Post-Apocalyptic Trek Fun

After watching a few episodes of "Andromeda," and re-reading
some old "Traveller: the New Era" supplements, I am finding the
idea of running a "post-Apocalyptic Trek" campaign rather
attractive.

I would, however, like to kick the overall level of technology down
a notch or two. The "high Trek-nology" of the "Next Generation"
era makes running a campaign where starships are held together
with duct-tape and used chewing gum, and spare parts are
worth several times their weight in gold-pressed latinum. But
what could undermine the technological infrastructure of the
Trek universe so completely?

Well...
I envision setting this campaign in a "parallel universe," where
the point of departure from the canonical timeline is the Borg's
first invasion of Earth. At one point in "The Best of Both Worlds,"
the idea of using nanotechnological weapons against the Borg is
mentioned, but then quickly rejected because such weapons
would take too long to prepare. Suppose, however, the
Enterprise failed to stop the Borg. The Borg reach Earth,
invade it, and assimilate its inhabitants (along with a great deal
of Federation high technology -- remember, they're interested in
hardware, as well as people).

Starfleet is unable to save the Federation's core worlds (Earth,
Vulcan, Andor, and so forth), but delays the Borg long enough
for scientists working on some planet out at the Federation's
edge to develop those nanotechnological weapons. The
nano-plague is released. Now, Starfleet knows the Borg can
adapt to anything, so the nano-plague is released
simultaneously, in several different parts of what had once been
the Federation. Predictably, the Borg adapt. However,
each group of "infected" Borg adapts in a different way,
and these adaptations are, for the most part, mutually
incompatible. The Borg Collective is shattered into lots of
little Collectives, each of which is convinced that it is the only
real Collective, and that it has to "cure" the rest of the
Collectives of their "impurities." The Borg are lousy diplomats
(even among themselves), and regard compromise as subversion.
Bloody fratricidal war breaks out at once, and the inhabitants of
the Federation's core worlds are assimilated and thrown into
battle as canon-fodder.

But it gets worse. Before the Collective was shattered by the
nano-plague, the Borg had already assimilated quite a bit of
Federation technology. The nano-plague wasn't designed
to prey on Federation technology, but it was designed to
"mutate" like a natural microorganism (to overcome the Borg's
ability to adapt), and eventually a mutation arose which found
Federation technology quite tasty. After "jumping the species
barrier" (like prion diseases, jumping from sheep to cattle to
human beings), the nano-plague began infecting Federation
technology which had no direct contact with the Borg. Shortly
after that, the other starfaring races' hardware was infected, too.

So...imagine nanotechnological weapon that can take over
computers, use replicators to reproduce, and transmit itself (as
replication specifications "wrapped" in some kind of nasty
computer virus) via subspace radio.

I'd say that would kick the Trek universe down a technological
notch or two, and provide lots of "post-Apocalyptic fun."

Thoughts? Suggestions?

If the plague is as wide spread as you say and as virulent, you're left with a complete systems failure for the whole Federation then you won't have much of a game considering that every Starfleet ship would be dead in space and if you say the plague mutates, it'll infect the tech of all species, it'll be end of civilization as we know it as all starships would full out of the sky. Your post apocalyptic world would be reduced to planet bound adventures.

One suggestion is that there is one remaining Starfleet vessel which had been modified to withstand the effects of the plague - a sort of ultimate contigency plan - its systems loaded with anti-body type nanoviruses. Its up to the crew to defeat the plague and begin the long process of rebuilding a Brave New World.:)

You could literally make it a parallel dimension by stranding some PC Crew from the "canon" universe and thereby give them a ship that is free from infection - perhaps the nanites were bred with a "half-life" and it ran out, and the virus is gone, but so is most of the tech the locals would have used to recreate their machines...

If you give them an appropriately lower-tech ship (ie: outdated, like, say an Oberth Class), you could give them limited resources...

The Doc

Why not simply have the Borg destroy all the nifty ships in battle? Starfleet sends in the best - and they lose. The PCs then have to make to with a lower tech, upgunned civilian vessel, or a badly damaged Starfleet ship (like Voyager in "Year of Hell"). Seems to me the Borg would target shipyards - we already know the Borg Queen is reluctant to let people or tech escape assimilation in case they come back to haunt the Borg ("Dark Frontier"). Besides, with the Federation core worlds gone, the remnants would have lost much of their vaunted resources and maintaining and/or producing high-tech ships would be a problem. We've already seen from TNG that lower tech members of the Federation make do with Movie-era hand phasers and the like...

