First full view of the redesigned Enterprise is up.
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I don't... hate it :D Kind of has some of the style of the Ralph McQuarrie designs for the Phase II enterprise, but the forward deflector bulb looks a little... hmmm...
It's still got to grow on me but it's not too bad actually! :D
Im' not too sure about those 60's retro design nacelles. One problem I do see however, is the seemingly style change between the primary and secondary hulls, it looks a little like two ships attached.
I want to see the ship at other angles first, before I can state my exact feelings.
But I realised that Karl Urban reminds me very much of Friend's Joey Tribiani.
It has a truly funky quality that reminds me of that great ad for the Original Series DVD sets. It could be the tricked-out lowrider pimpmobile of starships, with some metalflake purple paint, leopardskin seat covers and a pair of fuzzy dice hanging from the helmsman's station... :D
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
That's exactly how I feel. If I put my hand over the primary hull, the rest looks super nifty. If I blot out everything apart from the primary hull, it looks much like the movie enterprise. The two together just look - odd. Don't hate it but I think I need to see it from some other angles.
Renny
I think it needs more badunkadunk in the trunk.
So the Saucer appears to be a direct lift of the movie era saucer, but the struts, nacelle and the engineering hull are completely redone . . . they do look stylistically different in so many ways . . . I would like to see more . . . but if this is anything like the iBridge . . . I will have by doubts coming in. Still going to watch it though.
well....that's definitely a jarring look. Not bad. but different
I can't help thinking this Enterprise looks very modern, like a more angular Sovereign, but mabe it's just the quality of the pic that gives me this feeling.
I plain & simply don't like it.Really dislike the nacelle design. Seen it on several designs & can't stand it.
Oh you did not just say that!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tatterdemalion King
I don't like it at all. As much as I love Trek and want the franchise to continue, I have yet to find a shred of hope in anything I see of this "reboot" (in fact, I'd settle for something that doesn't make my stomach drop). An interesting quote from the article under the picture of the ship (emphasis mine):
"If you're going to do Star Trek, there are many things you cannot change. The Enterprise is a visual touchstone for so many people. So if you're going to do the Enterprise, it better look like the Enterprise, because otherwise, what are you doing?"
This looks like the Enterprise how? In the same fashion that the Excelsior, Ambassador and Galaxy class "look" like the Constitution class? It takes a little more that saucer, struts and secondary to "look" like the classic Enterprise.
If you're going to do "new" stories, then do it; but this Battlestar Galactica-esque steal all the names and crap all over established continuity drive me insane. If these writers are so superior to those who have gone before, create your own characters and ships, and have at it.
I agree with Carlson.
I remember when TMP came out and the Enterprise had been changed. It made me wonder a bit, but then I thought the changes looked right... as in, new technology and design.
Anymore, as these writers re-vamp old Trek (i.e. this movie, or even the Enterprise series), it seems they take the 'new' technology back with them and make it available.
I do not like what I am seeing either.
Oh well.
The more I see & hear of the new Trek,the more difficult it is for me to get enthused to watch it.It also strikes me funny,how people drew sabers & phase cannons over the changes done in Enterprise,but they look at this faux 1701 & the things that made TOS Star Trek & think their almost the greatest thing to happen to Trek ever.Friendships were strained & some ruined over Enterprise but not over these changes.
Haha... seriously? : PQuote:
Originally Posted by WarriorKnight
As Tomcat says, the progression from TOS to TMP makes sense; I have no problem with progress, but retcons, especially needless ones, drive me insane.
I didn't mind the premise of Enterprise or the look of the ship (as a Trek RPG fan from long ago, I thought it was cool to see an almost-Loknar hit the screen). I can even overlook the "phase pistols" being a little too soon technology-wise. My only major tech-problem was the transporter, but even that was a minor point. What really cheesed me off about Enterprise was the ham-fisted treatment of continuity and the "cash-in" factor of the franchise that suppposedly was being held at arm's length; the Ferengi and the Borg being the two most glaring examples. The shame of that series is that there was no real effort to mesh with continuity until the show was already cancelled; season four, you're late!
Some of the disconnects could still be explained away by the intervening 100 years, but this new movie flies directly in the face of established stories.
I will just have to wait and see like everyone else how badly it stamps on continuity. From the premise, it likely won't actually, and I am looking forward to it! :)
Ok, I've heard a few people toss around hints about the plot of this movie, but somehow I've missed any synopsi (maybe its a subconscious mechanism, like I'm repressing them).
So, can anyone tell me a good place to get the dirt on this film?
www.trekmovie.com has plenty of information. Just look for the posts marked SPOILERS.
I'm following the furor over on the official Star Trek movie forums, and one guy who saw the trailer says that the publicity shot doesn't do the Enterprise justice. He says that the ship looks so much better in action than in that single image.
http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/...ead.php?t=4072
I won't be able to see the trailer 'til it comes out on the web this weekend (since I have my girls this weekend....just can't take them to a Bond flick... ;)), but the initial reaction is encouraging.
Assuming the Trek trailer is attached to QoS in Canada, I'll be seeing it tonight...
EDIT: although I can't confirm that it is, I know it wasn't attached to the midnight screening last night....
You probably want to call ahead to the theater. I learned today that the trailer is playing on only two of the three screens at my local theater.
Well, I RSVP'd to the fbook invite for QoS before I knew the trailer might be attached, so it's not really my primary motivation for going. That said, there was no Trek trailer, as I expected. I was also spared the indignity of being reminded that they're degrading another of Moore's comics...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Tyger
The movie itself will probably be regarded as a middle-of-the-road installment in the Bond franchise.
trekmovie.com is reporting the same thing about the trailer.
Oh and the posted this beautiful comparison omelgation:
As you can see the Saucer is very much TMP, as is the deflector dish. The secondary/engineering hull has been moved forward, thus creating a look where the deflector dish is several meters forward of its original position, and the end appears to tapper to a finer/smaller portion on the back end. Makes me really curious on how an aft shot looks, and how much attention they have placed on the only shuttle bay.
As we can all see the Nacelles and the struts attaching are COMPLETELY original, and I am curious to see where the dorsal nacelle mini ruddervators are, as the perspective does not show them clearly, if they are there at all.
One noticible lacking detail, or maybe I don't see it are the docking ports on the saucer and the secondary/engineer hull.
The neck looks a lot more heartier/larger than the TMP and the TOS models.
The livery is not given as much prominence as on the TOS or even the TMP models.
I'd love to see a silotte comparison. The ReO (reboot original) (or has some other three letter designation been given for this model) appears to be a lot more stout, shorter.
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The more I see it, the more I get desensitised, and the more I like it :)
Can't wait to see that trailer when it's out! :)
I just saw the trailer.Still have not increased my liking of the movie,it actually decreased my opinion of it.Really think Urban should be playing Gary Mitchell.He looks & sounds like Lockwood.The effects were nice(what they showed.).The bridge shots made it look like the Excelsior bridge from TSFS.The Conn was as wide as the original bridge overall.It may have the name but its not Trek.I'll got to see it,& may like it but its not Star Trek.I afraid though if people got out to really support this vision of Trek we'll be stuck with it till someone at Paramount decides the franchise needs another shake up & we'll get something completly different,that looks even less like trek.On the other hand if it dosen't do well Paramount will pull the plug on the franchise.
Damned if you do,Quote:
Originally Posted by WarriorKnight
Damned if you don't.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by JALU3
"It's dead, Jim."Quote:
Originally Posted by WarriorKnight
"No! The Aesthetic Reboot! We have to try it! It's the only chance we have!!"
[He slaps KIRK.]
"Get a hold of yourself, man! He's DEAD! Do you want this to turn into a Russell T Davies Who situation? Do you? A gutless self-indulgence shambling around with pretty special effects covering the cardboard soul? Let... it... die!"
[KIRK turns away, to grieve. MCCOY looks at him, then slowly walks out.]
[FADE OUT]
So Apple is now hosting the HD versions, no more shaky cam for me.
I agree. Too bad we won't get to see Gary in the film, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by WarriorKnight