favorite nontrek science fiction survey

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03-22-2001, 12:33 PM
Cochrane

favorite nontrek science fiction survey

Asimov. It seems that most of his works took place in the same universe. I read the 12 Robot City books in jr. high. I started reading Foundation, but it somehow bored me.

Clarke's Space Oddysey series. You know, 2001, 2010, 2061, 3001. The only one I read in written form was 2061, but I did see the two movies.

Card's Enderverse. The only one of these I read was Ender's Game. I'd put Card as my favorite sci fi guy, Asimov's replacement. I hope the movie happens.

Quantum Leap. I hated some episodes, but the premise was good and the best of it was very good. Bakula would make a perfect Trek captain. I wonder if his character would be a singer.

Time Trax. Many of you might not remember this one. The main character was visiting the present from the future hunting down criminals. I never saw the pilot.

Stargate. I did not have parasitic relations with that Goauld! I am not a crook! I'd make this the third of the big three in onscreen sci fi.

Star Wars. Second only to Trek.

Seven Days: I've enjoyed it in the past, but I don't like gritty shows.
03-22-2001, 12:42 PM
Sarge

Right now, my favorite SF (space opera, really) books are David Weber's Honor Harrington series.

On TV, Andromeda is showing promise. The first season is already much better than first season TNG and 90% of Voyager.

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03-22-2001, 12:50 PM
Cochrane

I like Andromeda when I watch it, but what I hate is Earth Final Conflict. And of course, you could say Star Wars is not science fiction either. Would Captain Proton be more Space Opera as well?
03-22-2001, 03:32 PM
Cochrane

d'oh! How could I forget Galaxy Quest? http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/biggrin.gif
03-22-2001, 04:04 PM
Dan Stack

Media - Babylon 5 by a mile. I'm also enjoying Andromeda and Farscape when I catch it (not too often of late). Every once in a while the Doctor Who mood hits me.

Written - The Foundation and Robots novels by Asimov and the Dune series by Herbet brought me into SF and I still enjoy them. I also enjoy Jack Vance, Frederick Pohl, and Alfred Bester. I enjoy some Card (esp. Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead), though I sometimes wish he'd go for some more three-dimensional characters - I like compelling villains with motivations I understand and heroes with some flaws. I've just begun reading the Pern series and have so far enjoyed it.
03-22-2001, 04:16 PM
Cochrane

d'oh! I forgot Back to the Future. I'm serious this time, as if I wasn't about Galaxy Quest. I really classify BTTF more as SF than comedy. I wonder how feasable novels would be detailing Doc's first trip to the future and his time in 1885 before Marty showed up. And just what did he mean by "Nope, already been there?" Alternate universe anyone? And when Marty first returned to his present, did his parents remember and recognize him from 1955? Maybe that's why it's considered primarily comedy.
03-22-2001, 05:31 PM
qerlin

d'Oh! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/wink.gif

How could I forget Farscape!?!
03-22-2001, 05:42 PM
Cmdr Powers

I'll chime in with another vote for Honor Harrington as well as other David Weber stuff. Apocalypse Troll is a treat!

I'm a dyed in the wool Heinlein fan.

Stargate is cool. Farscape is cool. Andromeda might be cool- maybe. LaFemme Nikita was techno enough to have an SF edge. And I really like Dark Angel.

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03-22-2001, 05:44 PM
Cmdr Powers

Oh yeah, another vote for Pournelle's universe of the CoDominion as well. Did you know that Bjo Trimble invited Jerry to play D&D with her once upon a time? Jerry intended to take a recon team from the 42nd, equipped with silver-tipped bullets for the rifles, holy water, etc. The game never materialized, but I had a chuckle reading over Falkenburg's 'orders' to the recon company.

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03-22-2001, 08:50 PM
Phantom

Also how could I forget Starship Troopers, the Novel not the movie.
03-22-2001, 09:03 PM
AslanC

OKay here goes;

TV: Farscape (I just love this show...each episode drags me in further and further until I have nothing left for any other show).
Battlestar Galactica (Not for what it was, but for what it could be).
Buck Rogers (I love cheese and that was au gratin).

Film: Slipstream (If you haven't seen it go and rent it now).
Enemy Mine (Great classic sci-fi story).
Last Starfighter (Greetings Starfighter, you have been recruited by the Star League to defend the Frontier against Xhur and the Kodan armada).
Tron (Classic "what if" type of movie).

Books: I am not that much of a Sci-Fi reader, though there was this book I read when I was a kid, it was called "The (blank) Incident". It was about these cadets undergoing a graduation exercise on an arid world when the enemy attacks and destroys the Academy. Then the two students (and one teacher I believe) make their way to the poles to try and radio for help (there is a base camp at the temperate polls). I cannot for the life of me remember the name of this book...that said if anyone out there remembers I would be for ever grateful as I have been looking for it for years and have had no luck thus far.

