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Obviously this is a spoiler filled thread.
So with all the negative Trek talk. What did you like?
What worked for you?
I'll start and post more as they come to me.
I loved Dontara. I think Dina Meyers played a Romulan very well and the scrip helped her.
Let's see what I liked;
1) The Enterprise-E, love the Sovereign-class
2) The new Warbirds, sorry didn't see Klingon ships.
3) Uhhh, nope that's it.
1. The ships, including the redesigned interior (undecided about Scimitar but is impressed with the size)
2. The Argo shuttle and land vehicle
3. Dina Meyer (already she's showing up in my Romulan Sex Slave Fantasy)
4. Worf
5. Riker promoted to Captain (finally!)
I loved the film, here are some of my favs:
1) the fights were awsome.
2) the plot was good
3) The music was good
4) and everything the other ppl above me said, except for REG's whole Romulan sex thing :)
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1) Better uniforms.
2) Donatra (Dina Meyer)
3) Sovreign Class ship
4) Patrick Stewart can make any dialog sound good.
5) The theme of "doubles". This movie would have been better with Lore instead of "B-4", but they couldn't figure out how to bring him "back".
6) Data's "space dive"
7) The general look of the Remans.
You were able to find a plot? Wow I'm impressed! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Chang
2) the plot was good
Ok, I'm probably lining myself up for something here, but who is Dina Meyer?
Winkies aside, can we please keep this on the good points of Nemesis, there are plenty of threads for bashing it.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom
You were able to find a plot? Wow I'm impressed! ;)
And Dina Meyer was the female Romulan Commander. She was also in Starship Troopers (as Dizzy). . . Oh heck here check out her IMDb entry
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Meyer,+Dina
Dina Meyer also played Oracle on BoP
Mmmm redhead in wheelchair! :D
Wow! She looks so different. I never in a million years would have said the actress who played Barb Gordon was the same as Diz in Troopers. Let alone as that Romulan Commander.
Yet again, I am impressed.
Sorry couldn't help myself. Won't.(must)..happen.(resist)..again (temptation.) Promise :)Quote:
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Winkies aside, can we please keep this on the good points of Nemesis, there are plenty of threads for bashing it.
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Agressive, non-agressive.. don't matter :)Quote:
Then again I've always like agressive redheads.
Redheads rule! Period! :D
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Yessss Masterrrrrr!
Coffee? :D
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Any chance of getting this thread back on topic?
Thanks.
AmenQuote:
Originally posted by Don Mappin
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Don't say I never try to help. ;)Quote:
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Ok, I did like Ron Pearlman as the Viceroy. I do have to put a negative point here, he was way under used. But, I did start with a positive.
Well it wouldn't be you Phantom if there wasn't a negative with the positive.Quote:
Originally posted by Phantom
I did like Ron Pearlman as the Viceroy. I do have to put a negative point here, he was way under used. But, I did start with a positive.
Two positives in a row? You okay? Do you want to lay down? ;)
Okay I also liked the look of the Scopions. I thought they were keen :)
I'll give you that, the Scorpions looked cool, but flying one down the corridor of a ship? Sorry about the negative...I am trying...really.Quote:
Originally posted by AslanC
Well it wouldn't be you Phantom if there wasn't a negative with the positive.
Okay I also liked the look of the Scopions. I thought they were keen :)
OK, back on track here:
1) Riker finally getting his 4th Pip, he's long over due, and I think should make One Pip Admiral in under a year.
2) Seeing the Enterprise in all her glory once more. OK, so she had to ram at the end. But if anyone has read the ST:Avenger one notes that if you still have a considerable SIF left, or shields, you can use the sharp edge of a saucer section like a razor.
3) The background story, of the non talking Welsey Crusher. So why is he back in a Star Fleet uniform? Was that one or two pips that I saw in that 3 second shot? Did the Traveller get sick and tired of him always finding the answers before he?
4) That Romulan Commander. Someone who I'd like to see in the next movie.
I liked the battle sequence.
I liked the new Warbirds.
The rest was weak.
1) Shinzon, all the way. COOLEST TNG MOVIE VILLIAN! This guy rules!
2) Riker and Troi's wedding. Great lines from Picard, and Data singing was a riot.
3) The Scimitar. I want one of those for my birthday this year!:D
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I actually had a lot of fun watching Nemesis, despite the clunky parts. Right from Stewart's excellent work during Picard's toast, I knew I would enjoy myself.
