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OK, Go HERE to see photos of the USS Defiant as it appears on an upcoming ep. of ENT.
I thought that this was very, very cool. Put those sets together with modern set-building techniques, and, AFAIC, they STILL look good!
Very nice. :)
Has anybody been able to decipher the builder's plaque in the last pic? I can just make out "USS Defiant" and "Constitution Class", but I can't read the dedication quote at the bottom.
I seem to have missed the pics......Anyone have them?
Looks interesting they have done this before on TNG's Relics, but I have to say good work. Will it make me want to see the Episode not really. But good job for special effects on Trek, but special effects does not just make the show for me.
Well, no. The pic you were looking at was a place holder. They only had the pics up for a limited time. (And, yes, I missed them too.)
I was curious as to whether they showed the interior, exterior, or both of the Constitution class Defiant. It'll be interesting how they stay faithful to the original design yet update it to modern SFX standards.
How are they introducing a design 90 years ahead of it's supposed launch?? *sigh* Coto seems determined to pay homage to TOS by screwing it over :mad:
"You want 'the truth'...You can't handle 'the truth":)
Get ready to hold yer noses:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/260105_01.shtml
Ice Giant, to answer your question: The same way "They" can have a ship that basically looks like a ship roughly TWO CENTURYS before it's time (no I DON"T buy that "It only looks like an Akira at ONE ANGLE"...hey, ignoring the positioning of the nacelles, it looks like an Akira at EVERY ANGLE...not to mention an energy-based deflection array, instead of a 'satillite dish'...but I digress)
IS THIS SHOW DONE YET!!!
The pictures recreated an extremelly realistic TOS set, down to the last wall pannel, representing the USS Defiant - the ship that was lost in the Tholian 'interphase' in a TOS episode (forget which one :)).
Unlike Relics, this was a thorough set, not a back wall :D
They are *NOT* introducing the design 90 years ahead of time, it was pulled into the past via the Interphase (apparently), so fear not, no akiraprise MKII, this is the original Defiant! :D
there were no external VFX shots shown no.
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Originally Posted by Tobian
In addition, the Defiant is thrown into the Mirror Universe, during the Ent. timeframe. Apparently the whole ep. will take place in the Mirror Universe... the ep. will even have "Mirror" titles at the beginning!
Sounds like fun.
It would be fascinating (as an intelectual excercise only!) to know what could happen to the timeline if the Defiant had gone into the regular past, and stayed there, radically upgrading Earths (or someone elses) technology. The Constitution class was massivelly faster, better shielded, and more well armed - and coud fry the Akiraprise in a heartbeat.... *evil thoughts* hehe :D
*Double sigh* It's just as bad as If they introduced it early. The mirror universe starts in enterprise now as opposed to TOS. Looks like they are taking all the "firsts" from TOS and retooling them for enterprise. I had some hope this season was watchable, as augments wans't bad but seeing what's coming up I just hope the rumors are true and they cancel it and give the franchise a break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Modem
And did anyone read the blurb about the episode "bound" they are mentioning the "Gorn Hegenomy". I am really tired of the way they are skirting "canon".
Out of curiosity, what's far fetched about this explanation? In "The Tholian Web", the Defiant was caught in interphase, but when the Enterprise and Tholians battled, the energy usage hurled the ship out of interphase (or whatever universe they were trapped in) to somewhere else? Why is the Mirror Universe any less likely than anywhere else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Modem
You're entitled to not like the show, but there's nothing off canon about this premise, and I suspect you're allowing your dislike of the show to prejudice you. Enterprise isn't my favorite of the series, either -- but let's not leap to conclusions.
Nothing canon at all claims the Mirror Universe came into existence as a result of the events in "Mirror, Mirror". And nothing in DS9 says that, either. So, if you are suggesting that the Mirror Universe didn't exist until "Mirror, Mirror", on what do you base this?Quote:
Originally Posted by IceGiant
Now, if you're suggesting that this episode might be unoriginal, well, judging by the last two, you might be onto something. I'm still willing to give it a look before I assume that, though.
I read that Coto thought a Gorn might make in interesting horror-spin episode, in the same fashion as "Alien", without anyone ever realizing what it was. But that's all I read. Again, I'll wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by IceGiant
So far, this season has been inconsistent in quality; it got off to a pretty good start, but has diminished a bit in recent weeks. So far, it's not as good as last season (which had its share of stinkers) -- but as of this moment, Enterprise still rates above Voyager on my ranking.
