Captain Zymmer Must Die!

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Got your attention.

So here's the deal, Captain Zymmer, recently awarded a Galaxy class starship named for his now gone Ambassador, USS Exeter.

He lost the Exeter in Endgame Redux, and on his Galaxy class he is going to be sent to chart and explore the Pleiades.

Well first he remains in the Federation durin 2379, leaving in maybe the later part of the year for his mission, once Starfleet feels they can expend a seasoned commanding officer.

Now once in the Pleiades I intend to run my "Derelict" idea on him, but changing it up so the ship is overrun by some kind of spider-like alien race that kills everyone on board, except Captain Zymmer's fiancée (maybe wife at this time) Lt. Cmdr. Urram (Betazoid counselor).

Before this I am thinking os making sure that Captain Stocker becomes good friends with both of them and even takes Zymmer's adoptied daughter onto the Lexington as a Sciences officer. :)

2380 (Season 3) I will have an adventure where they find the Exeter adrift, hundreds of light years away from the Pleiades.

Just thinking out loud really, but open to comments and input as well :)

The end result is they must save Urram, but lose the Exeter, which should be destroyed to make sure the aliens do not spread.

I was thinking they picked them up in a space cloud, like on that episode of Farscape with the space bugs. But I see these guys being like locust. They strip planets as they move. Eating everything organic, leaving barren rocks in their wake. :)

The only reason that Urram has survived is that she used her mental training to make herself invisible to their senses.

Kick the can gang?

I should also mentiont hat Zymmer's daughter is a Romulan foudnling, who he adopted and sponsored into Starfleet academy.

Since Urram is a PC, it would be setting her up as a secondary counselor on the LExington after this whole adventure, and with Zymmer's daughter there, it would be nice to have her step-mother on the ship eventually. :)

Spider like aliens? Sounds like something out of Stargate SG-1 IMHO. The mechanical self replicating race which devours starships to replicate themselves. Could be an idea.

Just some random thoughts from my work addled brain.

Okay I don't want them eating starships do I? Otherwise how would Urram survive?

But it makes for an interesting threat to say the least.

But how do work it, how to work it?

Which episode of SG1 was that? I am thinking about buying Season 1 on DVD :)

Hell I like this idea so much I may work it into Season 2, and not wait for season 3 :)

Well, just one suggestion for the aliens, but a bit creepy : the alien could be more like an intelligent virus. They would attach them to anything organic, and slowly deplete it from its cells (eh, this was a TNG episode - the one where Data experiences nightmares, forgot its name - maybe possible to reuse the metaphasic aliens, or some enhanced version that doesn't fear Data's scream :) ), and, of course, transmit themselves by contact.

So the crew could start deperish without any scan explaining it, and everybody ending killed before anything could be done.
Eh, maybe the aliens could use some Psi powers instead of metaphase technobable to remain undetected. For instance, they could wipe themselves from their victim's mind, so that not even won't the victims see them, but they will also forget anything pointing to the aliens. That said, a powerful Psi could be able to see them through, and even reverse the process and become invisible to them - or also simply being able to grab the thing and throw it away.

But this is rather a creepy idea, I agree...

However, imagine : the Betazoid would see every crew member deperish in a few days, and notice some little aliens attached to them, but nobody but her would see them, and even people she told them about would not hear and forget instantly what she says...

I think I managed to scary myself on that one :eek: :p

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Okay I don't want them eating starships do I? Otherwise how would Urram survive?

But it makes for an interesting threat to say the least.

But how do work it, how to work it?

Which episode of SG1 was that? I am thinking about buying Season 1 on DVD :)

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Why do I get this strange feeling of deja vu.

I can't recall the exact episode(s), but it was at the end of season three and the beginning of season four (cliffhanger city).

Season 1 of SG-1 was not the best there were some excellent episodes but some pretty bad ones as well. I'd recomend you buy English for DVDs as they're up to season four now while the American DVDs have only released season 1 and season 2 is about to be released.

Anyway how the Cmdr Uram survives, well that's up to you. Maybe the replicating spiders haven't devoured the whole ship, there are still sections which are habitable and the surviving crew are fighting a desparate rearguard action to stop the "bugs".

One interesting wrinkle, the "bugs" are immune to energy weapons and in fact get stronger everytime they are hit by energy based weapons. Fine on SG-1 where the team has access to good old fashion slug throwers and shotguns but a living nightmare to a phaser/disruptor wielding society.

