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Finally got th NG, and it looks as good as everyone has been saying (I'm particularly impressed with the starship combat rules). However, I have a - possibly dumb - question: will starship data sheets be made available, with the system damage tracks, etc, incorporated into them? I had a brief look at the forms at the back of the book, but I didn't see them there.
Anyway, Don, Ross, Doug and co - great job! It was worth the wait :D .
I'm busily making terminal sheets for my PC bridge officers. I'm using a few house rules which I can explain if anyone really wants me too!
The OPS sheet is currently available in ppt format in the roleplaying section on my webpage:
www.njsephton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
Suggestions are welcome!
Dr Nick
The forms are inthe back, I think, along with the rest of the planet, species, and other sheets. Unfortunately, Decipher hadn't learned from it's character sheet debacle and did them with a freakin' blakc background again.
But the Starship form in the back doesn't have any damage tracks.
Given that a starship can take a damage to components whenever a row of structure is crossed off, there should be a form somewhere showing those rows. But there isn't one.
Don had a few choice things to say in another thread about the lack of a more condensed ship combat sheet, and I think he did say he plans to produce one for fan use here. (This is good, I think, because the structure damage track mentioned on NG p. 114 seems never to have made it into the book.)
I don't have the NG here at work, but I do remember seeing a small (around 1/4 page) image of the damage track somewhere in the Starship chapter.
There is a systems damage track in the starship chapter (which should ideally be on the starship sheet too) but no structure damage track.
How many points constitutes a row of structure anyway? 5? 10?
Five points of structure equals a "row". See page 115 (right unde rtable 7.10) for more information. :)
Thanks, Doug.
Just scribble it in the border... oh wait, the border is full of ink !?!?
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Originally posted by Greg Smith
But the Starship form in the back doesn't have any damage tracks.
This pdf form might help y'all a little. No fancy LCARS design, because the page is full enough already.
Every 5 structure 'block', the shields protection and the systems reliabilities are all check-boxes, so you cn just check off what you don't need before printing it out.
the rest are form fields too, BTW.
Edit: An updated version of the file can be found on page 2 of this thread. I have deleted the file mentioned above to save some forum space.
Very nice.Quote:
Originally posted by Lancer
This pdf form might help y'all a little. No fancy LCARS design, because the page is full enough already.
CB
Lancer, you've done it again!!!
Berry berry nice...:D
Perhaps another column could be added for space cost.
Hmmm, the thought never occured to me, but I can probably add some fields on the left edge of the page.Quote:
Originally posted by Darth Sarcastic
Perhaps another column could be added for space cost.
I'll see what I can do and if the file is still small enough for a forum attachment with the added graphics and form fields I'll post it here within the next few days.
Thanks, Lancer - that's exactly what I was looking for!
Going to run me some starship duels now :)
Nice, simple, clean. I like it.
A few editing things, though.
You didn't leave a space for "Atmosphere Capable".
The shield damage track "A...System Offline: Vessel Blind" doesn't make much sense ;)
You need to insert a space in the Life Support damage track "E...Random Console Explodes: 1d6stun"
You need to even out the spacing on your yellow data "bubbles".
Still, it's an ellegant, simple form, which looks great. Just a little tweaking to do for the final draft, methinks.:)
-Chris Landmark
That's the thing with customers, they always complain, even when they praise you. ::sigh:: ;):D:pQuote:
Originally posted by Chris Landmark
Still, it's an ellegant, simple form, which looks great. Just a little tweaking to do for the final draft, methinks.:)
Chris, thanks for bringing these things to my attention. Some of them I saw myself after posting the form and all of them will be corrected in Version 1.1.
Looks great. Think I'll use it. I'm hoping to try out starship combat tomorrow night.
Here you are, Version 1.2 with all the typos corrected and added form fields for space.
Nice mods to the sheet. Looks good and prints just fine. Good job...I will really put this to the test during combat.
Nice sheet and printer friendly.
Thanks guys. I am really happy you like this sheet.
And if you liked this, you might like the character sheet I am currently working on, too. ;)
How much longer do you think it'll take? If the char sheet is half as good as the starship one, I'd use it.Quote:
Originally posted by Lancer
And if you liked this, you might like the character sheet I am currently working on, too. ;)
CB
Could take me a few more days, as I recently got some new fonts that I want to try on the sheet. Plus I am not certain yet on the design for the page border - LCARS or no LCARS that is the question.Quote:
Originally posted by CorpBoy
How much longer do you think it'll take? If the char sheet is half as good as the starship one, I'd use it.
If you want to get a look at what I've got so far just send me a PM or email with your own email adress and I'll share the "beta test" with you.
Hiya Lancer,
Nice job on the latest version! Having the fields available in the PDF is a nice touch (obviously I don't have Acrobat Writer 5) ;)
Quick question about the Structure tracks - If I click on one of the boxes, all 5 for the group get checked. I'm not fully at home with the rules yet, but is this right?
Thanks again,
Bonzai Gopher
This is intentional, as the NG says you can convert space to structure and vice versa in blocks of 5 each and edges/flaws for ships cost/give 5 spaces each.Quote:
Originally posted by BonzaiGopher
Quick question about the Structure tracks - If I click on one of the boxes, all 5 for the group get checked. I'm not fully at home with the rules yet, but is this right?
Don said elsewhere that this is a hard rule and not just a guideline, as each 5 points of structural damage lead to systems damage. So you shouldn't have a ship with structure that's not evenly divisible by 5.
However, if you're using the sheet to help in combat, then you need to be able to select one point of damage at the time. :-)
Tom
I always thought the idea was to print off the completed sheet and use pencil to mark off individual boxes.Quote:
Originally posted by Arknight
However, if you're using the sheet to help in combat, then you need to be able to select one point of damage at the time. :-)
Tom
nice work
If you have a computer next to you during the game and want to click form fields instead of printing the sheet and using a pencil just go ahead and change the form fields.Quote:
Originally posted by Arknight
However, if you're using the sheet to help in combat, then you need to be able to select one point of damage at the time. :-)
Tom
All you need is Acrobat Writer to give each structure box a different name and hey presto! - one point structure fields. ;)
Yep, that's what I did called the fields X{a,b,c,d,e} and voila.
:)
BTW, what's you use to get the LCARS look? I'm trying to play around and make some of the other forms in the NG, and can't quite figure it out. :confused:
Tom
Oh I don't use any fancy layout program if that's what you think, but only a simple word processor (in my case Sun's 'Star Office').Quote:
Originally posted by Arknight
BTW, what's you use to get the LCARS look? I'm trying to play around and make some of the other forms in the NG, and can't quite figure it out. :confused:
Most of the LCARS boxes are just rounded text fields with colored backgrounds.
The system damage tracks were made the same way with superimposed white lines.
The "Ship" and "Class" fields are blue rounded text fields again with superimposed yellow fields. To get the with lines between the yellow and blue don't put white lines on top. Just make the outline of the yellow box white lines and adjust border width as needed.
The structure and protection tracks are yet again text fields, this time with a slim black outline and a horizontal/vertical black grid as a background.
Maybe not the best way to do it, but it works for me.