Hiding from Katrina with relatives off to the west of the storm. Hopefully I'll still have an apartment and a worklace after tomorrow.
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Hiding from Katrina with relatives off to the west of the storm. Hopefully I'll still have an apartment and a worklace after tomorrow.
Stay safe. Hopes and prayers.
Keep safe, CL... our thoughts are with you guys down there.
Hang tight, Cybrludite. Thank goodness Katrina lost some steam and turned east before she made landfall. The winds along the western eyewall of a Catergory 4 are something like an order of magnitude less intense than those along the eastern eyewall of a Category 5. The potential for catastrophic damage is still there, but the likelihood and severity will both be much less than they could have been.
I just saw an image from New Orleans this morning, it's a lake now. Cybrludite, dude stay safe please. Same goes for anyone's friends or family near there.
80% of the city is underwater, up to 20 feet deep in parts. The High-Rise (I-10 over the Industrial Canal) was smacked by a barge in one of its main supports, and they aren't sure if it's structually sound. Uncertain if the Causeway is sound. The Twinspans (I-10 over the Lake) are GONE. :eek: The Southern Yacht Club burned to the ground. 3 large ships aground. Oil tanker aground and leaking. Major levee breach at the 17th street canal. Both airports are underwater. All of Slidell and most of Metairie are under water. Many gas leaks, several of them are burning. We're pretty much FUBARed.
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Amazed at the amount of damage down there!. Stay safe!
Phew just watched that, that's some nasty stuff that happened there. it's always tough not to go into false sentiment, but mywishes go to everyone, and my condolences. I wonder if any of the board members who rarelly frequent the boards are there right now.. if they were i severelly doubt we'd here from them from a while.. Internet is probably not a priority for government right now!
Glad you made it.
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Damn. That sucks. Stay safe and take care, everyone.
Alex
I'm still numb from the stuff I've seen on TV. Having been to Africa, I know what you see on TV doesn't prepare you for how bad things are over there, so I'm certain the stuff on TV simply can't convey what it's like on the Gulf Coast either. Godspeed to all.
Power of nature. It's always awe-inspiring.
I'm more pissed about the enviro-people exploiting it for political capital.
I watch the images, and it's almost unreal: We live in this mindset where WE are the masters of our domain, and only OUR daily concerns matter.
But then we are given a reminder that we are not the masters, but just another part of the whole, and that, in the blink of an eye, what was most important to you (the big car, that new tv, landing that big promotion) becomes an insignificant abstraction.
Just this morning, safe in my little world, I have see scenes of utter destruction, crushing saddness and the baser urges of survival. But also, I have seen bravery, compassion, and, despite the increasingly bad news, hope.
and black campbellq is right; everyone IS exploiting this for their own agenda. Rather than using our hands to 'point the finger' at each other, better to 'lend a hand' and help our brothers and sisters out.
Enviros... weren't they against building the big wall around New Orleans that might have prevented this devastation, because it might have disturbed the hairy-chested toad or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by black campbellq
And the looters.
@#$%ing looters.
Well, okay, I can understand somebody going into an abandoned grocery store for food in this situation, and maybe a drugstore for medicine, because there's no where els eto get that, and it keeps you alive.
But these SOB's running around carting trash bins full of electronics and TVs and crap...
And any more comments I have on the issue might drag the thread into the part of the board I can't access. Bleah.
Yep there's a difference between the poor guy taking some bottled water from a wreak of a convinence store to taking a 27 in TV from a Walmart that was otherwise left untouched by the storm!
My cousin who use to live in Mandeville, which is directly across the lake from New Orleans has been in contact with people from Tameny Parish and who she use to live around and they told here that for the most part Mandeville did not flood but got hit hard by wind, in fact the house she and her family lived in had a tree fall ontop of it spliting it in two :eek:
All pryors and wishes to those directly involved in this disaster. Have strength, have courage and above all have each other.
Yeah, but to be fair, the feds also cut a bunch of dough to a levee upgrade the Corps of Engineers were going to do. Guess the money was needed in that bloated piece of $#!% highway bill....$286 bil. So much for the Reagan & Gingrich-era cheap GOP.Quote:
Originally Posted by First of Two
The gas prices are already too bloody high, and that's where the enviros are really in the thick of it -- this disaster's really gonna hit me next week; helping a friend move from PA to NM. Gas is going to be ridiculous. If the feds would override these stupid multiple formulations of gas, so we can get economies of scale and shipment of gas from one place to another, that would help; the reason for this? Enviro-nuts. How about some more friggin' refineries? Oh...can't build those. Why? You guessed it. Here's one...take the bloody gas taxes off for a while. Oh, certainly can't do that! Why, that'll probably clear up the budget deficit, at these prices.