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C5 THAT IS A CREEPY IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like it.

I will save it for the Halloween episode :)

But the question becomes, how did she keep herself safe from them?

How does the Exeter wind up hundreds of light years away from where it is supposed to be?

Why wouldn't the poor girl just be insane?

Man I got a shiver when I read your post...very, very creepy...I like :D

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Why do I get this strange feeling of deja vu.

I can't recall the exact episode(s), but it was at the end of season three and the beginning of season four (cliffhanger city).

Season 1 of SG-1 was not the best there were some excellent episodes but some pretty bad ones as well. I'd recomend you buy English for DVDs as they're up to season four now while the American DVDs have only released season 1 and season 2 is about to be released.

Anyway how the Cmdr Uram survives, well that's up to you. Maybe the replicating spiders haven't devoured the whole ship, there are still sections which are habitable and the surviving crew are fighting a desparate rearguard action to stop the "bugs".

One interesting wrinkle, the "bugs" are immune to energy weapons and in fact get stronger everytime they are hit by energy based weapons. Fine on SG-1 where the team has access to good old fashion slug throwers and shotguns but a living nightmare to a phaser/disruptor wielding society.

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Unfortunately I have a Region 1 DVD player, so I can't get english (Region 2) DVDs.

Oh well. :(

Maybe I can use those spiders for another episode alter on :)

Man C5s idea is pretty good, feel like adjusting your sights on to it? *hope* *hope* *hope* ;)

Hmm...question 1 and 3 I think I handled, see above.

Question 2...the usual standbys are the best, wormhole, temporarl displacement or any one of dozen technobabble explanations. Maybe there is no explanation...she just doesn't know. "Good damnit Stocker, I'm a counselor, not a science officer." :) THe old standby put downs are equally the best.

Opps, I think I was editing when you replied...my bad :(

Check again sir :)

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Unfortunately I have a Region 1 DVD player, so I can't get english (Region 2) DVDs.

Oh well. :(

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Got mine retuned to play all regions. cost me a bit but I can watch the whole spectrum of DVDs from anywhere in the world. Hell its probably illegal but what the hell.

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Maybe I can use those spiders for another episode alter on :)

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All I say is, that's your choice. I want to use 'em myself next year but since some of the players have seen the episodes I'm modifying them so that they won't suss out the winning solution to easily.

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Man C5s idea is pretty good, feel like adjusting your sights on to it? *hope* *hope* *hope* ;)

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I'm reading his post now. I'll get back to you.

On region coding, depends on the machine mostly.

Not all players can do it, and the ones that can are getting yanked off the North American market more and more. :(

As for mech-spiders. I like the diea of them being a locust, so I will use that at some point in Season 3, where they find a series of once teaming with life planets barren and deserted, billions of beings just gone...

As for C5...I like the idea of them being a bit like the ghosts from Final Fantasy the movie. :)

Man you're too fast guys!! I can't begin to answer a post you already posted three each!! :)

Well the thing would be, once you can see the aliens, it becomes quite easy to avoid or even kill them. A tricorder can pick them up, you can even see them, etc... but if you can't resist their Mind Control, your brain will edit them out and every reference to them as well. So Uram just need to lock in her quarters or the bridge or wherever, erect a force field around the place, and she'll be safe.. but chances are she'll end up in a really fragile state of mind (that way, it's even more easier to edit her warnings :D).

As for the ship, well, like ghosty said, anything could happen...
Hey, why for instance, wouldn't you twist the plot further and add a rather advanced species (but only in some areas, maybe for instance, with high psi powers, but very little tech, something the level of Enterprise), that tries to fight the aliens, and, seing that ship infected, decided to stop the spreading into an unknowing world (the UFP :)), and, applying some sort of PD, throwed the ship far away to avoid contamination.
That way, they could even later try to stop the Crew's effort of getting the ship back, but still avoiding to show themselves.

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Originally posted by C5
Well, just one suggestion for the aliens, but a bit creepy : the alien could be more like an intelligent virus. They would attach them to anything organic, and slowly deplete it from its cells (eh, this was a TNG episode - the one where Data experiences nightmares, forgot its name - maybe possible to reuse the metaphasic aliens, or some enhanced version that doesn't fear Data's scream :) ), and, of course, transmit themselves by contact.

