Anybody out there have any ideas whatsoever how to create a Timefleet character? I am interested in making one or two for a series I plan on runing.
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Anybody out there have any ideas whatsoever how to create a Timefleet character? I am interested in making one or two for a series I plan on runing.
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Have you looked in the "All Our Yesterdays" sourcebook?
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the book you are looking for is "all our yesterdays" it has what your looking for page 61.
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Success is how high you bounce when you hit bottom. ---General George Patton
cmdr torak, I was talking about the Federation Timefleet, from the 29th century (see Voyager episode "Relativity"). On p 61 of "All Our Yesterdays", the chapter which begins there is for creating Department of Temporal Investigations characters. Not the same thing. Sorry
Sarge, I've looked everywhere! There are vague mentions of the Timefleets purpose throughout the book, as well as some of their vessels, but no hardcore material I could use to generate a character.
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Sounds like another soursbook project to me! http://www.trekrpg.net/Board/ubb/smile.gif
Chris
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Not really another sourcebook, its one of the aspects we wanted to cover in the Starfleet Guide... Possibly as an additional chapter available seperately...
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Dan.
"A couple of thoughts from a random mind!"
I'd just use the DTI info and give the characters more advanced toys to play with.
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Originally posted by Commander Phil:
Anybody out there have any ideas whatsoever how to create a Timefleet character? I am interested in making one or two for a series I plan on runing.
I don't know if this helps because I only used it to create an NPC from 30th Century Starfleet but it could be tinkered with.
1. Select a racial template including some non-Federation races (Nausican, Pakled, Cardassian, Vorta, Voth) or better yet create a new one of your own to make it evident how much the Federation has expanded.
2. Choose an Early Life History with strong science skills.
3. Choose a Overlay from the core book but replace some of the skills with "new" specializations you create such Personal Equipment (temporal field generator), Shipboard Systems(long-range transporters), History (Ferengi-Borg Wars), Space Sciences (photonics) Physican Sciences (temporal fields).
4. Choose an Academy background or create new ones (Delta Quadrant campus study, Cardassian mental training, 17th century field study)
5. Use the tours of duty but alter any skills to suit your background history from the future.
Balance out the following advantages and disadvantages
ADVANTAGES
- Physically Advanced +1 or +5 (character reflects the biological advances of his time period; a +1 means the character is taller but otherwise normal, has double the normal lifespan or a similar benefit; +5 means he has 5 extra DPs to spend on Attributes and traits even if they are beyond the racial limit)
- Knowledge bio-inplant +3 (allows a player to learn three skills that he would otherwise not know or have the either Tactical Genius, Science, Engineering or Language Aptitude)
- Historical Aptitude +3
- Temporal Genius/Training +3
- Civilized +2 (Can select one "negative" disadvantage of his race and remove it. "I'm a Klingon we gave up our bloodlust centuries ago.")
- Technologically Advanced +1 to +5 (each point means the character comes from a period where the Technological Level (see core book) is more advanced; players using any science, engineering, shipboard system or presonal equipment skill gets a +1 bonus for each level of this advantage.)
DISADVANTAGES
- Code of Honor -3 (Temporal Prime Directive you can tell members of Starfleet that you are from the future if you aren't from a "new" member race but you cannot reveal any facts or clues about the future)
- No Past -2
- Advanced Species -3 (The character belongs to a race or group which is not well liked by current Federation races or has evolved past current traits; "I'm a Ferengi, what do I know about money or haggling over price?")
- Culturally Lost -3 (A -3 penalty to command, persuasion or charm skills. "You're in a red uniform, you must be a doctor."; "So the shuttle exploded, there is enough tissue floating out there to reconstruct the captain in a bio-reintegrator right? Wait has Professor Harry Zenek been born yet?")
- Historically Inaccurate -2 (A -2 penalty to all command, charm, persuasion, culture, history or social science sills. "I always wanted to meet Enterprise Captain Picard, the hero of the V'Ger mission.")
As far as roleplaying the character don't shy away from playing it over the top. Act amused by things your character sees as odd or strange that others think are marvelous. But remember you are in on a joke that the other players aren't aware of and you can't talk about. "Holodecks? How quaint." "Sorry Sir I didn't meant to laugh about having to deal with the Romulans."
Hope this helps
[This message has been edited by CaptainGonzalez (edited 02-03-2001).]
Don't forget to include the Arrogant disadvantage for dealing with more "primitive" time periods!
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"The more top brass briefings I attend, the more I want to take a phaser to the whole lot of them..."
Captain Matt Hunter, USS Tempest, NCC-81205
I came across this post a while back and liked the concept. Since we've seen some futures of Star Trek in the different series I tried to make some tours, academy packages and an overlay. Depending on the setting of your history and the era you're playing, these could be used (even in the 25th for example).
Temporal Security Overlay (54 DP)
A position abourd a Federation Timeship or Starbase tasked with the protection of the timeline. This department ensures the safety and security of the timeline and continuously seek out disturbenses and deals with them.