1) Picard's toast
2) the way the script acknowledged that these chaarcters have been together for 15 years
3) The ram
4) Data's space dive (why has noone thought of this before?)
5) the costuming (whoever decided to get rid of those ridiculous Romulan uniforms from the series should be given a medal. Nice throwback to the TOS Romulan uniforms)
6) the Scimitar
7) seeing lots of Romulan (and Reman)...stuff.
Oh, and FINALLY, after two movies, we finally get some nice reverent beauty-shots of the Enterprise-E. About time.
I liked Shinzon (as a character, that is), and I liked the dialogues between Picard and Shinzon. I thought the script and performance did a good job portraying him as pathetic and petty in a sophisticated way, and it reinforced well the message that Shinzon could have been better than he was.
I liked the regular cast's character moments. I regret some of those that were edited out.
I liked the hints of Reman compassion (although those were too underplayed in favor of the "looming villain" motif), and I liked seeing the Romulans express some sense of honor and morality when Shinzon's real objectives became clear.
I liked the "wake" scene with the toast and Riker's story. It put a human face on Data's death and the crew's grief, and personalized it in a way that Spock's funeral didn't.
I liked the coda scene as B-4 integrates some of Data's memory and Picard sees that glimmer of hope. I would rather not see that become a "resurrection" for Data--rather, I imagine B-4's integration of parts of Data's identity as a kind of afterlife.
Saw it last night. Only 5 days after its UK release and only 20 or so folks in the cinema. :(
I liked:
The ramming.
Character moments.
The fight with the cloaked Scimitar.
The new Warbirds.
Things I liked about Nemesis.
1) The sets.
2) Some of the script.
3) Dina (Hubba-hubba) Meyer as a Romulan (not that I recognised her since the only other thing I've seen her in was Starship Troopers).
4) The fact that they used the dry dock music from The Motion Picture for the shots of the E-E being repaired at the end.
5) The bloke who used to play Jim Robinson in Neighbours as the chief Romulan at the start.
6) The ships.
7) Actually spotting the guy who directed X-Men as a Tactical officer (He's in the film for something like 3 seconds taking over from Worf when the Remans beam on board).
8) The front of the bridge getting blown out (or is it up).
Wait a minute. Bryan Singer made a brief appearance in the movie?Quote:
Originally posted by silverthorn
7) Actually spotting the guy who directed X-Men as a Tactical officer (He's in the film for something like 3 seconds taking over from Worf when the Remans beam on board).
Would have loved to see Halle Berry (* wolf whistles *) and Hugh Jackman (the guy has the face of a nobleman) as Romulans.
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Yes, Bryan Singer (in a moment of brain-not-workingness I couldn't remember his name) is in Nemesis.
Apparantly he's a big Star Trek fan and Patrick Stewart organised him a cameo as a birthday present.
Apparantly he had a line of dialogue but it was cut (it'll probably be on the DVD).
He's the officer who replaces Worf at Tactical as Worf goes to open up a family size bucket of whup-a*s on the Reman boarding party.
I knew Bryan was in the movie since he raved about being on the set of Nemesis in a magazine interview last year and recognised him from seeing on the special features on the X-Men movie DVD.
As a afterthought, here's another thing I liked about Nemesis.
9) The high quality of the trailers before the film. Matrix sequels, Terminator 3 (that looks so sweet) and Daredevil (I was shocked it didn't look like it will suck as much as I expected).
Ok, finally got time (and a babysitter) to go see Nemesis:
1) Data's death...very well done, best death in Trek yet.
2) The new Romulan Warbird (light) coooool
3) Nebula battles rock...but the cloaking should have been noticed...Mr. Worf aim for the big hole in the gases...
4) Shinzon, goes to show Tactical Genius is a heritage.
5) Diz...a Romulan, I thought she looked familar, with everyone else on the "Hubba Hubba" and with honor.
6) Didn't care for the wedding singer bit that much...but it was better than "An Ode to Spot".
7) Did I mention nebula battles rock!!! Ran out of torpedoes, damn!
All in all, I found it enjoyable. Worth the ticket price.
Finally saw Nemesis. I like it overall. The high points for me:
1) The wedding sequence. Picard's toast and Data's song were both outstanding.
2) The battle sequence. Scimitar vs. Sovereign, with the fate of Earth in the balance. Ramming demonstrated just how dedicated these people really are. Data's death was well done.
3) The interplay between Picard and Shinzon was well done.
4) Riker got his fourth pip! It's about time! I'm looking forward to "Star Trek XI: The Voyages of U.S.S. Titan."