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West End also informs us that they are producing with Amarillo Design Bureau a D6 System book for Star Trek. The volume will be called D6 Prime Directive and is expected out in July. Subsequent sourcebooks are possible, although specifics are not fully confirmed at this time.
edit: apparently this is based on the Starfleet Battles universe based on discussion elsewhere
What if West End were to also get the license for True Trek? I hadn't quite thought of that specific possibility yet, maybe because West End wouldn't be able to afford it? With Prime Directive spreading out to multiple systems, would Paramount/ Viacom/ Nickelodeon even care anymore (if they ever did) if True Trek was in the exact same system as PD? It would be cool to have True Trek in the old Star Wars system. I actually remember seeing an old WEG Star Trek adventure game that looked like a quasi RPG once.
West End Games licensed the d6 System to ADB/Starfleet Games for Prime Directive RPG. Scott Palter, the original founder of West End Games and a new company, Final Sword Productions, is providing the d6 Stats for Prime Directives.
Moved to Prime Directive forum.
so why isnt Prime Directive considered "Star Trek"?
:) Ever hear of the Star Fleet Technical Manual? Apparantly the owners of Star Trek at the time didn't have much faith in the value of Trek, and made a stupid deal (for them any way) which gave Franz Joseph too many rights. He was able to sublicense elements of Trek for the Star Fleet Battles game, from which came the Prime Directive RPG. At some point there was a court battle defining these rights that the lucky guys could use elements from the Tech Manual but not actual specific characters from the show. They wound up being able to do stuff from the original series and TAS, but not the movies or anything outside of the 23rd Century.
Somewhere on my CDs are my Star Trek d6 conversions, based on a mixed universe (yes I know, me and my inability to run canon Trek :P ) I will try and dig them out and post them if there is any interest.
If it is like the old west end game star wars that is great . you can make up a character in ten minutes or so . You get roll lots of dice .
Of course. Which is why some of us dubbed d6 as the "bucket o' dice" system.
Yea, I'd like to see that Aslan!Quote:
Originally Posted by AslanC
Hello all .
It was a slow day at work . Here is my thoughts for WEG starwars phasers . Trek is higher tech than Star Wars from my point of view . On the shows phasers are used in many different ways .
The West End games Starwars 2nd edition is what i am basing the phasers on . I am skipping the tech-o-babel on how phasers work . The internet and other books has many views on this detail . A google search for images of phaser will turn lots and lots .
TOS era Weapon for W.E.G. Starwars RPG 2nd .
Starfleet Hand held weapons
Phaser type one
Character scale
damage range
+3 – 3d+1 / 3-10 30 60
setting modes
stun , prolong firing
power cell = 20 charges
Phaser type two
Character scale
damage range in meters
+3 – 6d / 3-25 50 120
setting modes
stun , prolong firing , pulse and area effect ( stun only )
power cell = 50 charges
Phaser rifle
Damage range
low power (character scale)
2d – 8d / 3 – 75 200 500
hi power ( speeder scale )
1d – 4d /10 – 500 1,000 2,000
setting modes
low power – stun , prolong firing , pulse and area ( stun only )
hi power - prolong firing , pulse
power cell = 200 ( hi power shots x3)
prolong firing cost one extra charge each round of combat . The shooter still has to roll to hit . The first round of combat no extra damage but the second round one extra damage die , third round adds two dice and so on . No extra charges are paid for added damage .
If you fire a phaser on prolong mode for 5d . it cost 6charges each round . First round will cause 5d damage , 2nd will cause 6d , thrid will cause 7d but still cost 6 charged each round . You have to roll it hit each rounds .
Pulse mode makes to easier to hit . The cost is one extra change . A shooter can take one or two dice from damage and add to hit roll .
Area stunning is one meter per each dice . The stun damage is cut in half . The range is out to 30 meters . One extra cell for this mode settings.
one charge is spent per dice of damage or +3 . other setting have change cost to them .
Wait a minute. Isn't there already a new version of d6 released last year? It may differentiate from WEG-Wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by toadmage
Final Sword Productions is doing PD D6. It's headed by an ex-WEG staffer and he posted on the D6 list that he would be using the metabarons version of D6 which is essentally 2nd edition/2nd edition revised.
And Reg, yeah West End did put out a new sysytem, It basically uses the old D6 mechanic but adds the adds/disadds from their masterbook system. They released it in 3 genres. Adventure, Fantasy, and Space.
So how much of the Metabarons material (is that line still continuing?) are now in the new d6 System, mainly that book called d6 Space?
Will PD6 be a standalone, or will you be required to have WEG's d6 Space rulebook?
From what I've seen, REG, it will be a stand alone game. You shouldn't have to buy anything else to play it.
I wonder if that is a good thing for WEG, unless they gave up on promoting their d6 Space rulebook, and just billed a much higher royalty payment to ADB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimace
Well, since it's not being put out by WEG specifically, I don't think it's a matter of what game is being billed for it. The subsidiary company of Final Sword Productions will be the company putting it out, and they have the clearance to use the D6 system. With Final Sword getting the go-ahead to do the Prime Directive conversion to D6, it's up to Scott Palter to decide how best to do it and which "version" of D6 he wants to focus on. He could use the new D6 Space, but at the same token, he had nothing to do with D6 Space. He's had more to do with the old Star Wars D6 and some side ventures with Psibertroopers, as well as a hand in some of the Metabarons stuff, so he's probably going to go with what is more familiar to him, rather than to what is best for WEG, which he is not really a part of.
Hopefully that clears some things up.
Perhaps, but WEG must have some say regarding the use of their rules system in PD6 during the licensing negotiation. I'm just curious as to what the WEG's state of [business] mind regarding this matter ... not that I'm overly concerned about the state of their business. ;)
Scott has mentioned on the list that the release date is June 2005 and that he was going to use The Metabarons version as it was what he used in Psibertroopers. That may change in the coming months but that's what was last mentioned by him.
I don/t believe WEG had any say as he is a licencer from them. So as long as he abides by the agreement he has with WEG in regards to the use of their system, they would have no say in what "version" he would use as he was the one that got the PD licence.
That's my opinion and my impression from the way scott has talked about it, and that Niki (the line developer for the "new" D6 system) hasn't said anything contrary on the list.
But that's the thing. What sort of agreement he has with WEG? What's WEG incentive for allowing PD6 using their rules system as a standalone core rulebook, rather than being a "GURPS-like worldbook" supplement to their own d6 Space that came out last year (which if I believe what I have heard on the internet, they didn't launch well as expected, sales-wise)? Higher royalty payments? If so, how much will that passed onto their customers in the form of the increased retail price per PD6 book?Quote:
Originally Posted by IceGiant
"The Metabarons and the Metabarons logo, Humanoids Publishing and the Humanoids Publishing logo are trademarks of Les Humanoïdes Associés S.A., Geneva (Switzerland), " from West End Games website. As the original West End Games had problems keeping up with royalities to Humanoid that Humaniod acquired them from bankruptcy and merged them with Yeti as D6 Legend, Inc. It is therefor highly unlikely that they will relicense it until Purgatory Publishing, Inc. gets some what stable and has some history behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by REG
This is interesting. I didn't know the d6 system was still around. I had heard that it and West End were dead.
The original West End Games has been gone. The 2nd was D6 Legends, Inc. DBA (doing Business As) West End Games then sold the WEG to Purgatory Publishing, Inc., which is again DBA West End Games. Purgatory Publishing is now having trouble causing him to put WEG IPs up for sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by ds9guy
Now that ADB has gone throw several writers for Prime Directive D6 and now have put the project in limbo pending resolution of WEG sale.