So the crew could start deperish without any scan explaining it, and everybody ending killed before anything could be done.
Eh, maybe the aliens could use some Psi powers instead of metaphase technobable to remain undetected. For instance, they could wipe themselves from their victim's mind, so that not even won't the victims see them, but they will also forget anything pointing to the aliens. That said, a powerful Psi could be able to see them through, and even reverse the process and become invisible to them - or also simply being able to grab the thing and throw it away.

But this is rather a creepy idea, I agree...

However, imagine : the Betazoid would see every crew member deperish in a few days, and notice some little aliens attached to them, but nobody but her would see them, and even people she told them about would not hear and forget instantly what she says...

I think I managed to scary myself on that one :eek: :p

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Zymmer, I can't really improve on C5's idea. I think you should run with it.

THe only problem is how Cdr Uram stays sane in the face of all this. Well why does she have to. Try this, she goes completely off the bend (since she's a PC you'll have to get PC cooperation for this one) but in her demented state manages to fight off the psychic parasites, maybe the parasites can't handle a mind like that (or maybe her personal shields are too strong for them to overcome).

Now enter the Lexington...and well they recover the insane Uram and well enter solo adventure for the ship's resident counselor or Vulcan to try to unscramble Uram's mind. As a thought maybe its her Romulan stepdaughter who helps her pull through, you can't start the bonding process too early can ya.

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Man C5s idea is pretty good, feel like adjusting your sights on to it? *hope* *hope* *hope* ;)

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Originally posted by ghosty
Zymmer, I can't really improve on C5's idea. I think you should run with it.

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Wow!!
I'm deeply honoured hearing this from both of you, guys.

Thanks!!!!! :) :cool:

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Man you're too fast guys!! I can't begin to answer a post you already posted three each!! :)

Well the thing would be, once you can see the aliens, it becomes quite easy to avoid or even kill them. A tricorder can pick them up, you can even see them, etc... but if you can't resist their Mind Control, your brain will edit them out and every reference to them as well. So Uram just need to lock in her quarters or the bridge or wherever, erect a force field around the place, and she'll be safe.. but chances are she'll end up in a really fragile state of mind (that way, it's even more easier to edit her warnings :D).

As for the ship, well, like ghosty said, anything could happen...
Hey, why for instance, wouldn't you twist the plot further and add a rather advanced species (but only in some areas, maybe for instance, with high psi powers, but very little tech, something the level of Enterprise), that tries to fight the aliens, and, seing that ship infected, decided to stop the spreading into an unknowing world (the UFP :)), and, applying some sort of PD, throwed the ship far away to avoid contamination.
That way, they could even later try to stop the Crew's effort of getting the ship back, but still avoiding to show themselves.

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Both good ideas C5, but only one hitch ont he lock herself in her room, the Captain is her husband. She may try to fight to the bitter end on that one :)

Overall, a ship full of dying people may be very, very hard on a powerful empath/telepath. Would most likely drive her over the edge.

I like the idea that the alien species, who are pacifists, send the ship away rather than destroy it :)

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Originally posted by ghosty


Zymmer, I can't really improve on C5's idea. I think you should run with it.

THe only problem is how Cdr Uram stays sane in the face of all this. Well why does she have to. Try this, she goes completely off the bend (since she's a PC you'll have to get PC cooperation for this one) but in her demented state manages to fight off the psychic parasites, maybe the parasites can't handle a mind like that (or maybe her personal shields are too strong for them to overcome).

Now enter the Lexington...and well they recover the insane Uram and well enter solo adventure for the ship's resident counselor or Vulcan to try to unscramble Uram's mind. As a thought maybe its her Romulan stepdaughter who helps her pull through, you can't start the bonding process too early can ya.

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It would work well, as her roomate plays Jago Vlasdric, the little psionic Boslic on the ship as well :)

I love it when a plan comes together :)

The Romulan stepdaughter could certainly provide support, but like most of her race she is a psionic dead-end.

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Wow!!
I'm deeply honoured hearing this from both of you, guys.

Thanks!!!!! :) :cool:

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Don't let it go to your head Frenchy :p

Seriously, glad you are pleased :)

I don't believe it this became a "hot" thread and in such a short time too.

