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All right, why didn't one of you Betazoids out there tell me to post a poll with the other thread? Please indicate what your second language is. If the options are off enough, would anyone object to me or someone else posting a poll later with more representative ones?
I can't vote, since I only speak English (heck, I went for a B.S. degree instead of a B.A. degree because the B.A. had a secondary language requirement)...
Still, I'm surprised that a Klingon option isn't on the list. Seems fitting for a Trek message board! ;)
Greg
Hey, only ten slots. Klingon was definately one I thought about including.
Well, Latin is the closest thing I have to real second language.
German would be a distant third.
Everything else is minimal at best -- restaurant French, survival Mexican-Spanish, about 300 mis-matched words in Japanese, the odd word here and there in a couple dozen languages
In the words of Churchy Le Femme, "I kin make m'self misunderstood in over t'enty-seven lang'ages!" ;)
I couldn't vote either. I'm not fluent enough in any other language than English to call it a second language.
Unless, of course, the language of love counts.
That I'm extremely fluent in, with a regional accent. ;)
bad english counts... right..
Hey, I'm not fluent in any foreign language. Go ahead and vote for the language you know most of other than your native language, no matter how little you know.
How do you define second? I speak English, French, Italian, Arabic; can read Spanish and Portuguese...
Okay, how about your favorite language that is foreign to you?
Well, if that's the case, then I'll put my vote in for Elvish (Sindarin, to be accurate). I've got a set of instructional programs to really learn Sindarin and Quenya, but I haven't started yet (it's going to be a summer project, I think).Quote:
Originally posted by Cochrane
Hey, I'm not fluent in any foreign language. Go ahead and vote for the language you know most of other than your native language, no matter how little you know.
Greg
Italian...actually like it more than English.Quote:
Originally posted by Cochrane
Okay, how about your favorite language that is foreign to you?
Okay, so there's one book commonly available in stores now that teaches how to speak multiple Tolkien languages? I've never thought to look for that kind of thing while at a book store, but I'll have to try to remember to look.
American Sign Language is my second...
Not a book that I know of (but it'd be worth looking into), but rather a series of language lessons that I downloaded. I'll hunt up the link for you, Cochrane, if you'd like. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Cochrane
Okay, so there's one book commonly available in stores now that teaches how to speak multiple Tolkien languages? I've never thought to look for that kind of thing while at a book store, but I'll have to try to remember to look.
Greg
Actually, there is a book. It's titled "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth," by Ruth S. Noel. I haven't read it (got it for my wife) so I can't attest to the quality...Quote:
Originally posted by Greg Davis
Not a book that I know of (but it'd be worth looking into), but rather a series of language lessons that I downloaded.
That's the book that I use for all of my translation purposes, Jim, and it works pretty good. There are also a number of internet sites dedicated to the languages of Tolkien, and, as I mentioned, downloadable instructional programs, though, like I said, I haven't really done anything with them.
Greg
If you have studied and retained any vocabulary and grammar from a second language, then you have acquired a second language.
Fluency is a whole different issue. . . .
qerlin: I like all the other Germanic languages better than English. Even Gothic! I also like Hebrew better than English.
Exactly the opposite, cochrane. I hate the Germanic and Semitic languages, in general. Just plain ugly, IMO. Though German is the perfect language to shout at people in; you can say "How beautiful you are!" and non-speakers think you're gonna kill them. :D
Arabic and Hebrew just sound like you're gonna hock one up. :p
The Romance languages just flow better. Italian and Spanish (real Spanish, not the Amero-Mexi-Rican version) are tops, I thnk. Japanese sounds great & is easy to learn to speak...but pick a friggin' character set guys! :D
Had to think for a while before deciding between German and English ... but I guess my English is a bit better than my German, so English I voted.
That said, I think German is perfect for scientific minded people. Very precise (sometimes painstakingly, just look at the German version of any product's instructions, it's twice as long as any other language ;) ), very logical (or at least rule heavy). Of course, it sounds a bit harsh. Try female Japanese for a language that sounds nice :) (but not male Japanese, which sounds worse than German ;) ).
Does speaking Jibberish count as a second language? I speak it fluently. :D
I know a smattering of German, but not enough to carry a conversation with someone who doesn't speak English. Of course, I live in Canada, so I know a fair bit of French, but only Quebecois swear words. ;)
How about Newfoundland English? Believe me, if you don't have a clue, you won't understand it!
Cheers,
Steve
This book is OK, but it was published before The Silmarillion, and has some extensive errors. Best bet is to go online, here's a list of places to get you started:Quote:
Originally posted by Ineti
Actually, there is a book. It's titled "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth," by Ruth S. Noel. I haven't read it (got it for my wife) so I can't attest to the quality...
www.ardalambion.com - The best source for Tolkienian linguistics on the net. Essays on Sindarin, Quenya, Noldorin and lots more by Helge K. Fauskanger.
www.elvish.org/gwaith - A good source for information on Sindarin. Has a nice summary of Sindarin grammer as well as sound clips of Elvish from the movies.
www.councilofelrond.com - Online class for Sindarin. Lots of elven language resources.
www.eldalamberon.com - Art, music and language and info about Parma Eldalamberon, “The book of Elven Tounges” which contain the most extensive lexicon of the elven languages from Tolkein’s notes.
Yes, this is what I do with my time, Ineti. My secret is out, and you know all my elven resources. :D :D
S'okay, babe. I know where you work and how terribly busy you are, sometimes. ;)Quote:
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Yes, this is what I do with my time, Ineti. My secret is out, and you know all my elven resources. :D :D
Does Technobabble count as a second language? 'cause I'm fluent :)
My second language is Englishmy third is Latin and very distant far off is Spanish.
I like Sign Language and Castillian.
I have some Spanish, and a smattering (Not more than 20 words) of about a dozen other languages.
However, I chose "Other," because of all the non-english languages, the one I speak most fluently, almost as good as a native...
...is "Cat."
http://videoforcats.com/cattalk.htm (The basics)