Since Enterprise has been given the Axe, I wonder if anyone is going to care for these places anymore. I've had a blast creating new ships, backgrounds and rules for people to play with, but now with the main lines dead, Should I bother? :confused:
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Since Enterprise has been given the Axe, I wonder if anyone is going to care for these places anymore. I've had a blast creating new ships, backgrounds and rules for people to play with, but now with the main lines dead, Should I bother? :confused:
Don't be silly ! Startrek's been chancelled before - that didn't harm it, it grew one of the largest fanbases of all times :D
I think everyone is going to be reeling from the shock, but we all still play the game based on a set of series that were cancelled several years ago.. Very few people here actually play using Enterprise as their model.. They mostly use TNG/ DS9 - with a few bits from Voyager thrown in.. those series ended 4-11 years ago - yes TNG ended 11 years ago!!! We all still base it off a defunct series, so I am not too sure how things will change.. I guess in the long term there'll be no new blood coming in, but then again we have no idea what's going to happen in the long run.. I suspect there'll be no Startrek for a while, but it may well be resurected in some form on some channel.
Unfortunately, it was different time back then. The fanbase is so divided now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobian
I guess i'm one of the few that still RPs in 22nd century. I just happen to like the look and feel of that era. But then again it may not be resurrected and if it does its going to have its purist-elitist critics that'll bring it down. Some folks are just stuck in the 24th century :DQuote:
I think everyone is going to be reeling from the shock, but we all still play the game based on a set of series that were cancelled several years ago.. Very few people here actually play using Enterprise as their model.. They mostly use TNG/ DS9 - with a few bits from Voyager thrown in.. those series ended 4-11 years ago - yes TNG ended 11 years ago!!! We all still base it off a defunct series, so I am not too sure how things will change.. I guess in the long term there'll be no new blood coming in, but then again we have no idea what's going to happen in the long run.. I suspect there'll be no Startrek for a while, but it may well be resurected in some form on some channel.
Should you bother? Do you like Trek? Do you like to make up new materials for the game? If so, then keep doing what you enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BouncyCaitian
There hasn't been much new blood here over the past year or so, and I don't expect that to change. Trek RPGing is a small niche within a small niche (RPGing in general), so the market for new stuff is pretty small. However, that small market appears to be pretty loyal, judging from the regular traffic here and on Decipher's boards.
IMO, the bottom line is if you enjoy the game, keep with it whether there's an active TV series or not.
Amen! Especially considering I got into Trek RP when the only Trek we had was TOS reruns and movies every few years. (Hard to believe that was 21 years ago. Man, I'm old!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ineti
Yeah! And when I got into Trek RP, we only had the crappy blue FASA books to work with. We soon created a homebrew, years before ICON came out. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
--Another geezer Ineti
Yep. Same here. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ineti
I'm going to just throw my hat in with everybody else here and say there's no reason to quit working on Trek RPs just because Trek is no longer on the air. Especially, if you don't mind a little props, work as good as yours, BC.
As for the community... I'd say that with something as great as Trek was, and will continue to be because of its fans, there's really little to worry about. There will always be Trek fans, I think. Look at the Wing Commander community, that series has been dead for ages and they still maintain an active community complete with new or continuing fan projects/mods to other games and even an RPing community without there ever being a published RP line. (www.wcnews.com for proof on that, btw ^_^)
Just because a Star Trek TV Series is gone does mean Trek is dead. Sheesh, even divided we support our favorite shows in the Trek Saga. Make your stats and support your game. Post. I never came here to talk just my love of the shows and movies but my love of the RPG. I get alot of ideas from people. Keep in mind: Spike and Sci-Fi channel are still playing reruns. So enjoy.
Space Cadet, I'm not knocking people who like to play Enterprise era.. I'm sure there ae more of them out there, just not very visibly on these boards, however my point is that people STILL play RPG's based on dead shows - I.e. TNG, DS9 Voyager and TOS are all cancelled shows.. In the example of the first three there, they were given a fair crack at the whip and ended sensibly within their alloted time, however they are no more.. BUT it's fairly obvious from the heavy reference to them that they are not 'dead' in any sense of the RPG world... or any of the fanbases
I haven't even seen any of the Enterprise Season 4 that everyone's going on about, but more so than anything that's gone before I am more likelly to find a place for them in my future ark, than anything else on Enterprise.. and i suspect many others will too.. there's life in the old girl yet!
I hope this site doesn't end. (Though it has died down the past two years).
