FASA's Triangle setting

Just wondering how many people are narrating games set in the old Triangle setting FASA produced. I'm currently working on redrawing the Triangle map, and while I still have a quite a bit to do, I thought I'd share a small sample with ya'all.

http://ussintrepid.net/companel/uplo...1055022135.jpg

My intention is to try and fit this into Starcharts, and to add in those planets that aren't part of the official setting, but which have appeared in my campaign. Hopefully, it'll all be part of an online Triangle resource for my players, along with the other major setting I use for my 24th Century game.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?

WHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Aslan :)

Anyway, what I hope to do is write up all the 'official' Triangle Worlds, as well as any I've added in myself. I'll probably expand on some of the FASA writeups as well, and wil leventually get around to doing the major NPCs in the region. I might even throw in a few possible plot hooks.

Of course, this is kind of a long term project, so it'll probably take me until next year to finish :rolleyes:

Seriously dude....

I love the Triangle :)

I still have my copy and every now and then flip through it fo old times sake :)

Nice stuff and I am very much looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

You can bet that fans will want to see more.

A while back, there was actually a fan club called the Imperial Klingon States. It was a splinter group from the original Klingon Assault Group club and used the FASA material as the basis for its fictional existence.

I never owned any of the Triangle material, but I was aware of it. In fact, I'm going to be using the IKS concept in an upcoming game. . . only its going to be established by the Duras family in the post- TNG/DS9/VOY era.

Finally, enemy Klingons for post TOS players that aren't rogues, pirates, or criminals. . . just political dissidents.

I love the IKS

But they really work better after Trek 6

An update on the map:

http://ussintrepid.net/companel/uplo...1055070499.jpg

The IKS are pretty useful. In my campaign though, they're smooth head Klingons who refused to revert to the old ways. Basically, I'm using the smoothheads much as Dayton Ward in the novel In The Name of Honor. In that book, the TOS era guys were becoming bumpy-headed again, and returning to the ways of Kahless, and eschewing the scheming TOS era ways. No explanation is given as to the change. However, some of the TOS smoothies preferred not to embrace the old ways, thus causing a schism between the honourless targ smoothies who didn't want to change, and the traditionalists who restored their original Klingon appearance and ways. (Which also explains Kang, Kor and Koloth).

Anyway, like 'em or loath 'em, the smooth-headed thing can be an interesting plot device, especially if you add in the different idealogies and behaviours of the TOS Klingons versus the 'modern' Klingons. So I figured why not use it :) And it's a plot line in my 23rd century campaign, which will probably raise it's head in my 24th century game at some stage.

Hey Capt...

Good job, I like the idea although I do not know the trainlge setting very well. My question is, how do you make gridlines on your maps?

The gridlines are fairly easy. I use CorelDRAW for my maps, so I just draw two lines at right angles, then copy and paste, moving each line a fixed distance so as to keep them equidistant.

Though in this case, I actually just did it by eye, since I was tracing from an original map.

There may be a function for drawing gridlines in Corel somewhere, but I've never managed to find it. That said, I've never looked very hard either.

I've been spending FAR too much time on this today:

http://ussintrepid.net/companel/uplo...1055095821.jpg

Each gridline approximates about 2 parsecs across. In fact, if you have a look at the top right corner you can actually just make out the little red scale line I've drawn on, but haven't detailed yet.

Now this is just a very small version of the map. The entire thing is pretty big (and I still have work to do to it). I plan to break it down into sectors, at least a dozen, quite possibly more, so I can post the maps at a usable resolution. Though I will probably make the full size map available as a download.

COOL!!!! Just about every campaign I have ever run and a good number of my mini's have at least ended up in the Triangle at one point or another. Two campaigns were spent entirely in the Triangle.

Now I have an urge to work an angle for the new campaign and see about popping in to the Triangle to see if the new group falls in love with it and if so perhaps a new campaign will come from that. :D

Regards,
CKV.

Nice work Cpt Hunter :D

I'll have to pull out the Triangle mod and do some comparing ;)

Cheers folks :)

I spent quite a while last night trying to find a way to fit The Triangle into Starcharts, and I have to admit it isn't really a good fit. That said, I've scaled it down very slightly (about 10 % - which isn't much since it's a pretty large area anyway) and am going to assume it's sitting in a different plane than the maps in Starcharts (and of course, the borders may well have changed from the movie era, to the time 24th century). However, I am going to take a few landmarks from Starcharts (such as Rura Penthe and the Azure Nebula) to orient the area in relation to Starcharts. I've done most of that, and have converted the grid to 20 light year squares. Of course, when I break the map down into sector treatments, I'll re-grid it with a smaller scale.

There are also a few things that just don't fit. Starbase 10, for instance, just doesn't work in that location. I may fit in some sort of outpost there though. Possibly a subspace monitoring post or something.

