Would use use/participate in a FASA-only section on TrekRPGNet?

Okay, this is a topic that I don't currently support, but I thought I'd throw it out to you folks.

Would anyone like to see/use a section for the old FASA Star Trek RPG?

Now, before you respond, this isn't a "gee that would be a neat idea" kind of question. I want to know (via this poll), how many people would actually use it (the aforementioned board). In a perfect world I think it's a good idea too--I just don't think there are enough people out there playing the FASA system to merit such a board.

Also, while I'm not familiar with any sites, I'm sure there are some very good FASA sites out there already. (Dan G, don't you run one?) I don't want to replicate something that's being done somewhere else better.

So, bottom-line: for all you FASA fans who want an area on here to talk about FASA Trek, here's your big chance. Vote and also dig up your other FASA friends who might not visit TrekRPGNet and have them also come cast their vote. Unless I see a good number of people really want this (as opposed to a vocal few), I'm not going to do it.

Grimjack (and others), here's your chance to make your voice be heard! :)

I'll be honest with you, it wouldn't be a frequent thing; I've developed a fondness for Coda that I didn't think I would. But I have a wealth of FASA material and the occasional burning question that I want to ask. So my answer is a qualified "yes."

The only system I own is ICON, even though I'm currently not invovled in a game. I probably won't switch over to CODA, let alone "go backwards" to FASA.

Gotta vote no on this one.

OK I would probably visit and use it to an extent. it would be fun to see, but I'm still not convinced it's a necessity.

So I voted yes, because I have a nostalgic fondness for FASA, but it's not something I'd probably use much.

Nope. I didn't care for FASA's approach to the setting, and I much prefer the recent systems.

I voted yes primarily out of a desire for a concentrated effort to update and rework the system :)

And I LOVE the FASA Universe for Trek. Much more than TNG anyway ;)

And if you needed a moderator for it, I would gladly offer my services :)

Though DanG would probably kneecap me for the job ;)

Chello!

I voted yes. The ony sections I look at anymore are Narrator's Ready Room, Star Trek Chat, General Chat...sometimes Spacedock. I used to do LUG, but with the release of CODA, I've started up my FASA game again.

So, I say yes.

Tony

While the idea is nice, I'm going with the 'no' vote. I like the FASA enviroment, but most of the FASA stuff I have, I convert to ICON.

Actually Don. I have an ICON site, and would prefer to get my ICON stuff all posted here anyway...

I think its Dan Stack with the FASA site.

Although, I had a thought about this very subject...

For qiute some time the queries about a FASA section of the boards has been out there, but looking at the traffic on the ICON boards now that CODA has been released, I cannot really se the traffic being that heavy.

I dont use FASA myself, but I do use CODA, and would likely read the material on a FASA board for ideas.

But why not combine the two, supporting bot FASA and CODA on the same board? Hell, at that point, you could offer ANY trek gaming support, from Prime Directive, GURPS, even free-form, just label up the post as to which system and take it from there...

Kind of like your idea for the combined Utopia Planetia boards. And then there can be no confusion over the 4RPGs 1 web site motto any more. :D

Although, I have no desire to kneecap AslanC for the Moderators job. I have already reported him to the WOTC Gestapo for showing signs of creativity and free-thinking...

They'll do it. ;)

It was indeed me who maintained the FASA-Trek page once upon a time, but sadly Dan Stack's FASA-Trek page is no more. :(

However, the material is currently being transferred over to Dave Shneider's FASA-Trek page - I sent Dave an archive of my old page with permission to use it. Some of the TNG ship designs from my old page have already popped up.

Don, I'm not certain how important a majority vote is on this actually - I personally think numbers of yes is more important than percentage.

While we're talking forums, what about a more generic Trek roleplaying forum? We have the Narrator's forum, but what about one for players who wish to discuss roleplaying aspects of their characters, backgrounds, etc. Or possibly rolling that into the Narrator's forum, maybe renaming it.

Don, I'm not certain how important a majority vote is on this actually - I personally think numbers of yes is more important than percentage.

While we're talking forums, what about a more generic Trek roleplaying forum? We have the Narrator's forum, but what about one for players who wish to discuss roleplaying aspects of their characters, backgrounds, etc. Or possibly rolling that into the Narrator's forum, maybe renaming it.
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Don,
I agree with both the above points...

I am looking more at hard numbers than a percentage. Put a board up for 20 people? Heck no. Put one up for 200 people? Okay, now you've got my attention. :)

Also, it looks like I mixed up my Dans. Sorry! :D

We could easily rename the Narrator's forum as a general Trek RP forum. I've always liked the idea of a special place for Narrator's to go and bounce around ideas, without wading through other stuff, however. Food for thought.

Instead of a FASA forum, why not maintain a forum specifically for alternate systems (FASA/ICON/PD1/GURPS: PD). Pretty much like Dan's suggestion, but keep the CODA stuff separate.

I think I like Captain Daniel Hunter's idea the best actually.

If you ask me, and you haven't, here's what I'd propose:

Star Trek Roleplaying Forums:

• Coda Star Trek
• Other System Star Trek (Icon, Prime Directive, FASA)
• Generic Star Trek Roleplaying (i.e. systemless discussion on Trek RPGs intended both for players and narrators)
• Narrator's Ready Room
• Utopia Planitia
• Spacedock
• Open Special Projects

Then keep the current General Chat and Star Trek chat forums as-is.

Same number of forums as before.

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Originally posted by Dan Stack
If you ask me, and you haven't, here's what I'd propose:

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STII references aside, I think this thread is sufficient example that I'm looking for more input. :)

I'm totally with Mr. Stack on this one.

-- Daniel

Hey, knowledge is power. Why not make use of all we can?