Okay, on the subject of the Romulan since she's genetically a Vulcanoid, she would have the gene for pisonic powers its just recessive due to separate social/cultural development of the Romulans. THis could be an opportunity to awaken her long buried psionic potential....

Ohhhhhhh

I like that idea my man, good thinking Ghosty.

Certainly considering Zymmer's last thoughts may have been how much he loved his wife and his daughter...she could pass those thoughts onto Valera which could trigger something...

Hmmmmmmmm...

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Both good ideas C5, but only one hitch ont he lock herself in her room, the Captain is her husband. She may try to fight to the bitter end on that one :)

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Ooops...

Well, for one thing... either the Captain could be amongst the first to be stricken, and Uram not have the time to save him... or, much nastier, the Captain could have resisted all her attempts to save him, maybe eventually sending her to sickbay thinking her insane or something.

Did I went to the Dark Side or what ??? :p

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Ohhhhhhh

I like that idea my man, good thinking Ghosty.

Certainly considering Zymmer's last thoughts may have been how much he loved his wife and his daughter...she could pass those thoughts onto Valera which could trigger something...

Hmmmmmmmm...

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Good damn I'm good aren't I.

Its always fun to introduce players to new facets of their characters they never knew they had. It'll also give stepmother and daughter something else to bond over. Part of Uram's therapy may well be to show Valera how to control her new found abilities. For better game balance give her powers that are not normally found in Trek, telekinesis may be an idea or something dangerously volatile like pyrokinesis.:) The Player's Guide has loads of interesting psionic subtypes.

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Ooops...

Well, for one thing... either the Captain could be amongst the first to be stricken, and Uram not have the time to save him... or, much nastier, the Captain could have resisted all her attempts to save him, maybe eventually sending her to sickbay thinking her insane or something.

Did I went to the Dark Side or what ??? :p

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Zymmer looks at his wife, and the steely determined look on her face. She won't be listening to reason this time. He thinks. He draws his phaser and POW stun blast.:) :D :)

Well give that Urram (PC) was rated as the most powerful Betazoid psionic in about 100 years and Jago (PC) is the first recorded Boslic with psionics and she is creepy powerful, I don't think I want a 3rd powerful psionic on the ship.

Maybe just some empathy and telepathy eh? ;)

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Originally posted by C5


Ooops...

Well, for one thing... either the Captain could be amongst the first to be stricken, and Uram not have the time to save him... or, much nastier, the Captain could have resisted all her attempts to save him, maybe eventually sending her to sickbay thinking her insane or something.

Did I went to the Dark Side or what ??? :p

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Hmmmm...

Or he holds out the longest, because he is her Imzadi and as such she can connect with him and show his mind what is up. So he and she struggle to save the crew, but in the end she can't save him.

He makes her promise to survive and take care of Valera. :)

Much better than going dark on this one...I need something for her to hang on to, some glimmer of something. :)

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Well give that Urram (PC) was rated as the most powerful Betazoid psionic in about 100 years and Jago (PC) is the first recorded Boslic with psionics and she is creepy powerful, I don't think I want a 3rd powerful psionic on the ship.

Maybe just some empathy and telepathy eh? ;)

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I never said powerful just a bit out of control. Even a low grade TK can cause trouble if they can't control their powers. What I'm getting is that she should have powers that the other two don't have making it more difficult for them to help her control and focus her powers. Here I go again, more character plumbing. Can't help it I guess.

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Zymmer looks at his wife, and the steely determined look on her face. She won't be listening to reason this time. He thinks. He draws his phaser and POW stun blast.:) :D :)

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None of that...bad Ghosty ;)

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Don't let it go to your head Frenchy :p

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Hey, I got promoted today as well, leaving the ranks of the doomed ensigns! Just let me feel the power getting to my head for once, sacrebleu!!!
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None of that...bad Ghosty ;)

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I'll go hide in the corner now and cower then shall I.

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I never said powerful just a bit out of control. Even a low grade TK can cause trouble if they can't control their powers. What I'm getting is that she should have powers that the other two don't have making it more difficult for them to help her control and focus her powers. Here I go again, more character plumbing. Can't help it I guess.

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Food for thought, but it would work for alater adventure, where he mind powers cause soem problems...still I am hesitant to have too many Psi's on the ship...unless....hmmmmm....I have an idea...but I must work it first....

Psicorps...Telepath Wars...etc...thinking...thinking...