Done that ...

In my campaign the entire Galaxy and sentient species in it have been wiped out by unknown cataclism, the players are investigating it at the moment but time will tell how well will they fare and if they will be able to reverse the cataclism and destruction.

Or you could have it where the PC's have to scrounge the remaning parts of the UFP for ship's from TOS era....that are not affected by the "virus".

This would give you the "lower" tech you are looking for....plus no doubt many of the 2260's era ships that remain would be in poor condition...and need to be jury rigged to function.

Just a thought.

And, as an ongoing "quest", Starfleet sometimes hides top-of-the-line designs until needed. Remember the bit in the TNG Tech Manual saying that six of the twelve Galaxy-Class spaceframes were assembled to 60% completion and hidden in classified locations until needed? I'm betting those ships ended up fighting in the Dominion War, but there could be, say, a Sovereign lying around partly assembled out there. Finding that and getting it up to operational capacity could be the basis of many adventures (seeing as how the Starfleet Command databases recording its whereabouts would've been destroyed by the virus too - tut, no-one prints hardcopy in the 24th Century...)

A partially assembled Soveriegn with all the parts there but since none of the computers have been hooked up it could not have been infected by the virus, it was never part of the network for the virus to infect. The only problem is that there are no shipyard facilties to assemble the damn thing. So most of it will have to be done by hand...finding the techs and engineers to build something this huge and complex...without plans and half remembered tech manuals will be a challenge in itself. Especially since age has probably destroyed some of the parts, new or jury rigged ones will have to be added...this could be fun...

I could use this as a time travel adventure the PC ship gets stuck in the future and the with their warp engines wiped out by the time travel, they'll need to locate this disassembled Sovereign to get home again. WIth the help of locals they uncover the partially completed Soveriegn and manage to rebuild it...well the crew would have more up to date knowledge about the Sovereign and how it works...and they can strip their own ship for spares...they return to their own time onboard a jerry rigged Sovereign and prepare to lead a transtime relief effort to the future.

I am thinking mid-way point of Season 3 I will spring an Andromeda styled arc on my players...but what makes Andromeda work for me is the fact that the ship is a top of he line ship from their day, so they can survive without the support network.

Why make it even harder on your players?

Simple answer: Because you can?:D

IMHO it'll be a good opportunity to take away all the nifty tech that they've become dependent on and teach them to rely on themselves and whatever they can scrape together. The Lexington's a Soveriegn isn't she...lets see how they handle it with a half functioning Constitution...no bio-neural gel packs, no type XII phasers no EMH...just them, their brains (or lack thereof:) ) in a very nasty universe...no glory to be gained here...survival is all that counts.

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Originally posted by ghosty
If the plague is as wide spread as you say and as virulent, you're left with a complete systems failure for the whole Federation then you won't have much of a game considering that every Starfleet ship would be dead in space and if you say the plague mutates, it'll infect the tech of all species, it'll be end of civilization as we know it as all starships would full out of the sky. Your post apocalyptic world would be reduced to planet bound adventures.

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A complete, civilization-wide infrastructure collapse was precisely
what I was going for. Anything with both (a) "modern" (by which
I mean "Next Generation era") and (b) true replicators (the food
synthesizers of the "Original Series era" wouldn't count) would be
vulnerable. I can see a few starships surviving, but they would
have had to have been both lucky and careful. Being way out in
deep space (beyond the subspace radio relay net's coverage
area) would help, as would being lucky enough to have a
subspace radio malfunction at just the right time. Learning of the
plague without being infected would be tricky, but possible (a
ship assigned to a "deep space exploration mission," for
example, might encounter a series of drifting hulks on its way
home, and somebody aboard is clever enough to figure it).

Only very strict "quarantine" procedures, however, would *keep*
a starship healthy. Keeping the subspace radio turned off, and
carefully decontaminating everyone, and everything, that comes
aboard would be essential (the transporter's "biofilter" would be
very useful, althought it might miss the most recent mutant
nanoplague strains).

