Helmsman. African American. Mid to late 20s. A unique product of 22nd Century life, Mayweather was raised on cargo ships. As a result Joe is more "interstellar" than even the Captain. He's travelled to dozens of planets and met many different alien species. Mayweather has an 'instinct' for space-travel that few humans possess. Joe's closest friend is Spike. Similar in age and spirit these two will spend their off-duty hours finding new ways to enjoy life in space.
Lt. Commander Malcolm Reed: Armory Officer. British. Late 20s - early 30s. In the new age of humanity's enlightenment, Reed is a bit of a throwback. He's a 22rd Century "soldier", all spit and polish and by-the-book. Reed is filled with contradictions. Despite his near-obsession with munitions, he's soft-spoken, shy and awkward around women. When testing a new weapon, he's liable to put on a pair of space-age earplugs because he doesn't like loud noises.
Ensign Hoshi Sato: Comm Officer. Japanese. Mid to late 20s. Striking and intelligent, Hoshi has a feisty spirit that often tests the patience of the crew. She's in charge of communications on Enterprise, but she also serves as ship's Translator. An expert in exo-linguistics, she learned to manipulate her vocal chords to emit a range of alien sounds no human has ever produced. She has a natural affinity for picking up languages. Hoshi doesn't like the idea of being trapped in a "tin can" hurtling at impossible speeds. Every time the ship jumps to warp she grips her console and closes her eyes. She's a "white knuckle" space farer.
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Silik: Late 30s to early 40s. Alien. Physically agile. One of the leaders of the Suliban, a deadly species obsessed with genetic enhancement. Our villain. [Note: Silik is described as a recurring character.]
Admiral Forrest: Human male. 50s to 60s. A career military man who's the highest ranking officer in Starfleet. He's fond of Captain Archer and has personally selected him to command Enterprise. [Note: Forrest and all further characters are non-recurring, and cast for the pilot episode only.]
Admiral Leonard: Human male. 40s - 50s. A high-ranking officer in Starfleet who serves directly under Admiral Forrest.
Commander Williams: Human male. 50s. A somewhat temperamental Starfleet officer who serves as attaché to Admiral Forrest.
Ambassador Soval: Vulcan male. Late 60s. A wise and arrogant diplomat who has very little patience with Captain Archer.
Tos: Vulcan male. 50s. Ambassador Soval's assistant. Shares Soval's disdain for human culture.
The article containing the full details so-called "casting sheet" released by an anonymous source can be found at http://www.trektoday.com/news/040301_01.shtml
Only the Prophets -- and Paramount -- know for sure at this point what's the real story ...
Enjoy!
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Voka a Bentel
(May you walk with the Prophets),
Eris
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"Rana naz’g ol resu ji joreen."
(It is the unknown that defines our existence)
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The Admirals Forest and Lenonard, along with Commander Williams made me rather suspicious of this casting sheet. DeForest Kelly? Leonard Nimoy? WilliamShatner? Seems way too cute in my personal opnion.
I'm no Hollywood expert, but do casting sheets normally discuss backgrounds of the characters? I would think it would be more directed towards the type of actor they are looking for and be targetted at agents. For example, why bother putting:
in a casting sheet?Quote:
When testing a new weapon, he's liable to put on a pair of space-age earplugs because he doesn't like loud noises.
(Note, I'm not shooting the messenger on this, I'm just suspicious of the message.)
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I'm obviously pretty suspicious myself -- for the very reasons you specified. That's why I posted the sheet's "details" -- so everybody else can draw their own conclusions!Quote:
Originally posted by Dan Stack:
(Note, I'm not shooting the messenger on this, I'm just suspicious of the message.)
Now for my speculation ...
By drawing on all the most persistent rumors out there, my suspicion is that the new series is going to be set in the far future aboard a time ship (29th Century perhaps?), and they'll visit the 22nd Century (give or take 100 years) during the pilot episode. Drawing on another rumor I've heard ... maybe they'll be there to stop a mad villain trying to stop the Federation from ever coming into existance. And maybe the series will be called "Time Trek" (since Berman said it might not have the name "Star Trek" in the title).
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Eris
Jabara Eris, thanks for the details on the casting sheet. You plot for the new series sounds more like a dynamite plot for the next movie. I would like to see series V based on Section 31, with a futuristic James Bond flavor, something new and different, with the Klingon Empire ruled by Chancelor Martok sprinkled in. (sorry, I am an avid Klingon fan, thus the nick name)
a warrior's blood boils before the fire is hot!
Reading the posting of the new series, kind of scares me.
It looks to me like Berman is attempting to kill Star Trek. It is difficult to be 300 years in the future and take the series back that far. Plus there are too many problems one is the technology, second is you want to see resolutions for all the unresolve problems in TNG/DS9/VOY.