This show can't die soon enough...
Nothing worse than bad Star Trek being blasted out week after week.
No, what I'm refering to is the fact that the original crew knew nothing of the exsistance of the mirror side, not that it didn't exsisit at all. "Enterprise" consistantly seems to insert itself into situations where later on kirk & campany have never heard/seen of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balok
And this is what I was refering to. Simply not naming species from future shows so they can claim they havn't broken "cannon" is very weak. Instead of writing new material they fall back on the "unknown-future" alien of the week stories. It seems (to me anyways) that they are using Coto's liking of TOS as cover, so B&B can continue to do pretty much the same style of shows they did on Voyager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Balok
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Originally Posted by Balok
I will agree with you on the Voyager issue.
WORTHLESS NON-CONSTRUCTIVE THREAD HI-JACK !Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
(RANT)
OK, people, once again:
If you want to discuss the merits of the show, or the lack thereof, find a thread dedicated to that purpose and discuss it there. This thread, obviously, is for people who like Star Trek: Enterprise and is interested in its production.
If you don't like the show, that's fine. But I don't care if you don't. Like a lot of others, I am quite tired of some fans whining like 14 year olds every time the show is mentioned. . . especially when they're basing their opinions on incomplete information.
Wanna bash Star Trek: Enterprise ? Great ! Do it in the appropriate forum !
Everyone's entitled to an opinion; But, that doesn't mean everyone wants to hear it. And it doesn't mean we have to listen to it.
(/RANT)
And some of us don't need some other person coming along acting like an ass over an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezri's Toy
As for this....
My opinions are based on facts. Enterprise has regularaly disregarded canon material to tell bad stories.Quote:
especially when they're basing their opinions on incomplete information.
Again, like you, I don't care if you do like the show, I'm getting just as tired of FANS WITH NO TASTE, but I don't go around bitching about it or insulting others (Until now)
You like it fine, you want to tell everyone you do, fine.
Just remember, I have the same right to say I don't.
Remeber that next time before you go shooting your mouth off like an ass.
Well, if we're all done with that... :rolleyes:
It sounds as if some people are misunderstanding this episode. Unless I am mistaken, the "mirror universe" Enterprise episode sounds like it will focus entirely on a day(s) in the life of the mirror universe crew, with no cross-over or anything. Sounds interesting to me, and I'm hardly a fan of the show right now.
Oddly enough, I'm running a mission right now set in 2301AD involving a crew sent to recover the Defiant from Tholian space...so if anyone comes across any more refurbished Defiant photos, please, please, PLEASE post 'em. So I can USE them! :D
In fact, did anyone grab a larger photo of the Defiant's dedication plaque?
That's an opinion. Not a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
Sure, say what you want but say it in the right forum. This isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
And, BTW, since you wouldn't have the stones to call me an ass to my face, F*** OFF !
(Mr. Moderator, I'll take whatever consequences you feel are necessary because, in this case, it's worth it.)
Matt Edit: I censored the F word. I see no point in it being left. It serves no purpose to viewers of this thread. All it can be is offensive.
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Originally Posted by Ezri's Toy
Look pal, you tell me where, I'll be happy to say it to your face. I'm not a bullshitter like most people on the net are, you're more than welcome to drag your sorry ass to Canada, I'll even provide directions.
As for the "That's an opinion, not a fact" thing, sorry, but Enterprise has broken canon, many times. That is a fact.
There's no pleasing some people......... :rolleyes:
Manny Coto is a top quality writer, and I think he has saved Enterprise.
Why don't you submit some stories to Paramount if you can do better.
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Originally Posted by Setvenharis
He's better than they had, but he hasn't saved it. The show needs a great deal of help if it is to survive just not being cancelled at the end of this season.
If I thought submitting my ideas would help, I would, but let's face it, the chances of them using a script from an unknown is virtually nil.
No but you have crossed the line. Mods please make this thread STOP it has degenerated into a Flamewar! You do have it right.. TAKE IT OUTSIDEQuote:
Originally Posted by Silverstreak
Quite right, Tobian. I apologize to everyone except Silverstreak. My response to his insult definitely should have been sent via private message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobian
This Thread has been MODERATED!
This should never have got out of hand. And quite frankly it was a Thread Hijack come Enterprise Bashing.
The profanity only sealed this thread's doom.