Basically, I envision a general retreat from space for several
years. A few "high tech" worlds would survive, and would begin
building new starships with simple, robust, rough-and-ready
"plague-proof retro-tech." Surviving pre-plague "modern"
starships would probably be put in mothballs, in *very* carefully
guarded, strictly quarantined, facilities. They *might* be used for
critical missions, but imagine a deadly, highly-trained commando
who is also a hemophiliac with an impaired immune system.
Mostly, they would be put aside until a "vaccine" could be
perfected, or alternative technologies developed. This would,
however, probably take a while. A lot of knowledge was lost
when the computers crashed, and the Borg probably assimilated
the best scientists and engineers (and then killed them off, in
their plague-induced fratricidal warfare).

Of course, the whole balance-of-power in the Alpha and Beta
quadrants would be screwed up. The Tholians, with their
radically alien technology, would probably be immune to the
nanoplague, and anyone who already had a substantial number
of "retro-tech" starships would suddenly become *very* powerful.
The Klingon Empire would probably Balkanize into dozens of
planetary principalities... I haven't worked out all the implications.

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Originally posted by Capt.Hunter
And, as an ongoing "quest", Starfleet sometimes hides top-of-the-line designs until needed. Remember the bit in the TNG Tech Manual saying that six of the twelve Galaxy-Class spaceframes were assembled to 60% completion and hidden in classified locations until needed? I'm betting those ships ended up fighting in the Dominion War, but there could be, say, a Sovereign lying around partly assembled out there. Finding that and getting it up to operational capacity could be the basis of many adventures (seeing as how the Starfleet Command databases recording its whereabouts would've been destroyed by the virus too - tut, no-one prints hardcopy in the 24th Century...)

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Yup. This sounds like an excellent idea for an epic quest.
Getting a big Galaxy- or Sovereign-class starship up
and running (even with inferior "plague-proof retro-tech") would
be tough. Suitable parts would be hard to find and/or make
(getting an old Constellation- or Excelsior-class clunker
running would be much easier). Let the PCs start with a
broken-down clunker, in a backwater star system. Give them an
un-glamorous job, like search-and-rescue duty in an asteroid
belt (the mines, abandoned during the "plague years," are
opening up for business again). Then let them stumble upon one
of Starfleet's "secret starship stashes," with a shrink-wrapped,
half-completed Galaxy-class starship tucked away inside a
hollowed-out nickle-iron asteroid. Then let them go scurrying
around, looking for the odds-and-ends needed to make it
spaceworthy, like "Dungeons and Dragons" characters on a quest
for the legendary Rod-of-Seven-Parts...

To make this really interesting the crew would have to be assigned to a small ship like a miranda or oberth, or as been suggested a tos era ship, then have the crew find the 'holy grail' of starships that needs to be completed.

The ship should'nt be by any mean's easy to find, so the first part....say season one would be the players just finding out just what the heck happened. The season finally bieng a nasty situation in recovering the ship, with other interested parties desiring possesion of finding the ship and using it for their own neferious reasons.

season two would be hiding it somewhere else and protecting it while the players hunt down the needed hardware to get the ship running. ( all kinds of posssibilities here ).

Hell! I like this idea so much I just might use this myself.

Might make for an interesting source book for dectrek too.

:D :D :D

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Originally posted by TomMarg
To make this really interesting the crew would have to be assigned to a small ship like a miranda or oberth, or as been suggested a tos era ship, then have the crew find the 'holy grail' of starships that needs to be completed.

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I'd strongly suggest giving the players an old Miranda- or
Excelsior-class starship. There were still a lot of them in
service in the "Next Generation era," and that alone would
increase the odds of a few surviving the nano-plague. Finding
spare parts for such ships in the post-plague years would be
easier, and as older designs, they would also be fairly easy to
retrofit with "plague-proof retro-tech" (no improvisation required,
since these ships were originally designed for it).

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Originally posted by TomMarg
The ship should'nt be by any mean's easy to find, so the first part....say season one would be the players just finding out just what the heck happened. The season finally bieng a nasty situation in recovering the ship, with other interested parties desiring possesion of finding the ship and using it for their own neferious reasons.

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I can see the campaign beginning with a mystery. Perhaps the
PCs find the wreckage of a tramp freighter, drifting at the
outskirts of their "home" star system. Investigation of clues found
about the wreckage (log tapes, crew diaries, a cargo that can be
traced to a specific world, and so on) reveals that the freighter's
crew had been "on the trail of Something Big," when their ship
was attacked and boarded by somebody else who was pursuing
the same mystery... The players then get to re-trace the
doomed freighter's route, and eventually find the "Holy Grail of
Pre-Plague Starships."