Oh and DUNE, just cause it is so intricate.

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03-22-2001, 10:55 PM
Kaiddin

TV: Babylon 5 (People have become ill listening to me quote Zathras)
Battlestar Galactica, Andromeda, Farscape, Buck Rogers.

Movies: Star Wars, Pitch Black, Enemy Mine, Stargate (Liked the movie - Can't stand the series - Sorry guys), Dune, Predator.

Novels: Man-Kzin Wars, Mote on God's Eye, Honor Harrington.
03-23-2001, 12:20 AM
qerlin

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaiddin:
TV: Babylon 5 (People have become ill listening to me quote Zathras)
Battlestar Galactica, Andromeda, Farscape, Buck Rogers.

Movies: Star Wars, Pitch Black, Enemy Mine, Stargate (Liked the movie - Can't stand the series - Sorry guys), Dune, Predator.

Novels: Man-Kzin Wars, Mote on God's Eye, Honor Harrington.

Is okay, kaiddin. No one listen to Zathras. Not even when someone talking as Zathras. So no one get tired of Zathras. Excepting, perhaps, Zathrus. But no one listen to him, either.
03-23-2001, 12:21 AM
qerlin

And how the heck could I forget 'Mote in God's Eye'?
03-23-2001, 01:10 AM
Phantom

My favourite non-trek universe is Pournelle's Co-Dommimium series, specifically Falkenberg's Legion (I'm more a fan of military Sci-fi).

When I can catch it I like Andromeda. SG-1 is my current favourite sci-fi series on tv...Keep forgetting when Farscape is on, do want to see it however.

Of course we cannot forget B5, I agree the acting wasn't all that good at times, but still it was an excellent series. I do have a tendency to "forget" about the 5th season, however...Man that was bad.
03-23-2001, 01:27 AM
copernicus

TV/Movies: B5 (I do greatly dislike Season 1, but I did like a lot of Season 5). I liked Crusade, and eagerly await the Rangers series. Andromeda has a lot of potential as well though whether or not it realizes that potential remains to be seen.

Books: Asimov was the greatest, for me. As for writers still producing books, I liked Peter Hamilton's Neutronium Alchemist and related books, though I was a bit disappointed with the ending. Great super-tech. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif

Pat
03-23-2001, 01:43 AM
qerlin

Babylon 5 -- hands down, for me, the best sci-fi show to date. Also was really enjoying Crusade.

John Varley's Titan series -- great fun. Can't stand his other stuff, strangely.

Hardwired, by Walter J Williams.

Pretty much anything by Bruce Sterling.
03-23-2001, 02:31 AM
AslanC

Isn't it weird how the mind works?

I sat here at my computer reading everyone's posts and then in the back of my brin a voice said "The Vandarian Incident". I went to google and did a search and found the author of the book, who has re-named it "The Day The Sky Exploded"

So there ya go, my favorite non-Trek sci-fi book! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif

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03-23-2001, 10:36 AM
Lolth-org

Wow all the stuff I have read or watched over the years. Man I have even endured wannabe B sci-fi movies. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/wink.gif
So for the media category, Definetly Quantum Leap.(I would have picked ST but that was too damn obvious

For the Movie category, envelope please,(sound of a quiet drum roll) Alien.

And for the books, (rustling in the new envelope), it appears to be a tie. Any of Heinleins pre 70's work of fiction, and the Sten series by Chris Bunch and his buddy Cole.

(sound of a drum crashing through a window)

Ok, who unchained that monkey. (wanders off forum)

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03-23-2001, 11:44 AM
Kaiddin

I can't believe I forgot to put Aliens and Alien on my list! Dohhh! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
03-23-2001, 02:55 PM
Christian

Books - Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion are the best Sci-Fi I've ever read. For a great bad guy you just can't beat the Shrike!

Bolo. Hammer's Slammers. Starship Troopers (NOT THE MOVIE!). World in the Balance by Turtledove. Startide Rising.

Movies: Pitch Black was surprisingly good. Loved the Predator movies (and hope they someday do the proposed Alien Vs Predator movie!)

Games: the Star Control series was as fun and as interesting as any 'serious' novel.
03-23-2001, 04:55 PM
Dave

I really like the Weird Science and Weird Science/Fantasy comics, reprints from the 50s and 60s. Those are some of the best comics ever.
03-23-2001, 06:53 PM
Aldaron

Let's see...

Movies: The Star Wars series (yes, including Phantom Menace!!)
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Several orders of magnitude...
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Alien, Aliens, Pitch Black, Stargate, 2001, Contact, The Abyss...

TV: Babylon 5 (except for most of Season 5), Stargate SG-1 (love that show! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif)...ummm...I've just realised how much of my TV sci-fi viewing is Trek!!
Would X-Files count as sci-fi?
I've only seen one episode of Farscape so far, and it was pretty bad, but I have to see some more to make a better decision (after all, if I'd just seen TNG's "Justice" I'd have never watched Next Gen either!).