Athletics (choose specialization) 1 (2)
Energy Weapon (Phaser) 1 (2)
Dodge 1
First Aid (Combat/Wound Trauma) 1 (2)
Law (Starfleet/Timefleet Regulations) 1 (2)
Planetside Survival (choose specialization) 1 (2)
Personal Equipment (choose specialization) 1 (2)
Unarmed Combat (Starfleet Martial Arts) 1 (2)
Vehicle Operations (Shuttlecraft) 1 (2)
Shipboard Systems (Sensors) (Temporal Systems) 2 (3) (3)
History (Federation) (choose one other) 2 (3) (3)
Engineering, Systems (Temporal Systems) 1 (2)
Social Sciences (Anthropology) (Historical Engineering) 1 (2) (2)
Physical Sciences (Temporal Physics) 1 (2)
Language Federation 1
Sense of Time (+1)
Academy Packages (future Starfleet/Timefleet) (8 DP)
Delta Quadrant Campus Exchange:
Cadet spent half a year to a year at the Delta Quadrant campus of Starfleet Academy. There he learned a lot about the Delta Quadrant, its species and its history.
Culture (choose 2 specializations of Delta Quadrant species) 1 (2) (2)
Starship Tactics (choose Delta Quadrant species) 1 (2)
If the borg are still a threat: Species Enemy (Borg) -2 AND 2 points of contacts
Gamma Quadrant Campus Exchange:
Same as Delta Quadrant but with Gamma species and a substitution of Borg for Dominion if they are still a threat
Historical Field Study:
The cadet took a trip to an earlier time period to study its history. The strict non interference made sure he didn't effect the timeline.
History (choose time period and planet) 2 (3)
Culture (choose culture from period/planet) 1 (2)
Code of Honor (Temporal Prime Directive) -3
Social Sciences (Anthropology) 1 (2)
Tours of Duty (future Starfleet/Timefleet) (10 DP)
Temporal Patrol:
Serving aboard a vessel which patrolled the timeline by scanning for anomalies in the timeline and correcting them.
Shipboard Systems (Sensors) (Temporal Systems) (Shields) 1 (2) (2) (2)
History (choose specialization) 1 (2)
Historical Field Study
Same as academy package plus the following:
Language (Choose language of period/planet) 1
Sense of Time (+1) OR Cultural Flexibility (+1)
Given that most of the timefleet/future characters we've seen have been subject to horrible timeline-related trauma, I'm sure theres a 'McFly Syndrome' disadvantage to be had somewhere. Figuring out how to trigger it might be problematic though...
Just a point about the "Historical Field Study" package: Non-interference? But the very act of being in the past is interference, and we all know it's "human" nature (and young SF character's are even worse) to get involved with the persons/events around them.
Admiral 5 of 12 can tell them all about the dangers of getting involved with in "Historical Events", but when they see someone about to be killed, you KNOW they are going to save them, and thus doom the Temporal Federation to become the Second Terran Empire!
Of course, what if their minds were "selectivly edited", most likely when they were dumped in the past? Maybe they don't even remember the TF; they think this is their native timeline. Or, maybe they know they are from the future, but all information about the current situation has been locked from their conscious mind.
Just my two temporal credits!
Yeah, we're talking something incredibly dangerous here. It's likely that most of Timefleet's job is flying around making sure people aren't time-travelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
Which means Yithian-style mind-projection (into a being's unconscious mind) might be a popular means of observation–and escaping.
There's another thing to consider–what if Timefleet is a multinational organization, including representatives from a number of intergalactic powers? The Wells and Aeon class ships could be just the Federation's hardware.
Mind Transference would be a safer route to travel (and give Scott Backula more work...;) ).
Along the lines of "who's in the Time fleet?", who would their enemies be? I mean it took 300 years to bring Klingons into line with Federation thinking. How long would Romulans and Cardassians be our enemies? With Odo acting as head founder (or at least sharing his own experiences with the Link), how long would the Dominion be a threat? What about the Borg? (one novel idea is that there are in the future multiple Collectives, some allies, some enemies, and some just off on their own)
Then theres a the possibility that the big bad in the future is someone or something no on in the "present" galactic scene could have forseen. For example, just 50 years ago, the USSR and "Red" China were our enemies, and the peoples of the middle east were some one else's problem (namely Israel and European countries with colonies).
Now, China is our biggest trade partner to the point that war with them is almost unthinkable for either party. Russia was our ally and remains one on paper, but they seem to be slowly becoming our enemy again. And while those Middle Eastern nations are still by and large someone else's problem, fringe groups from those countries did something that none of our Cold War enemies did: attack and destroy targets inside the US! (Imagine a person from 1958's reaction to Ground Zero; he probably wouldn't believe you when you told him it wasn't "Commie Basturds!")