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Originally posted by TomMarg
season two would be hiding it somewhere else and protecting it while the players hunt down the needed hardware to get the ship running. ( all kinds of posssibilities here ).

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Shipyards in the post-plague years would be few and far
between. Getting the half-finished ship back to a base capable
of making it fully spaceworthy could be a long, tense game of
"cat and mouse." I envision it being unarmed, half-blind (because
a lot of the secondary sensor packages were never installed) and
generally "brittle" (lacking backup systems, and running on an
ugly patchwork of original equipment and bits of field-installed
retro-tech). For added fun, make it partially vulnerable to the
nano-plague, so the players will have to worry about quarantine
procedures... On the other hand, post-plague adversaries are
generally going to be flying kludgework rust-buckets, too, so the
game won't be completely unfair.

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Originally posted by TomMarg
Hell! I like this idea so much I just might use this myself.

Might make for an interesting source book for dectrek too.

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If there's anything I can do to help, just ask!

What I would do would be advance the timeline a century after this disaster. Then I'd actually go big and use a butt-kicking ship like the Galaxy or Sovereign... This would work rather well if you kept the crew small. Picture the frustration, much like in Andromeda - you have a ship designed to have a crew of around a thousand or so. Yet there's but ten of you. No way it can do everything it is capable with such a small crew. Do you recruit more crewmembers? If so, how can you trust them - Federation idealists are but a distant memory... Also, if the super-ship is a bit beat up, it lacks all of its abilities. "Yes, these ships used to have holodecks and replicators, but those systems are off-line and beyond our ability to repair".

The first adventure could actually be a salvage team hunting for the ship - perhaps it was lost and the crew has found a clue as to its location...

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Originally posted by Dan Stack
What I would do would be advance the timeline a century after this disaster. Then I'd actually go big and use a butt-kicking ship like the Galaxy or Sovereign... This would work rather well if you kept the crew small. Picture the frustration, much like in Andromeda - you have a ship designed to have a crew of around a thousand or so. Yet there's but ten of you. No way it can do everything it is capable with such a small crew. Do you recruit more crewmembers? If so, how can you trust them - Federation idealists are but a distant memory... Also, if the super-ship is a bit beat up, it lacks all of its abilities. "Yes, these ships used to have holodecks and replicators, but those systems are off-line and beyond our ability to repair".

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Well...setting the campaign a century or so after the nastiness
is the way G. D. W.'s "Traveller: the New Era" handled it.
Personally, I'd put the nano-plague about twenty-five years
before the campaign begins. There are still plenty of people
around who remember the Starfleet and the Federation, but they
are definitely "on the way out," and those who grey up after
disaster moving into positions of importance and responsibility. It
might, for instance, be very hard for aging ex-Starfleet senior
officers to face their mortality and begin promoting junior officers
without "real academy training" (but plenty of bitter experience)
to command positions. This would be a crucial "time of testing"
for the former Federation's ideals. Will a new generation try to
live up to them? Or will interstellar civilization be rebuilt by
rougher, harsher, more coldly pragmatic people?

I like the idea of the super-ship's capabilities being limited by
having only a skeleton crew. Capable spacefarers will be fairly
rare. A disproportionate number of them perished when the
nano-plague left their ships drifting helplessly deep in interstellar
space. There wouldn't be very many centers of "formal"
astronautical training -- most of it would probably be by some
kind of hands-on apprenticeship ("Finish scrubbing out the
deuterium injectors, boy, and then -- maybe -- I'll teach you
about setting the intermix ratio, but not before!"). And, yes,
loyalty would be a big issue, in addition to basic competence...

Thank's for the input, but this is just the development stage, i like the idea of placing it some 50 years ahead, there may be pockets of people who remain faithful to the ideals of the federation, however these would be far and few in between.

Other such pockets, will have a much grittier tangent to them, I would imagine these would be located close to 'traditional' borders.

Klingon's: qute fractured and relagated to in house fighting and raiding for what they need. The klingons however could be a major threat as their ship design's are built for ease of construction and no- nonsense capabilities ( durable easy to repair and replace equipment ) IMO.

Romulan's: Difficult to say here, I would imagine they would simply return to their usual isolation, only this time because of the disaster. At least initially most star faring government's would leave them be, not wanting to antagonize them in case they were'nt effected. This would change quikly if the klingons decided to test this...........