Don't cower Ghosty, we need your input.

Congrats C5 :)

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None of that...bad Ghosty ;)

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My fault, I was the one initiating the idea in the first place :o

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Food for thought, but it would work for alater adventure, where he mind powers cause soem problems...still I am hesitant to have too many Psi's on the ship...unless....hmmmmm....I have an idea...but I must work it first....

Psicorps...Telepath Wars...etc...thinking...thinking...

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Here we go again...Babylon 5 alert. What next Chekov turns out to be the director of Section 31.

Okay I'm going back to the corner now.

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My fault, I was the one initiating the idea in the first place :o

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S'okay.

So as it stands, the Exeter encounters a nebula or cloud in space. After a week of travel and exploration Urram begins to notice odd behaviour in the crew... The doctor reports a large number of crew complaining about bad sleep.

A week later she notices the ectoplasmic growth on the back of her husbands neck. She also feels the conciousness in it. She searches her own body and finds one as well. Using her mind powers she forces hers off and his, but the Doctor insists that he can't see what she is talking about.

Slowly over the next few weeks the growths blossum and become living beings, that are sucking the lifeforce out of the crew. She and her husband try and help the crew, but they won't be helped.

Eventually they are all dead, except for she and her husband, Zymmer has an idea that if he can create a resonating pulse in the ship using the warp coils, he can kills the beasts. Urram can't do it since it would fry her brain.

He kisses her, she feels his love for her and his daughter as he makes her promise to get home and take care of Valera. Then he departs.

Being outside her protection the lifeforms converge on him and he dies just feet away from where he needed to be.

She waits, he doesn't return.

Aliens find the ship, ascertain what is going on, but because they do not believe in taking any life, they open a starget and shunt the Exeter through, where it is eventually found and the Lexington is ordered to investigate.

What do we think?

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Originally posted by ghosty


Here we go again...Babylon 5 alert. What next Chekov turns out to be the director of Section 31.

Okay I'm going back to the corner now.

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Umm.

I love that

I think that is amazing.

But isn't he like 120 by now?

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S'okay.

So as it stands, the Exeter encounters a nebula or cloud in space. After a week of travel and exploration Urram begins to notice odd behaviour in the crew... The doctor reports a large number of crew complaining about bad sleep.

A week later she notices the ectoplasmic growth on the back of her husbands neck. She also feels the conciousness in it. She searches her own body and finds one as well. Using her mind powers she forces hers off and his, but the Doctor insists that he can't see what she is talking about.

Slowly over the next few weeks the growths blossum and become living beings, that are sucking the lifeforce out of the crew. She and her husband try and help the crew, but they won't be helped.

Eventually they are all dead, except for she and her husband, Zymmer has an idea that if he can create a resonating pulse in the ship using the warp coils, he can kills the beasts. Urram can't do it since it would fry her brain.

He kisses her, she feels his love for her and his daughter as he makes her promise to get home and take care of Valera. Then he departs.

Being outside her protection the lifeforms converge on him and he dies just feet away from where he needed to be.

She waits, he doesn't return.

Aliens find the ship, ascertain what is going on, but because they do not believe in taking any life, they open a starget and shunt the Exeter through, where it is eventually found and the Lexington is ordered to investigate.

What do we think?

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Not bad...it could work...let us know how it all turns out.

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Not bad...it could work...let us know how it all turns out.

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Won't be for about 6 months, but I will keep this all in mind for then :)

Man Season 2 is gonna rock and roll! :)

Do you think I should add some Ferengi salvagers just to keep them on their toes?

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Umm.

I love that

I think that is amazing.

But isn't he like 120 by now?

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You're kidding right?

So what, Bones was a lot older and he lived to a ripe old age. And he is after all Section 31 chief, who knows what technology they have access to. Son'a regenerative tech perhaps may not work on their irradiated selves but on humans? who knows. After it is Section 31...

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You're kidding right?

So what, Bones was a lot older and he lived to a ripe old age. And he is after all Section 31 chief, who knows what technology they have access to. Son'a regenerative tech perhaps may not work on their irradiated selves but on humans? who knows. After it is Section 31...

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Hmmmmm...neat idea...oh my yes, I love this idea! :)

He scours the quadrants looking for techniques that can prolong his life just a little bit longer.

In fact he was behind the whole Baku/S'Ona thing.