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John Byrne announced several weeks ago he's doing a one-shot book for IDW's Star Trek line. Today he released the cover sketch for the book.
http://byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploa..._CoverBase.jpg
And the finished in color:
http://byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploa...CoverColor.jpg
For those anti-byrne people move on.
Yahooo! I was wonder what he was up to these days.
Say what you want about Byrne as a erson, he's a great artist. (And one of my favorites...)
*wistfully pines for the original Byrne run of Alpha Flight*
Personally, my first introduction to the man was the "Man of Steel" mini-series back in '86. Although my favorite Byrne work was the OMAC b&w mini years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaconteurX
when I was in line for an autograph instead of signing my autograph book (just a sprial notebook); he said that would not do and pull out an issue of Danger Unlimited and signed for free. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
I have them except 1 I think. Yes, those issues are gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaconteurX
My intro was Alpha Flight and perhaps X-Men as my brother subscribe to those series. The Fantastic Four was the first of his work that I owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
That's great news about Byrne doing a Star Trek book. Can't wait!
My introduction to Byrne was through the Uncanny X-Men. Then I saw his work in Alpha Flight, Superman & even Iron Fist if I recall correctly. I also liked his Next Men series.
I still fondly recall Byrne's thirty-five issue run on Uncanny X-Men, which was comics gold (the Dark Phoenix Saga!) even though he and collaborator Chris Claremont couldn't stand one another. Byrne's tenure on Alpha Flight was a mere twenty-eight issues, but that remains one of my all-time favorite series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/u...-pg04sneek.jpg
I first read his stuff in X-Men, later on Fantastic Four.
Page 11, Sneak peek.
http://byrnerobotics.com/forum/uploa...-pg11sneek.jpg
Few more pages for those interested...
Nice.
There's some nice artwork in there, and I have no opinion one way or another 'cause I have no idea of the context of who these people are LOL. Kinda reminds me of some of the artwork in the ICON books.
...Um..Romulans....Balance of Terror...I know Byrne admits he doesn't do likenesses very well but hopefully you know who at least two of the people are.
Byrne will be doing another Trek book, no information so far what it is, though hints that have been dropped it might be what happened after Amok Time or Assignment Earth.
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/u...0655_Sneek.jpg
hmmm....interesting
Sadly, he IS a great artist, but he chooses not to be one. I believe his heyday was the x-men, and his last great work was his silver surfer one-shot. Since, he's slipped into being a hack, more or less. Ipretty much told him so at a show about 10 years ago. Anyhoos, that being said, the sketches here have nice composition- he does have talent- but, then I'm disappointed with the finishes (he discovered zip-a-tone back in the 90's, and he uses it to save time drawing...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Burke
Save time from drawing what?Quote:
Originally Posted by UFC465537
In these instances, the textured fabric of the romulan uniforms. zip-a-tone is a press and peel sheet artists use to save time drawing repetative (sp?) shade lines and textures. notice on the romulan uniforms, no matter what position the characters are in, the pattern never changes. he discovered this time saving technique somewhere between The Man of Steel and his Submariner series, and has abused it ever since. big deal? no, but very disappointing from a comic artist legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tatterdemalion King
I know what it is... and I also know that drawing all of that is a. tedious and b. not really something that needs to be done anyway. I think it was Stuart Immonen who said that the comics artist is under a time crunch no other artist is; they have to do thirty-odd pages a month, each of which contains an average of four to six individual drawings. On top of that is understanding what is the key visual information you need to convey; you're not representing something in a picture, you're composing in a language. And in this language 'flat pattern' is reconstructed into 'pattern on clothes' as easily as a hyper-busy fully-contour-mapped uniform would.
And you can totally see the patterns scale with distance.
Again, not a big deal, I'm just disappointed with him overall, and not just this particular series of work. Compositionally, it's okay. He's done better, he can do better, he just chooses not to. Just my 2 cents, if it's worth 2 cents.
Um, bit of information. Byrne has hardly used zip-a-tone since his runs on She-Hulk and Namor ended. Also the look of the Romulan book was done in Photoshop, no zip-a-tone was used at all.
And personally I believe everyone is so stuck on his "old stuff was better" b.s. that they don't give his new stuff a chance, or realize that the stuff they're praising is the "new stuff" that came out after that phrase came about. And "hack" or not I can count on two fingers the books that Byrne has worked on that has shipped late. He does his work ahead of time and his work ethic would put any of the new batch of artist that Marvel uses to shame. And on top of keeping up with his books he's been able to do fill-ins for Funky Winkerbean and commissions for fans.
My apologies- Photoshop, then. IMO, it doesn't really change anything. Pretty much anything he's done after Alpha Flight has degenerated. I might have to concede on Next Men, but I didn't look at it much. If the Romulan sample art is any indication of his current work ethic, then my opinion still stands. And me, personally -- and maybe it's just me-- I'd rather wait for something of quality than get crap on time. Anyways, we could go round and round like this for weeks. I apologize for stirring the pot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoshuro
People still call it ziptone, cause 'little dotty things' isn't as catchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoshuro
All those posts, while possibly valid opinions is exactly why I posted that in the very first message. If you dislike Byrne so d**n much don't open an obvious thread titled "Byrne & IDW" that talks about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoshuro
AS BrianC can tell you I stopped coming here for years. Thank you all for reminding me exactly why I did.
As far as I care this thread, and this site is dead to me.
Shoshuro, I think you're overreacting a little there. The point about a forum is explicitly to DISCUSS, not to simply make statements, and close the thread, or have an agreeing session! I also don't think anyone's criticisms have been harsh or unobjective. To be honest putting up a disclaimer on an open forum stating "agree with me or else" is like a red rag to a bull for some members, and as i said goes against the general principles of fora!
Both Romulan series kicked @$$.
HA!
"why are we yelling?"