Cardassian's : After the devastating war with their dominion allies ( no longer ), they should still be in the rebuilding stage, the nano-virus simply makes a bad situation only worse.

John Raynor: An excelsior is a good idea, this class of ship is very well rounded and certianly can take more punishment if needed than a miranda. As for a crew of ten or twelve, I'm not so sure, a lot of people would have to be lost in the "incident" that brought them there. However the possibilities could be that some of the crew could be dropped off at a 'safe' world to build a supply base and training centre for new crewman.

Dan: I like your plan for the ship, it would be moth balled for a long time after all and the ever present threat of the virus would make it difficult, but not as disastrous an effect.
As for the clue it could be as simple as reconstructing a data base from an abandand starbase. The virus would make it difficult to recover the data, without infecting the Pc's equipment, but could work long enough for a piece of data with a round about location.

A good/bad story would be that Data's positronic brain survived the nanovirus as it was hardened against such intrusions...so now everyone wants to get their hands on the damn thing as it contains all the information they would need to find the lost cache of Starfleet ships and being Data it would be a full owner's manual for whatever ship they recover.

However before they can find the head, they have to complete a sort of epic quest, with each piece of the puzzle falling into place until they find it on a Pakled ship (hey they scrounge so much junk their ships are probably immune to the nanovirus from plain system incompatability everytime the virus mutates to beat one system, they find another system from a wholly incompatiable system and so on and so forth).

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Originally posted by TomMarg
Cardassian's : After the devastating war with their dominion allies ( no longer ), they should still be in the rebuilding stage, the nano-virus simply makes a bad situation only worse.

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I envisioned the "nano-plague universe" diverging from the
canonical one when the U.S.S. Enterprise was failed to stop
the Borg's first attempt to invade Earth -- in other words,
the "point of divergence" would be in the middle of the "Next
Generation" era, a few years before the opening of the Bajoran
wormhole and the establishment of the Cardassio-Dominion
alliance.

I envision the pre-Dominion Cardassians being a bit like the
Soviet Union. Fundamentally, they weren't particularly powerful
(their economy wasn't very strong, their technology wasn't very
good, and so forth), but they tried really hard, and threw
everything they had into empire-building, and thus mnaged
to seriously threaten the Federation. I'm not sure how well the
Cardassians would do. There would probably be a military coup
as soon as the admirals realized how nasty the situation was,
but Cardassia's resources were spread pretty thin before the
nano-plague, and it's easy to envision a rapid descent into
Balkanization and warlordism, as individual admirals decided to
defy the central government, in order to ensure the security of
their bases and pre-plague industrial facilities. On the other
hand, Cardassians seem to be less individualistic and much more
tolerant of totalitarian abuse than Klingons, so the Balkanization
probably wasn't as severe, and the average post-plague
Cardassian splinter-state would be bigger, far better organized,
and "nano-technologically cleaner" than the average Klingon one
(but without the quasi-Wagnerian neo-barbarian Vikings-in-space
"fun factor").

Here's a post-Apocalyptic possibility:

The Vulcan Counter-Reformation
Before Surak, the Vulcans were a passionate, violently emotional
people. The Borg assimilation of the Vulcan homeworld was
probably a severe test of survivors' dedication to Logic
(particularly since the Vulcans probably didn't establish as many
colonies as the human race did, and didn't emigrate from their
homeworld as often). Some of the survivors probably failed this
test. Facing extinction at the hands of an enemy which (in a
twisted and evil way) took their own philosophy of dispassionate
Logic to a grotesque extreme, some of the survivors might have
decided to embrace their emotions (on the grounds that
emotion is one of the things the Borg definitely lack), and live
their lives (as free individuals) to the very fullest. All sorts of
conflict with "Traditional Logical Vulcans" could result. There
might even be some kind of weird convergence between the
"Counter-Reformed Vulcans" and Romulan splinter-groups.
A reunification of sorts, but not quite the one Spock imagined.