I think the new series would be better serve if it continues or maybe a little into the future of the present series, and they focus on being fresh, interesting, and making ST controversial again.
well , one good thing will come of going back to the basics, they characters cant be saved by some super gadget, no mega warp, no transporters, gotta use the shuttle, make them actually work :-)
Dave
My friend has a gaming magazine that confirms it is a prequel. Personally I think it could be a rip-ff or non original series. Star Wars Epy 1 was a prequel, so they shouldnt copy. It could be interestig, but I'd like to see what's going on with the Fed, Klings, and rest of ALpha quad after Dominion war. Ill still watch since im loyal to trek, no matter how sucky it is.
I AGREE COMPLETELY! Going back 300 years is not very original to me. If this is true, and it is looking more and more like it is, then this will also be a step backward for Star Trek. I have heard additional rumors that in the first episode or two it will cover the first contact between the Federation and the Klingons. I think this would be very interesting but only because I am a Klingon Fan. But I was hoping for more like a continuation after DS9.
actually there has been talk of this series for about15 years, either the prequel series or the academy version
so its not copying Star wars :-)
but I wouldnt mind a new series, where its a smaller crew, in a small scout ship,
I know thats what Voyager was supposed to be , but the damned thig is a essentially a small battleship combat-wize
I wanna see a small crew 20 members no more, and a little bitty ship, where they are scared to get into a fight , where they actually have to think thier way out
Dave
In th new communicator Berman says that the new show will not be in the smae time period as TNG/DS9/Voy of course that could mean the direction goes either way.
More unsetteling is what he says about TOS, that is he feels the new show will niether keep content nor style the same. Will Style is obvious as you don't film a tV show like you did 30 years age but that Content part makes me a bit nervous.
I would like a prequel series, it would make the challenges more difficult and tense, I think. Making a sequel to DS9 would be boring I think, because it would only copy ideas which were already there. We have three Ship-Series and the base, what do you want to have new and original? They have to do something different if not to stop the sries thing. I think returning to the past is a good idea, it provides enough background infos for the fans ( everybody knows the foundation of the Federation and the like ) but they could explore and describe the details. There can be large scale battles and new ships, giving the "old" series like DS9 and the like actually more depth, they would gain a past and background.
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A prequel might be OK. I will watch no matter what it is, it will still be Star Trek and you bring up some good points about building a history provided they don't mess or change what is known now about the past as per ST Encyclopedia. What do you think about a series based on Section 31 from several episodes of DS9. A future James Bond type of series. If done right I think it would be very entertaining. Section 31 could have technology more advanced than the rest of the Federation. I agree that a continuation of DS9 would not work. What I meant was the timeline for the next series would begin around the end of DS9.
I just checked with Trekweb and the latest RUMOR is that Series V will be 150 years after DS9. It will be about the Enterprise 'I'. The first officer is a Romulan and Bacula will play the Captain. The Federation will be involved in a war and the new Enterprise will be a battleship. Thats much more interesting to me. They Have to throw in some Klingons.
Thats a few to-many Enterprises for my liking!
So over 150 years they lose E-E, E-F, E-G, E-H, and then build E-I!
Thats rather silly or bad luck!
But also remember the rumors that Series V was a prequel ala Birth of the Federation. And Series VI was the 100+ years in the future. Ever since that rumor was around a few months ago its been neglected in all talk since.
Rumors? Aye! But there is truth in them somewhere! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
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'...The Borg have stopped at deck 10...'
'...Deflector Control, no vital systems...'
Not a vital system! What the heck do you think stops the ship going 'poof' every time it goes to warp?
- ST:First Contact; Lt Hawk
E-I? E-I!?
Oh.
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As of a prequel, all I foresee are problems; we all know how the writers love to put new races, tech, and other unknowns into the series. The problem lies in that even with the longest deep space missions, of that time, the show will still happen in the area of federation space that we all know so well. Can we really rely on the writers to keep most of the unknowns to people, places, and things that we have already seen in the other series? Yes, first contacts are fun, but after how many times, does it get redundant. If we do see any new races, how are they going to explain their disappearance in TNG? They all died off. That’s good for one race… Another thought, how are the Klingons going to look? And lastly, call the ship something else, not “Enterprise” again. More then once, they have pictured all the ships with that name, all the way down to the sailing ship. Don’t change what is cannon, again.
Enough rant.
Makklor
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I don't know if it's the typical Hollywood style, but it does look like the kind of detail they put into their casting calls for TNG. Not, that this proves anything one way or the other, admittedly... http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gifQuote:
Originally posted by Dan Stack:
I'm no Hollywood expert, but do casting sheets normally discuss backgrounds of the characters? I would think it would be more directed towards the type of actor they are looking for and be targetted at agents.