Yes, even though it appears the vote is not going to be on the plus side, let alone 200...

Personally, I definitely think we need somewhere to discuss FASA content, I'm using it myself, but I doubt it needs a forum to itself. I'd make use of ideas, but never do anything FASA-specific so that makes me a no :(

I'm in favour of the rearrangement suggested by Dan Stack.

Gotta vote "no joy" on this one. FASA is dead to me.

I also voted no.

Not that I do not like the Fasa version, it is just that I have moved on to the icon system and soon to the new system and have no desire to use or discuss the Fasa system anymore. I am even going to be getting rid most if not all of my Fasa stuff soon.

My vote was "yes" - not so much for a forum to discuss FASA exclusively, but at least for a forum where it wouldn't be considered off-topic. This site does claim to support "four Trek RPGs" (or was that a reference to the potential four Icon lines?) - I'd like to see it live up to that claim; right now, it only seems to be supporting Icon, with the caveat that Coda hasn't been around long enough for significant support material to be developed.

I must admit that much of my FASA interest would lie in converting the material to the Coda system; but the setting material is quite nice in and of itself.

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Originally posted by dataweaver
This site does claim to support "four Trek RPGs" (or was that a reference to the potential four Icon lines?) - I'd like to see it live up to that claim; right now, it only seems to be supporting Icon, with the caveat that Coda hasn't been around long enough for significant support material to be developed.

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Yes, the four Icon game lines.

Tell you what, you cover my server costs for a year and I'll give you a spiffy, shiny FASA section to use as you please. :D

Hell, I'll extend that offer to anyone who wants a PD section as well.

Ah, a year is a bit much. Hows about six months? ;)

I'm not opposed to supporting other games -- I just want to direct the resources of this free site to where they'll best be served. In that case it's currently Icon (fading fast) and Coda.

I monitor page hits and am eager to get our new DB system online to organize all this content we've accumulated. More message boards mean more DB space, mean more data storage space, more CPU cycles, and more of a cluttered interface. I don't want to do that unless people will use them.

Hence, the purpose of this thread. Thanks to everyone for their comments (good or bad). :)

I don't know about FASA, but I don't think there's really a need for a Prime Directive section here. The starfleetgames.com discussion boards already has a section just for GPD (and PD1), and while I'm quite flattered that people like our game well enough to talk about every so often, I don't think we need to eat up that much resources for what's probably gonna be just an ocassional thread or three.

Besides, I don't want to think how much the server for this site costs! :)

Alex Chobot
GURPS Prime Directive NetRep
mkgarton@msn.com

Don: if there was a message board where discussions concerning FASA material was on topic, I'd be discussing some FASA material there. Said board needn't be exclusively FASA, however - just as long as people know to expect the occasional FASA-related post there. Right now, I've nowhere to go with my thoughts and questions concerning FASA Trek. Changing the (rapidly fading) Icon message boards into more generic "miscellaneous Trek RPGs" boards would accomplish that (as well as addressing Prime Directive issues), though I suspect that Icon fans might get upset about losing their "exclusiveness" status.

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Originally posted by dataweaver
Don: if there was a message board where discussions concerning FASA material was on topic, I'd be discussing some FASA material there. Said board needn't be exclusively FASA, however - just as long as people know to expect the occasional FASA-related post there. Right now, I've nowhere to go with my thoughts and questions concerning FASA Trek. Changing the (rapidly fading) Icon message boards into more generic "miscellaneous Trek RPGs" boards would accomplish that (as well as addressing Prime Directive issues), though I suspect that Icon fans might get upset about losing their "exclusiveness" status.

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Heh. ICON could be lumped in with the "miscellaneous Trek RPG's". That wouldn't bother me :)

I Think for the most part people want a place to talk about the FASA setting more than a place to talk about the system. And for the most part the narrators section aready has done this more than once, as well as in the Utopia sections.

My Vote: No

I personally would not use a FASA-only forum, but I appreciate the usefulness of one in the interest of Trek roleplaying unity. Many of us recall our FASATrek days with fondness. (Hey, I even recall playing Trek using rules taken from an article in Different Worlds magazine. The author extrapolated upon Heritage's Trek miniatures rules to create a nifty little game.)

I like Dan Stack's elaboration on Daniel Hunter's idea. I would make one change though...

Keep all Coda discussions in seperate forums, i.e.:

- Coda Systems & Mechanics
- Coda Utopia Planitia (I've always been partial to McKinley Fleet Yards myself)
- Narrator's Ready Room
- Non-Coda Systems & Mechanics
- Non-Coda Utopia Planitia

Anything I haven't mentioned I would leave as it is.

That's my 2 cents.

BTW - What do I have to do to rise above cadet?

Not only do I think this is a good idea, but it might make me visit more often again. I've been coming by less often recently because...

a) Decipher's Star Trek was, IMHO, disappointing. A D20 version of ICON without all the benefits of actually having it be D20. Since much of the new talk and info was DecTrek oriented, I've sorta been working on stuff on my own. It's also been out for a while now with little to no support products.

b) My Star Trek RPG players are fans from way back. We have no problem playing the FASA version, a version that we've been playing longer and has more material then ICON and DecTrek combined.

More Power to FASATrek!

AndorMan
Andorians-Old School Cool-New School Special FX

Thank you to everyone for their suggestions. While there wasn't enough support for a FASA-only board, I have expanded the non-Coda board to be non-system-specific. Thus, you can now discuss Icon, FASA, or any Star Trek RPG system (D20?) that you'd like there.

If a conversation is system-specific please be courteous to our other visitors and denote the system in the thread subject header.

Just noticed that. Very cool! Thanks again! :)