Books: Anything by Arthur C. Clarke (esp. the 2001 series), haven't read much Asimov, but I loved "Nemesis". "Contact" (Carl Sagan), just about anything by Alan Dean Foster.

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03-23-2001, 10:38 PM
Kaiddin

Movies: Does Wizards count? http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
03-23-2001, 10:49 PM
Liquidator Queeg

I'm not a fan of many Sci-fi TV shows (Trek aside), but I'd have to pick Red Dwarf and Doctor Who as two of the best.

Movies favs include Alien, Star Wars, Hardware, Total Recall, and 2001.

Book favs are Childhood's End (Clarke), Solaris (Lem), Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (Dick), and Heroes and Villains (Carter).

Steve
03-23-2001, 11:12 PM
Kaiddin

Ack! Also forgot Bladerunner, Soylent Green, Omega Man.....

I give up! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Kaiddin (edited 03-23-2001).]
03-23-2001, 11:17 PM
Phantom

Well, Kaiddin since you rattled off two of Charlton Heston's films why not Planet of the Apes. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif The original wasn't bad. Looking forward to the up coming re-make.
03-23-2001, 11:31 PM
Liquidator Queeg

Oops! I left out a movie, too: A Clockwork Orange.

Huzzah!

Steve
03-24-2001, 12:37 AM
Rottwang

Hello, All, from a newbie!
My favorite non Star Trek universes are Star Wars, Fascape, Babylon 5, Dune, Logan's Run, Planet of the Apes, Zardoz, the Well of Souls books by Jack L Chalker, and many more.

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03-24-2001, 11:54 AM
Hugh Casey

In no particular order...

TV: Farscape, B5, The Twilight Zone (to this day the finest written TV series EVER produced), Buffy (maybe not SF, but WHO CARES! After the episode "The Body", I'd have to say that this has turned into one of the best TV shows ever!), The Secret Adv. of Jules Verne (I'm a big Victoriana buff), Futurama.

Movies: Star Wars, 2001, Blade Runner (Probably the best SF film, narrowly beating 2001), Planet of the Apes, Alien(s), X-men, and of course, Forbidden Planet (it's just cool).

Literary: Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Bradbury, Card, Baxter, and Spider Robinson (if you've never read his "Callahan's Crosstime Saloon" stories, run out and get them NOW!).

Hugh
03-24-2001, 12:42 PM
qerlin

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaiddin:
Ack! Also forgot Bladerunner, Soylent Green, Omega Man.....

I give up! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Kaiddin (edited 03-23-2001).]

DOOOOOOHHHH!!!!!

Too many movies! Must...get...to my...VCR... ack! (expires)
03-24-2001, 08:23 PM
Kaiddin

Quote:

Originally posted by Phantom:
Well, Kaiddin since you rattled off two of Charlton Heston's films why not Planet of the Apes. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif The original wasn't bad. Looking forward to the up coming re-make.

Hate to say it but the apes movies would make my B list but not my A list.
03-24-2001, 08:49 PM
aaarrrgggghhh

Movies: You might hear it bashed quite often, I would say the old Dune movie. While it wasn't that great of a translation of the book, it worked rather well on its own. The Last Starfighter, The Matrix

TV: I watch Farscape every once in a while, but my favorite show is definitely Red Dwarf. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif

Books: Ender's Game, Dune, Fahrenheit 451, The Postman, Starship Troopers, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, Hitchhiker's Guide books, A Clockwork Orange, Sphere, The Andromedia Strain, and several others.

Also, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the dysutopian trilogy; 1986, We, and Brave New World. Them's some good readin'!

Most of these have already been said, but I figured I might add something. http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
03-25-2001, 12:41 AM
heikki

Books: Asimov's Foundation, Dan Simons Hyperion-saga, and one Finn author. You don't kniw him...

TV: Babylon 5
03-25-2001, 01:04 AM
Gaunt_Man

Here are mine:

Movies: Star Wars (best sci-fi ever!!), Dune, Matrix, Blade Runner.

TV Series: Umm... Does Futurama count? ( http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif) I would like to say Andromeda, but while I actually like the characters and actors (yes, even Kevin "Hercules" Sorbo!), I really, really, really hate the plots!!

Novels: Neuromancer (yeah, I know it's cyberpunk), various Arthur C. Clarke novels, uh... Don't really read sci-fi novels that much anymore.

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03-25-2001, 04:24 AM
Tarbas

My favourite three Science Fiction movies or series are:

1. Futurama
2. Dune (the books and the movie)
3. Blade Runner

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03-25-2001, 05:12 PM
Phantom

Saw Farscape lastnight for the first time. I have to say I think it has potential. Just wished the Peacekeepers were in the ep. I have a tendendcy of favouring the villians in a show, and I think this be the case here as well.

Looking forward to AEGs Farscape RPG.

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