Looting for TVs and jeans, then proudly proclaiming "this is the People's store now"...I shoot 'em. But food that's going to spoil, medicines needed? I'll look the other way. The insurance claims should cover it. (Ain't that gonna be fun for the whole family..?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstof Two
If it's too expensive there, I suggest people come to the UK to buy their petrol or Deisel, it's really cheap here! :D
Well having got stranded myself when we got hit by a freak lighting storm last night, I can empathise a little, though waiting 3 hours for a Metro is not quite the same as having your neighborhood float away!
You'll be glad to know that they have wavered the gas formula requirements for the time being. On the not so good side, order appears to be breaking down worse than the levees did. I'm reading reports of mass desertions by the NOPD. The 5th Precinct building is under water, and their cars are flooded out. They're using commandeered U-Hauls for mobility. C^3I for the NOPD has reportedly broken down. It's going William Gibson there, fast. There's even reports that refugees in the Dome have tried to set the place on fire.
The latest I've heard is people firing on the rescue copters!
Ok, so they want to stay in Atlantis? Fine.
Being in the convience store business, with a my nose to the net for news, I'm hearing some pretty scare stuff.
I've heard opposite ratios of damage to those refineries; 90% or 10%, your pick from your source. I've heard a 'doom and gloom' rumor that at our current rate o consumption we have a month, maybe month and a half of gas left.
Rumors of rationing, of shortages and outright outages.
And, with our current climate of 'you cant trust the people in power or the media' it's hard to tell which of these are true and which are lies.
Oh, on the 'twilight zone' front, the "Coast to Coast With George Norry" show had a psychic on a while back. He predicted that August 28-29th thousands will be displaced from thier homes in the US.
He also predicted similar evacuations for the END of Sept.!!
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/08/29.html
Quietly sitting at my office desk, with no more pressing concerns than how to duck out my day's work or find a new job, I don't think I could be able to think of the right words to say and I'm not sure there are words to say...
I heard somewhere that there were not only looting problems, but also rapes : have any of you heard anything like this ?
Yes, it was reported by Fox news as something that happened I think at the New Orleans' convention center. Some guy was raping a 13 year old and he was shot and died from the wound. Other than that I nothing else reasonable confirmed, but seems likely given everything else that is going on. Like a group of contractors going to help fix the problem came under gun fire luckly they had police escort and the police returned fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by C5
I talked to some folks who're staying w/ a cousin of mine's family in Baton Rouge. They stayed in the Ritz Carlton in the Quarter & reported two shootouts between hotel security & armed looters who somehow snuck into the hotel.
I'm back at work at Ochsner Hospital. (Largest reminaing functional hospital in the city, I might add...) Lots of helicopters in the area. Armed National Guard troops are guarding the place in addition to our rent-a-cops. So far I've seen UH-60s (Blackhawk, Seahawk, Jayhawk, and Pave Low variations), Chinooks, a Sea Stallion, and a pair of Sea Kings in VIP squadron colors. (HC-2, I think) It feels moderately weird now to be more than two steps from one of my loaded firearms. Here's hoping the NG troops know their stuff. I'm not thrilled to have my security in someone else's hands. :p
Hey dude! Glad to hear you made it. We had minor problems here in BR by comparison. My daughter has been hosting Rebecca and Ragnar (Area 504) and all twelve of their house cats, as well as two other friends. It's been a bit crowded... Our house has been computer central as everyone has been using it for people searches, dwelling searches, and the interminable scanning of satellite imagery of the Gulf Coast.
Rebecca and Ragnar's place is on Victoria, just under the bridge out there in the industrial area. Based on the satellite imagery, the house is intact and dry (as is their Civic Hybrid parked out in the street), but did have an unknown amount of water. Unfortunately, their place is surrounded by flooded areas. They won't be able to go in there anytime soon.
Larry Dixon is in Baton Rouge with aid from Oklahoma. He'll be taking Jerre and Maxi back with him (among a few others).
For those of you who don't know these people, I'm talking about New Orleans and Baton Rouge SF fandom. We have our own little network of survivors here! Thanks for bearing with us. :cool: