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Hey Styro, When is your game set
A couple of ideas
Maybe the hijackers are Founder's-Dominion Rouges
Ferengi-ala Rascles
Orion Syndicate
Just a few ideas
Karg
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How about somebody like Section 31 using this incident to subvert the Federation?
Turning Earth-paradise into a Xenophobic/Orwellian nightmare or some such.
How about including ex-admiral Leyton and his co-conpirators which are due for release from the New Zealand colony in 2385. He gets out on probation early and begins his master plan for revenge.
His days in the penal colony have convinced him that the only way to secure the federation is to lose the vestiges of democracy and "renew" itself. He writes a book along the lines of "Mein Campf", detailing a plan, which includes the complete extermination of the founders and any species which may have helped them.
His co-conspirators believe themselves martyrs for their secure federation and steal a newly refit Galaxy-Class and as you mentioned take out the entire top of the gov't.
Thereafter, he comes to power in a brilliantly orchestrated election scam which see's him get to power with massive support. (He buys support from some worlds and makes sure people loyal to him "count the votes"). He officially had nothing to do with the attack on the federation and his platform deals with security and stopping acts of aggression vs the Federation.
This was the idea I had in mind for my own campaign, but since last month's events I'm considering dropping it. Hope this helps, I'd like to hear how the whole thing turns out.
Hi Styro and Liz
How about a unit of Jem'hadar suicide troops (like there is any other kind:)) have a Obsidian Order Keldon class vessel. This vessel was captured during the attack on the Founder's home rock, complete with working class 10 cloak. This vessel was brought to Cardassian space for upgrading to Dominion Specs and sent slowly into Fed Space to wreak havoc in the core. After wars end they think its a trick and stay near earth.
As for the Saucer theft thet should be easy to work in from that.
Oh yes remember Dominion transporters have a 3 yr range hint hint:D
How about disgrunted citizens of worlds occupied by the Dominion during the war.They hate the Dominion, but they also hate the Federation for abandoning them to the Dominion - I didn't say they weren't crackpots (and only crackpots would make such a suicidal attack anyway).
Then with the Federation government in disarray the radicals seize control of their homeworlds and declare them independent from the Federation on the basis that if the Federation cannot defend its homeworld how can they defend other member worlds (as an added twist there could be simeltaneous strikes against Starfleet Command in San Francisco and a similar decapitating strike on Vulcan). As the Federation is based on the principles of freedom and self-determination, the secession must be recognised. The radicals then seize all Federation bases in their systems and some Starfleet vessels defect after their secessionist crew members "mutiny" and take control of them and bring them home.
EVIL DEMENTED GM: Hey how about we pack the saucer section with a bio weapon and scatter it as we enter the atmosphere (can anyone say Babylon 5).
COMPLETELY EVIL DEMENETED GM: How about Bajoran religious fanatics who oppose the entry of Bajor into the Federation and see the Federation as an even greater evil that the Cardassians - this may be going a bit too far - no flame mail please.
FEDERATION REACTION
Depending on the scale of the attack, the Federation would be thrown into disarray. I suggest that Section 31 acting to "protect the Federation" throws the rulebook (if they had one) out the window and they engineer Admiral Ross's election as president (he's a war hero after all) and begin a reign of terror to supress dissent and perhaps even civil war as they try to force seceeding planets back into the Federation.
Of course who knows - did Section 31 provide the command codes to activate the saucer and shut down Earth's planetary defence systems? Or did Betazoid extremists knock out the entire defence network with telepathic strikes...
WHAT A SET UP.
How about former Maquis disallusioned by the Federation during its pre war fight and the subsequant witch hunt that Starfleet conducted against them before the war. Their tired and for the most part have nothing left to lose or gain but the simple idea of revenge against the foe who they now feel is at fault for their situation. They would have the skills needed to pull this off and mabe even the allies still in starfleet to do it. Maybe their even aided by the remnant of Hughs Borg who have their own axe to grind with the Federation, especially anything remotely connected to the starship Enterprise and Picard such as a Galaxy class saucer section
After the attack Lyton does indeed rear his ugly head and takes advantage of the situation which now presents itself against the various Borg freed from the collective, the Founders & Dominion and Cardassians,
Oh thats nasty using Betazoids, I grew up there. We are such a nice, warm compassianate people Who will beat your brains out with our A'kai if your not nice to us. Sorry its the war.:eek: :D
How about a group of changeling, (or group of changelings) replace a few of the enlisted engineering crew (and conn officers) who covertly work together to change the ship's course, lock out the command codes for the staff, leaving the science officers / computer core officers to the task of recovering the codes, regaining control of the ship before it's too late?
A heroic act on the part of the crew (and maybe a few bystanders) to save the day!
I think Perryyy hit the nail on the head. It's perfect! The changelings infultrated before this, why not again???
Wouldn't such an act be constituted as an act of war on the part of the changelings? The treaty they signed stipulated they would no longer engage in hostile acts against any gov't in the Federations quadrant.
It does have its merits though, I see the Romulans being a more likely suspect if you need to use an enemy gov't. They "brainwash" several crewmen, make sure they are assigned to the Sol system and are made to crash their ship into the federation. Like what they made Geordi Laforge do through his VISOR.
Just some thoughts...........:)
Crashing a Galaxy saucer into the Fed presidents office will also wipe out a good part of Paris, and likely irradiate more of it.
Where's the Terran government, Paris?
What happens to United Terra if the world government is gone, revert to member states?
In the original post, we didn't know what era it was in. I assumed Post-DS9. Barring that, I'd go with the Romulans, or..Quote:
Originally posted by Lt.Khrys Antos
Wouldn't such an act be constituted as an act of war on the part of the changelings? The treaty they signed stipulated they would no longer engage in hostile acts against any gov't in the Federations quadrant.
It does have its merits though, I see the Romulans being a more likely suspect if you need to use an enemy gov't. They "brainwash" several crewmen, make sure they are assigned to the Sol system and are made to crash their ship into the federation. Like what they made Geordi Laforge do through his VISOR.
Just some thoughts...........:)
Gul Dukat. Through some obscure twist of fate or Bajoran Prophecy, he escapes his fate in the fire caves & seeks revenge against the Federation (or Sisko is sent to stop him?) The Feddies, still weak after the war, have their guard down in SF. Dukat decides to wreak a little havok against his old foes.
What about using a inside terrorist orgnaization, seeking to disrupte the Federation and wanting to see it all fall apart...dissembled...secretly they wre finanched by the Tal Shiar for years, and now that they are no longer so, they acted out one madman's grand plan of terror...
This prevents a foreign war and allows for enemies around every cornor paranoia :)
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Can a convicted felon (I mean treason is a serious charge) be a candidate for election as President?
Also what's this about Layton getting an early release, for what he did he should get the death penalty. Yes I know the Federation's past that sort of thing but just over 10 years imprisonment? Treason is usually a life sentence without parole...go figure I always said the Federation was soft on crime...
All of the Federation's major enemies act rationally... except Dukat.Quote:
Originally posted by Perrryyy
In the original post, we didn't know what era it was in. I assumed Post-DS9. Barring that, I'd go with the Romulans, or..
Gul Dukat. Through some obscure twist of fate or Bajoran Prophecy, he escapes his fate in the fire caves & seeks revenge against the Federation (or Sisko is sent to stop him?) The Feddies, still weak after the war, have their guard down in SF. Dukat decides to wreak a little havok against his old foes.
He is the best candidate for this, along with some of his pagh-wraith worshiping fanatics.
Umm... have the Powerpuff Girls on the space liner? That quote was from them, right?Quote:
Originally posted by StyroFoam Man
As a nasty twist, the GAMBLER will be sent on several missions such as "Blow up Vulcan Space Central, It has been taken over by the "bad-guys..." It'll be intresting to see how long it takes for them to begin questioning orders.... "But that crusise-ship is full of puppies, floppy-eared bunny rabbits, old ladies, children and ice-cream!!!"
Any more story ideas?
The Federation allows people who have served their time to run for office, he is supposed to have repaid his debt to society. I agree with you Ghosty, they are too soft on crime.;)
As for Dukat being unbalanced, I always thought that was due to the death of his daughter, Ziyal, at the hands of Damar.
As a further story idea, if the crew of the GAMBLER begins to ask questions, they could be assigned to patrol the neutral zone, to "prevent any unforseen threat from the Romulans". Just so they get out of the way, this in turn may allow them to garner some support in the frontier worlds who see Leyton as a threat while the Core Worlds see him as a savior. He disbands the federation council, many councilors have "accident" and core worlds are occupied by "security forces". Leyton then pronounces himself, Emperor or another grandiose title and rules with an iron fist...
All I got to say is.........evil.........I sense much evil ahead:D
These are all very good ideas, Better than mine
Karg
Then the border worlds can, with help stage a revolt and break away from Leyton's Federation to form one of their own. That would probably divide Starfleet. Worlds like Betazed and Benzar would resent a repeat of the occupation they suffered during the Dominion War (because that's what Leyton will be doing) and then there's the perenial wild card, the crew of the USS enterprise they'll always interfer. I know they didn't the last time but that was a situation confined to Earth, they may have been too far away, but in this case, its a Federation wide crisis, and well Picard will stick his nose into this one.Quote:
Originally posted by Lt.Khrys Antos
The Federation allows people who have served their time to run for office, he is supposed to have repaid his debt to society. I agree with you Ghosty, they are too soft on crime.;)
As for Dukat being unbalanced, I always thought that was due to the death of his daughter, Ziyal, at the hands of Damar.
As a further story idea, if the crew of the GAMBLER begins to ask questions, they could be assigned to patrol the neutral zone, to "prevent any unforseen threat from the Romulans". Just so they get out of the way, this in turn may allow them to garner some support in the frontier worlds who see Leyton as a threat while the Core Worlds see him as a savior. He disbands the federation council, many councilors have "accident" and core worlds are occupied by "security forces". Leyton then pronounces himself, Emperor or another grandiose title and rules with an iron fist...
All I got to say is.........evil.........I sense much evil ahead:D
The only problem I have with this type of storyline is what about the Vulcans. Vulcans are logical and not driven by emotions like fear and definitely cannot be manipulated emotionally. The Vulcans could probably figure out what's going on and well given that they have a tendency to be do-gooders, put a stop to it. Vulcans are probably the most influential members of the Federation with the best diplomatic corps available, they could cut Leyton off at the knees if they're not taken care of first. But I'd like to see a "security force" occupy Vulcan...
Interesting point Ghosty...very good points. How about these two options:
1) Vulcan government see's a merit in increased security, but demand that the force to safeguard their world be only made of Vulcans. Logical solution given they would wish to also not have emotional and irrational commanders on their planet running things.
2) Leyton see's that any psionic empaths and telepaths could foil his plans and sends out an edict that all psi users be captured and placed into re-habilitation to make sure they have not been corrupted by Vorta mind control techniques. This of course is AFTER he has removed the pesky council and 'sissy' do-gooders like Picard.:D :D :D
The councellors at Leyton's penal/rehabilitation colony should be fired. Sounds like they did a worse screw-up here then they did when they decided to let Garth of Izar out of his cell.
I mean, Leyton was misguided and wrong and I'm certainly no fan of his. But I never suspected he was capable of all this!:rolleyes:
Seriously though, great brainstorming. Don't forget external forces. Such a big mess is ripe for interference from the Romulans. This sort of thing is just their cup of tea.
I can see a spin-off re-occuring plot element: a stupidly incompetent penal colony councellor. Most of the staff sincerely works hard to re-habilitate wrongdoers, using superscience social tools to show criminals the error of their ways. But there's some bozo who keeps stamping "cured" on the wrong document, and sends the timid reformed purse-snatcher to a deep dark cell for life (labeled: "Warning - might break the Federation, cause a genocidal war between Coms and Yangs, create a Natzi planet, or at very least space the penal colony crew. Do not let out.")
I think everyone's jumping the gun here. I don't think one little incident like that can topple the entire Federation government at one swoop no matter how much fear there is and I agree with Diamond that all this may be beyond Leyton - he's misguided but this would make him a bigger monster than Hitler.
I suggest that you avoid using Leyton in this way. he was a tragic character who did what he thought was right but this...is far too much...
Umm..Ghosty, the little insignificant event would be the death of the president and numerous chiefs of staff. It is easy for a "misguded", crazed some may say, individual to take advantage. That's what Hitler managed to do in Germany, an economically devastated Germany was willing to do anything to get out of the slump.:( Hitler didn't start as an evil mastermind, he wanted to be an artist in an Austrian Academy and was refused. Point is: Why wouldn't Leyton be mentally unhinged at being "betrayed" by his starfleet friends who imprisonned him for trying to help the federation?(I like the idea of him being released before he is supposed to be by an incompentent psychiatrist, preferably a PC.)
Now, as for using Leyton, I guess its just to add a little continuaty from the series to your games. It could be anyone, its just easier(and sometimes more fun), to re-introduce a character who appeared on the show. Up to the individual narrator I'd say.;) Technically, I still think that Leyton would think he is doing the right thing.
Countless countries have had their gov't's replaced in a blink of an eye by demagogues, this is the weakness of a democracy. An admired leader, potent speaker able to convince through fiery speeches are individuals who can sway crowds of people whoever they wish. Leyton could be such a person, a good guy who was corrupted by the evil side, who gives fiery speeches during his campaign for presidency give a type of Fallen Hero aspect.
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>This could give me a chance to pit the GAMBLER against one of her sister-ships.... The up-rated USS BAD MOON RISING... Leyton's personal flagship.... (hmmm... last episode... Great battle above the Earth...
Scorched Earth ;)
Ex Astris, Inferno
I'm anxious to hear how your players take it, can't wait to hear how the episodes go. Great idea for the final battle being over Earth!:D
All I can say is evil..........unspeakable evil lies ahead.