The first time I came to this site I was 12... now I'm almost 18.
Like many younger Star Trek fans, I've never experienced a very long time without Star Trek. Now, with Star Trek ending and The Animated Series being released on DVD, there won't be anymore new Trek for me, unless the proposed MMORPG gets of the ground.
Star Trek needs places like this to survive and grow. It worked after the original series (and that was before the internet).
Farscape is already gone (and I don't see anything in its future after TPW), Dune only lasted two miniseries, Stargate has worn out its welcome, and in a few years Battlestar Galactica will probably be gone too. I wonder, what, if anything will replace them?
I have to believe that enough sane people exist in the world to cry out for real television instead of reality TV. When that happens, Star Trek will be back.
Speaking as another "old geezer" on this forum, I have ot say that I'm also sticking around. Trek has been good to me in the 27 years I remember watching it, so, I can only be kind and continue to give the franchise my loyalty.
I plan to stick around and contribute as I can.
Are you serious? Ahhh...you Young Turks, who never knew a world when The Motion Picture and The Wrath of Khan were the only "real" Star Trek offerings in existence (other than that small-screen syndicated show with 79 episodes, about 40 of them good....)Quote:
Originally Posted by BouncyCaitian
If Star Trek didn't die in 1970, I rather doubt it will die in 2005. There's old plots to rehash, old starships to rebuild, cliched novels to be drafted, and brave new profits in merchandising to be had! And, along the way, there may even be some fun to be had.
Dude, try when only those 79 episodes and the Animated series was the only thing on...Quote:
Originally Posted by jkp1187
I'm old enough that my mom would sit my up to watch it on NBC back in 1967!
(Granted, I was only 3, but it looked very cool! And we were the only people around who had a color TV!)
Trek really didn't get "cool" until TNG... before that, you were the biggest dork around if you admitted you were a trekkie! And SciFi wasn't at all cool until 1977 (Star Wars and Close Encounters)!
You "young 'uns" have it too easy!
:D
*Remembers watch ST:TAS back to back with the Flash Gordon Animated Series*
:rolleyes:
Oh dear God, don't tempt me. I've become enough of a quivering City of Heroes addict over the past seven months or so; the absolute last thing I need is to have to opportunity to get on line and create a Starfleet Command-branch officer, working his way up from Ensign to the senior ranks. Scrapping Klingons...outwitting Romulans...heckling Tholians...must...shut down...pleasure-center...Quote:
Originally posted by Hirogen Alpha
Like many younger Star Trek fans, I've never experienced a very long time without Star Trek. Now, with Star Trek ending and The Animated Series being released on DVD, there won't be anymore new Trek for me, unless the proposed MMORPG gets of the ground.
Argh, I just know my willpower is not going to be equal to the test. CoH, a farewell in advance - if it ever comes about - but there is simply no room in my heart (or time in my life) for two loves. Star Trek: The MMPOG: kiss me, baby - I'm yours. :)
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Originally Posted by D.S.McBride
I'm right with you, D.S. :D Which CoH server, btw? (Victory here.)
Keep posting your stuff, BC. They are always interting reads and you seem to have fun creating stuff like that.
I have not been an ENT basher. I really didn't care that much about it. In one post somewhere in another thread someone stated that in the past a day would be reschedueld in order to be able to catch an episode, and that this simply wasn't happening any more. That's the exact way with me. Living in CE we're still far away from season4 (damn, I don't even know which season were airing just now). So far, I have not turned off the TV when ENT was showing and I happend to stumpble over it. That is behaviour that NEVER would have occured back with TNG. I still have friends who were mad at me for not coming out until the episode (tuesday at five) was finished. TNG captured me. ENT never did in the same way. I think I wanted to see more stories in the 2370s timeframe... But I'm quite sure, that in time I'll watch all ENT episodes. I've nearly completed my DVD based Babylon 5 re-run and although we have Stargate SG1 playing I don't see what some of you guys see in it. I can't cope with RD Andersons character.
Getting carried away here...
I'll stick to the Trek universe as I have for the past ...well... certainly 14 to 15 years. And I hope and pray that the next incarnation of the genre will be neither Starfleet Academy nor Klingon House of Honour. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Hugh Casey
That's a little premature, isn't it? :cool:
I'm probably a geezer, too...but I don't see myself sticking around here much longer, honestly. I love Trek, and always have, but I haven't had the chance to role-play in the universe in a long time...easily 10 or 11 years, and possibly longer. I've dabbled with some of the RPG stuff since then, but I've not been able to get a game together to save my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Tyger
So I don't have much of a tie to the gaming portion of my chosen fandom. Add to that Decipher's constant lies and mishandling of things, and the incessant negativity that permeates this place regarding my favorite of the modern shows, and this just isn't a very happy place for me. I'll be in and out, probably, at least long enough to harvest all the ships and species I've designed over the past couple of years, but after that...I doubt it.