Another way to shatter the existing governments might be to drag out the Dominion War. Say, perhaps that thw folks from DS9 failed in their attempt to steal a Breen ship. With no way to counter the Breen energy draining weapon, I see fleet actions proceeding as thus: Alliance fleets would have a Klingon wing to try and kill the Breen ships. They'll stay cloaked & will be protected as much as possible by the other ships until the Breens are commited by the Dominion's forces. Once found, though, the Klingons are going to get dog-piled by the Dominion to protect the Breen ships. Alliance gets driven back, and looses a number of core worlds. Finally, group of Klingon task force gets to the Breen homeworld & major colonies, and pastes them with a genocidal Tricobalt bombardment. Likewise, the Bajoran wormhole gets shut for good, preventing Dominion reenforcement. The dying Founders send the remaining Dominion fleets to paste the major homeworlds of the Alliance, including the Rommies and the Klingons. The Breen fleet elements support this drive as an act of vengance for their homes. The war finally grinds to a halt from mutual exaustion and the destruction of most major fleets units and almost all shipyards. What do y'all think?

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Originally posted by Cybrludite
Another way to shatter the existing governments might be to drag out the Dominion War. Say, perhaps that thw folks from DS9 failed in their attempt to steal a Breen ship. With no way to counter the Breen energy draining weapon... [much deleted for the sake of brevity] ...The war finally grinds to a halt from mutual exaustion and the destruction of most major fleets units and almost all shipyards. What do y'all think?

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I haven't watched a lot of Deep Space 9, so an apocalyptic turn of
events based on that series simply didn't occur to me. There is,
however, a very important difference between this tragedy and
the one I proposed. This is a (basically) intentional apocalypse,
brought about by a series of rather brutal decisions. The
apocalypse which I proposed was accidental. Starfleet's
scientists simply didn't fully understand the the Borg Collective's
internal organization and its adaptive response reflex, and they
made an understandable, but still tragic, mistake. Interstellar
civilization doesn't sink (half-willingly) into barbarism -- it simply
throws the dice, and (through no real fault of its own) rolls very,
very poorly. Bad Things happen to Good People.

Leaving the subtle moral considerations aside, I have to admit
that I'm also fond of the hordes of squabbling Borg "splinter
Collectives," roaming though the rubble, keeping everyone on
their toes...

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Originally posted by ghosty
If the plague is as wide spread as you say and as virulent, you're left with a complete systems failure for the whole Federation then you won't have much of a game considering that every Starfleet ship would be dead in space and if you say the plague mutates, it'll infect the tech of all species, it'll be end of civilization as we know it as all starships would full out of the sky. Your post apocalyptic world would be reduced to planet bound adventures.

One suggestion is that there is one remaining Starfleet vessel which had been modified to withstand the effects of the plague - a sort of ultimate contigency plan - its systems loaded with anti-body type nanoviruses. Its up to the crew to defeat the plague and begin the long process of rebuilding a Brave New World.:)

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The solution would be to take another page from T:TNE and have the majority of the viruses programmed for suicide... with a few mutating the suicide directive out, so the virus will still pop up from time to time.

You coulod even postulate a similar "dark age" where there is little or no star travel... and your crew are among the first of their planet's new explorers. Essentially the T:TNE concept wih a ST history rather than a Traveller history.

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Originally posted by Cybrludite
Another way to shatter the existing governments might be to drag out the Dominion War. Say, perhaps that thw folks from DS9 failed in their attempt to steal a Breen ship. With no way to counter the Breen energy draining weapon, I see fleet actions proceeding as thus: Alliance fleets would have a Klingon wing to try and kill the Breen ships. They'll stay cloaked & will be protected as much as possible by the other ships until the Breens are commited by the Dominion's forces. Once found, though, the Klingons are going to get dog-piled by the Dominion to protect the Breen ships. Alliance gets driven back, and looses a number of core worlds. Finally, group of Klingon task force gets to the Breen homeworld & major colonies, and pastes them with a genocidal Tricobalt bombardment. Likewise, the Bajoran wormhole gets shut for good, preventing Dominion reenforcement. The dying Founders send the remaining Dominion fleets to paste the major homeworlds of the Alliance, including the Rommies and the Klingons. The Breen fleet elements support this drive as an act of vengance for their homes. The war finally grinds to a halt from mutual exaustion and the destruction of most major fleets units and almost all shipyards. What do y'all think?

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Sounds similar to the original Twighlight 2000 premise.

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Sounds similar to the original Twighlight 2000 premise.

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Heh. I've actually played quite a bit of that one, way back when. (And even more Gamma World before that...) I figure that the results of this sort of fighting would be apocalyptic for any planets caught in the way. Enough planets get trashed this way, and the governments will break down.