Look at it this way. In 80 years they went from launching the Enterprise-B to Launching the Enterprise-E. B, C, D... that's losing a ship an average of every 26.6 years. Losing E, F, G, and H over 150 years is an average lifespan of 37.5 years.Quote:
Originally posted by SIR SIG:
Thats a few to-many Enterprises for my liking!
So over 150 years they lose E-E, E-F, E-G, E-H, and then build E-I!
Thats rather silly or bad luck!
So they're learning something. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
Hmmm. I guess the average is improving! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
But if its 100 years in the future then its more 25th century not 29th! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/wink.gif
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'...The Borg have stopped at deck 10...'
'...Deflector Control, no vital systems...'
Not a vital system! What the heck do you think stops the ship going 'poof' every time it goes to warp?
- ST:First Contact; Lt Hawk
Well from the old rumours of a 6 series it would start a bit after 5th not long after Voyager perhaps within 10 years and would have a tie in with the 5th towards the end of the series.
If I looked hard enough I could find the info.
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'...The Borg have stopped at deck 10...'
'...Deflector Control, no vital systems...'
Not a vital system! What the heck do you think stops the ship going 'poof' every time it goes to warp?
- ST:First Contact; Lt Hawk
If they think they can make a buck, they'll do it.Quote:
Originally posted by Cochrane:
What do y'all think are the chances that they'll keep going and do a sixth? Do y'all think it would begin before Enterprise ends?
What do y'all think are the chances that they'll keep going and do a sixth? Do y'all think it would begin before Enterprise ends?
think we'll ever get sick of Trek, or do you think in the 29th century Roddenberry Mythology will be right beside Greek and Roman?
It's got it's place in fiction history. Don't think it has quite the staying power of Greek myth, but you never know.
But yeah...I think people are going to get tired of it, if they keep putting out crap like the last series.
I think Trek will be around as long as they put out quality stuff. If series V is not good and the next movie is crap I think they will give it a rest for a few years. They thought of putting of series V for a year just for that reason, people were getting tired of it. What would you guys rather see based on the rumors? Series V, 150 years in the past or 150 years in the future. My vote is the future. That is if they won't do a Section 31 or a Klingon series.
KlingonZ Johnson is right!
Sorry, watched Blazing Saddles last night.
I agree with the future as the best idea. Though, a Section 31 series would be different.
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Originally posted by KlingonZ:
I would like to see series V based on Section 31, with a futuristic James Bond flavor, something new and different, with the Klingon Empire ruled by Chancelor Martok sprinkled in.
And that way, we can get Michael Dorn into it!
I can just see him, a few years from now at a convention. "Paramount owns my soul now...we had the ridges surgicly implanted to save time in the makeup chair every morning."
I don't think you would run into too many problems there, although from a fan's standpoint there probably would be a lot of "hey what happened to so-and-so?"-s but how many races or subplots that started in TOS never got finished in TNG? A few of the race/events survived but many of them have only been linked to future events through novels (e.g. the Doomsday Device portrayed as a device to fight the Borg, etc.).Quote:
Originally posted by Makklor:
As of a prequel, all I foresee are problems; we all know how the writers love to put new races, tech, and other unknowns into the series. The problem lies in that even with the longest deep space missions, of that time, the show will still happen in the area of federation space that we all know so well. Can we really rely on the writers to keep most of the unknowns to people, places, and things that we have already seen in the other series? Yes, first contacts are fun, but after how many times, does it get redundant. If we do see any new races, how are they going to explain their disappearance in TNG? They all died off.
I'm not disputing the point entirely, though. I know that Star Trek history had to be slightly rewritten for First Contact - although the pieces more or less fit together with the Canon history, you still asked questions like - "Wasn't Zefram from Alpha Centuri?" (Trek answer: He must have moved there later in life...)
As long as they don't throw any of the SW:E1 history rewrites in (I thought Yoda trained ObiWan...) I would be interested.
Assuming, of course, any of this survives beyond rumor.
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Philosophically, I don't really like the idea of going backward for a whole series... Then again, Voyager abused the whole time travel idea without being a time travel series.
Aside from the fear of not following the established chronology or established facts is going in the opposite direction. Following it too closely. One of the things I do fear is the potential "coincidental" nature of a prequel series. Oh we know that T'Pau is around during this time, let's throw her in. Oh we know that this ship was involved in this incident let's show that. It could be cool, but it could also seem too contrived. If it follows naturally from the plot, characters or premise of the show it is okay. If it is just to make the new crew look good, blah!
Think this one will be another seven year voyage? Shouldn't it be a five year one?
I think Paramount has a seven season thing with Star Trek. I think it began as a Rodenberry idea. If the show is popular enough to be renewed each year they only continue it for seven seasons to prevent it from becoming old or the same rehashed ideas in episodes or prevent it from being canceled.