So, the threat race in a Time fleet setting could be anyone. A race that was recently encountered; extra-galactic (or dimentional) invaders; a recently concieved threat (It all started when the Bynars found the Machine planet......), or maybe even breakaway members of the UFP!:eek:
The Romulan Stellar Alliance, an egalitarian, utopian, multi-species republic that evolved out of a Romulan Star Empire that conquered the Alpha Quadrant in the late 22nd century. The Kelvan Loyalist Faction. Psychic parasites that live in the blood from the Triangulum Galaxy. The Great Race of Yith. Devidians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tricky
And the Other Timefleet Officers, who've succumbed to temporal psychosis and ran off into the depths of time. Including their future versions.
Romulus already has a strong Surakist/unification movement. Depending on how postwar reconstruction and cultural shifts post-DW might go, Cardassia might be a member by the end of the 24th century.Quote:
I mean it took 300 years to bring Klingons into line with Federation thinking. How long would Romulans and Cardassians be our enemies?
Would the Vorta seize power if the Founders absconded, or attempted to dismantle the Dominion's structure? If they just let go of power, what leaders will billions and billions of people look to for help? While the Teplans might be happy, there's thousands of worlds who've built their economies and social structure on the foundation of the Dominion keeping order. Without that, they have to take care of themselves, and scared people in chaotic situations tend to look for whoever seems like the strongest leader.Quote:
With Odo acting as head founder (or at least sharing his own experiences with the Link), how long would the Dominion be a threat?
There's probably multiple collectives in the present; the Federation just doesn't know how to talk to it/them. At least one/all part has probably joined the Federation.Quote:
What about the Borg? (one novel idea is that there are in the future multiple Collectives, some allies, some enemies, and some just off on their own)
Unless you're playing a Temporal War game (which forces the Narrator to ask not just what era they're playing in, but which iteration of era...) or a Long Road to Temporal Peace game, you don't need one overarching enemy. A series built around just exploration episodes and timeline policing (and first contact with particularly weird life-forms) could be awesome.Quote:
So, the threat race in a Time fleet setting could be anyone. A race that was recently encountered; extra-galactic (or dimentional) invaders; a recently concieved threat (It all started when the Bynars found the Machine planet......), or maybe even breakaway members of the UFP!:eek:
Ok, TK, was that stuff all yours or did you get it somewhere, because it all sounded really good. Are you sure YOU'RE not a Time agent? ;)
Yeah exploring space AND time would be cool, and the first contacts at that level would be so unique; when you think that you're meeting a race that has at least stellar and temporal travel capabilities (and perhaps dimentional?) they are going to have to be more than just "klingons, but lizard like and telepathic!" that you can whip up on the fly. They are going to have to be as sophistcated (or more so) then the Timefleet itself!
Thinking about it, TOS and NG had no "big bad"; that started with DS9 and continued. While I like having an enemy to go against, there is something to be said of just having the exploration stories that you get from having all of time and space open to you.
It's all jazz, man, it's all jazz.
Another, wackier option is to do a 'Gunsmoke in time' series. Watching over temporal safehouse somewhere in, say 1000AD Constantinople, or 3000BC Gol, watching out for temporal incursions and observing the natives. Kind of like all those Doctor Who stories where he's hanging out on contemporary Earth (only no UNIT, unless they're 'supposed' to be assisting the natives). Alternatively, the 'outpost' could be outside or beside time, a gatepost temporal travellers pass through on their way futureward or pastward.
One idea I had for a temporal campaign was to sorta have it 'spin off' of a regular campaign; You have a regular ship and crew, with some sorta threat showing up. Then you pull an "Ensign Daniels" and have someone on the ship be a time agent/timefleet operative, who then explains that what is happening isn't was was supposed to happen, and then the crew becomes part of (at least for the time being, no pun intended) the attempt to fix the situation.
I sorta like that outpost idea though....
One thing that always makes me wonder about time travel based fiction and gameing is that there are supposedly many possible futures, and events in the past shape what future you go to. So, from a 24th century perspective, yes there is a friendly and very familar Timefleet, basicly an outgrowth of Starfleet.
But, there quite possibly could be, from various alternate futures; The Romulan Temporal Empire, A 27th century Borg Mega-Collective (every sentient being is now Borg), The Vorta Ascendence (one the Founders evolved beyond our plane of existance they filled the void), The Andromedan Temporal Insurgancy (ensuring that they will conquer us by the 29th century), and Rodenberry knows what else, all vying for a chance to ensure that their present (our future) is the only one.
The Time/space Continum could become a busy place!
In the Gurps infinite worlds book they used something like that for the time travel part of the book. There were two (possible) features and they could all operate in the past, but not in each others future. They tried to make sure certain events happened to ensure their future. But the outcome of changes was a very uncertain factor, as well as what was good for their history. They also worked on the premise of certain time blackouts, certain parts of history that were not accessible. The same held for the last 40 years (as seen from the now) which could also not be accessed. Quite some interesting ideas in there (also for parallel world)