None of the SRM's show what the ships look like. Is anyone working on fixing this little over sight? It would be nice to see what the ships look like form the dorsal, side, etc.
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None of the SRM's show what the ships look like. Is anyone working on fixing this little over sight? It would be nice to see what the ships look like form the dorsal, side, etc.
A lot of the pictures that you are talking about are copyrighted. The question is how many pictures can you place in the publication, and still be safe under the fair use clause?
Also the issue of non-canon designs tend to vary in appearance.
Just a thought, maybe we could talk to TFVanguard and have him add his wonderful work?
I've been working on some Romulan designs on-and-off...
I would be willing if Steve Long's cool with it. Remember, this would mean redoing and altering his original documents. (Which I can do... but I don't want to do it without his permission.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix
An alternative would be to create a separate document that just presents each of the schematics in the same order they appear in the SRM. Since the pdf means we don't need unity of the document for all information, I'm sure this would work out better...Quote:
Originally Posted by TFVanguard
To quote Sean Connery: "Yes... YES!" :D
I was also kind of thinking of a fold-out section like to old FASA SRM's. That way we have the scale to eachother.
But then again, there are alot of webresources for a great portion of the vessels. Only a few are missing images to go along with the written work.
True, but they lack consistence. In style, quality, and design. If we use a uniform art style of high quality and a constant design concept It would look a lot better.
If someone is prepared to do it it would look much better if they had pics. Yes there are images available, but it's not the same as they aren't laid out on a page, and don't match. That could be one hell of a project for someone though! EEK
I am mostly intrested in the non cannon design ships. Altough to have all in a doc would be cool.
Hi folx! Sorry I've been absent for so long, but Real Life is keeping me busy, and it doesn't look as if that situation will change anytime soon.
Some points to consider:
1. There are no illustrations of the non-canonical vessels, except where I found concept art for the show in a magazine or other resource and used it as inspiration. (And offhand, several years after the fact, I'd be hard-pressed to say exactly which ships those are.) Most of the ships would have to be drawn from scratch. I have no objection to someone doing this, but it's a lot of work.
2. I'd just as soon the documents not be altered to include any images, particularly copyrighted ones. Paramount seems pretty understanding about that sort of thing, but as a publisher myself I'd just as soon not do that.
3. The idea of a separate document with images sounds like a good one to me, though again a lot of work for someone (or several someones).
I hope all your Trek gaming is going well. ;)
i found the picture of the niagara class in the book price of freedom fit very well to the sequoia class.
the picture is wrong for the niagara class but is very close from SMR 1 description
http://steve.pugh.net/fleet/images/LUG_niagara.jpg
for niagara class i prefer use this pic : http://steve.pugh.net/fleet/images/F..._starboard.jpg
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kalamaro, le poulpe du net
Well, the 2nd pic has the advantage of actually being the Niagara that appeared onscreen. There's enough unidentified Starfleet ship designs that they could probably fill in visuals all the mentioned names without too much difficulty. Things like the Klingon and Romulan SRMs would be more... complicated...
One of the things I did was to look up some of the schematics online and just label and print them and add them as an appendix on the end.
Places like the Daystrom Institute;
http://www.ditl.org/ (pleased to see that old link is still going strong).
or Starship Schematics
http://www.shipschematics.net/ (woohoo 2 for 2, who needs an old defunct favourites list).
These are OK for the canon vessels, and as has been pointed out, not nuch help with the concept and brand new designs...
So while I agree, I think that as an additional document to the SRM, possibly with a page showing the vessels in scale to each other sounds like a really good idea.
The other problem is whether many of the non-canon SRM designs will look bizarre once you draw them. Steve had examples in mind with many of them, I think, but I'm always skeptical of anyone's ability to explain things diagrammatically with prose.
Here are some excellent sites for ships, especially non-canon stuff:
http://ex-astris-scientia.org/
http://www.trekships.org/index.htm
http://www.starfleet-museum.org/index.htm
http://trekmania.net/
All the above have some great images both canon and non. All are good resources for those hard to find images that aren't BIG renders.
Also check this site out:
http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/
Good FASA site.
Semper Fi, Carry On