I'm not happy here anymore, and I think it's time for me to move along.
Oddly, this might bring me back to Star Trek. That said, much like many others, I remember when there was only occaisional movies and FASA, and I still love it :)
I doubt the Trek MMORPG will go through, but I for one would be curious to see what comes of it :)
Amen and Ditto. As long as we remember the good times, acknowledge the bad (which is objective both), Star Trek will live. As long as we go to conventions (and other such community creating things) and show that there is a sizable and profitable fan base, products will come out (eventually).Quote:
Originally Posted by D.S.McBride
It may be 5 years, or 10 years, but those of us who truly enjoy the show will still be enjoying this franchise when the next incarnation comes to the small or big screen. But hopefully, when that happens, they will have learned from their mistakes, and listen to the fans. They need to remember that we are their touchstones, their rock in a stormy sea. Without us, they have no future.
Star Trek will never die. It has become this HUGE phenomenon. Yes, it will fade away from the mainstream (the same way the SW franchise will after the last movie) but it'll remain the king (like Elvis) of its genre. There is so much ST material, now easily accesible on DVD, to sustain ST viewing for a long time.
BTW me too I couldn't manage to get a ST game running even with a gun pointed at my head :(
I got into ST when TNG was into its 2nd season, and I used to hate the show- I was too immature I guess to appreciate its nuances. I really loved the movies like ST 2-3-4. Back then the RPG system was FASA and I got a group together and we played that thing (with the starship combat game) to death. I even had players who hated ST but loved the game (!) Aahhh those were the days...
Going back to ENT, don't they have enough shows (100?) to run it in syndication? If so I'd bet real money that the show will grow a wider fanbase ... maybe that was the idea in canceling it :confused:
I'm in for the long haul my own self, guys, trying as it may be sometimes.
You see, my friends, it has been a good five years since I've been involved in a Star Trek RPG session. Reason being? Most of the gaming people I know have more interest in fantasy than sci-fi, and when they DO do sci-fi, it's usually something fantasy-flavored like Dragonstar or Star Wars.
The last time I was involved in a Trek game was with the old Icon rules. An awesome, awesome time.
But that time has passed, and I can't get a Trek game together to save my life, at least not with a group of players who immediately ask how many phaser rifles they can beam down with.
Here's hoping I'll either find an existing Trek tabletop going on, or have the courage to wave the game around for potential takers in the future.
But I'll still be here. :)
^ Have you considered a play by post or play by email game? I've also had a real hard time finding enough Trek-smart players to run an effective game face to face.
Missouri's a bit of a commute for me to make a regular game. ;)
I think one reason Trek has a hard time with RPGs is that it's not all that conducive to 'party' play. The captain gives out orders which the crew obeys, etc - and they have fairly set jobs. Even in a good comraderie spirit, adventuring can get a bit more rigid than most gamers would like.
Not impossible, just a lot harder than Wing Commander or Star Wars where the people doing the adventuring are more-or-less equals. You don't often see Luke order Han to do something, for instance, and all the Wing Commander pilots (the ones actually adventuring) tend to be at or near the same rank.
It'd be a bit of a commute for me, even if I was at home in Missouri! :D (Kansas City is my hometown.)
Now, Lt Cmdr Matt has been trying to get a forum-based game together for some time now; so far, I'm the only person signed on. Anyone interested in playing some Trek should probably get a hold of him, either through this site or the FBR. :)
Well, I've been involved with a Trek MUX for a while, so I think that'll do me for now.
I guess I'm just really hankering for some tabletop. When I said I haven't gamed Trek in all that time, what I meant to say is that I haven't gamed PERIOD in that amount of time. :)
Dude me too, I was only one when it debuted in '66 but according to my parents, the minute i heard the opening notes of the theme, i was glued to the TVQuote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Casey
Well, what I will do myself (if I can find the time that is... :rolleyes: ) is dusting off my old campaign idea. And then see if I can lure some friends away from EQ2 and WoW, now when the their weekly Trek fix will dry out. :)
TrekRPGnet will be here, and so will I.