Talking of the Azure Nebula, the way I've fitted this together, it's going to intrude on the Turnstile, which will probably work quite well, making that area an even hoter bed of intrigue, being right beside a neat backdoor into Klingon space.

Sig, any suggestions you might have would be gratefully accepted :)

I'm loving this my man, please keep us posted :)

Are you going to include the Orion Colonies?

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Anyway, what I hope to do is write up all the 'official' Triangle Worlds, as well as any I've added in myself. I'll probably expand on some of the FASA writeups as well, and wil leventually get around to doing the major NPCs in the region. I might even throw in a few possible plot hooks.

Of course, this is kind of a long term project, so it'll probably take me until next year to finish :rolleyes:

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When the project is done the FASA to CODA e-group (maybe web site by that time) would be proud to be home and host of this project. I also extend all the current resources as well. You oaght to post something over there as well, alot of the guys who came over from the Starship Combat Simulator group and don;t come around here might have some comments as well for you. :)

BTW Do you plan to do the setting for TNG era or TOS?

What is the link for the FASA to CODA?

My plan is to initially produce the reworking as an online resource for my players. However, once that's done it won't be any great effort to convert the files to pdf format so it's available for anyone that wants it. I might make it CODA and ICON compatible, but CODA is kind of my priority at the moment.

The Orion colonies I'm not sure about. I'd need to expand it a bit to be able to fit them in. If nothing else, I'll certainly put in some text about how far away they are and in what direction. The Orion Frontier Merchantile Association Worlds are of course a part of the Triangle (The Turnstile). The time period I'm working on fir this at the moment is 2274 (post TMP) since that's when and where my TMP Lexington campaign and my TMP Trader campaigns are set. That said, I will probably do a 24th century update, to at least cover the changes in borders and the shifting alliances (such as what happened to the IKS, the AOFW, etc) and possibly do a redraw of the map with new borders. But again, this is going to take me a few months.

And yes, once it's all finished, I'd be happy to make the pdf available to the FASA to CODA group. What's the address?

Here you go, I have some stuff in the file section besure to check it out. :)


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FASAto...yguid=47650994

Y'know I must be slow today. I'm already a member.

Anyway, I'm hoping to get a revised version of the map semi-ready tonight. I'll try and post some more samples there.

Update:

http://ussintrepid.net/companel/uplo...1055264043.jpg

As I mentioned earlier, the Triangle does not fit well into the Starcharts maps. However, given the wonders of 3 dimensional space, I'm just going to assume much of it lies in a different plane than the maps in Starcharts. I figure that works OK, but feel free to disagree, or if you have a better suggestion feel free :) I did consider making this a completely different area of space along a different border, and I may still do that. However, in the meantime I've put on a few landmark locations (such as Starbase 24, Rura Penthe and the Azure Nebula). These points aren't noted on the map above, simply because I haven't labelled any of the stars yet. But I will do that fairly soon. Unless of course I decide to shift the whole area to a more workable area of space, which may stil lbe the best option. We'll see.

I'm a little reluctant to keep posting too many large pics on the forum, because I'm not sure if this is likely to be an issue for Don's server. I have posted a new image to the photos section of the FASA to CODA group if anyone is interested.

Very nice Capt!

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Y'know I must be slow today. I'm already a member.

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I thought so but heck I wont pass up a chance to advertise the site every once in awhile :)

No harm in that :)

Well anyone who is interested can find the latest version of my Triangle update map at http://www.ussintrepid.net/Graphics/tri-names3.jpg but be warned, it's about 1.5 mb and 2190x2814 pixels in size.

This version has a fair proportion of the names on it now, though I chose to put the system names on the map, as opposed to the planet names (as in the original map). If people would prefer it the other way, I'd be interested to know.

Putting both on would be great if you could manage it.

Very Very nice work otherwise

I might do two versions, one with the system names, one with the prominent planet names. Putting the planet names on is certainly less hassle than having to look up every planet listing to find out the system name :)

Do you still have the Triangle map and a way for us to view it? :)

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Do you still have the Triangle map and a way for us to view it? :)

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After reading through this thread, I'd like to see these maps too. We use a lot of the Triangle material in our series, even though it is a CODA series, and Triangle was a FASA campaign setting.

We started with FASA and I saw no reason to move our Starbase away from the confluence of Klingon, Federation, and Romulan space where it is located just because we changed games.

Wow, this takes me back a bit. :)

I should still have them buried on a hard drive somewhere. I'll see if I can dredge them up.

I'd like to see it. I always had a feeling that the Triangle's "No Man's Land" vibe is what DS-9 tried to do... and did not.

I had this idea of a post-Undiscovered Country 'DS-9' series where Starfleet and Klingons start to work together -- with Romulan and Orion agents trying to spike their efforts. The edge of the Triangle would be perfect for this.

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I'd like to see it. I always had a feeling that the Triangle's "No Man's Land" vibe is what DS-9 tried to do... and did not.

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DS9 was often described by its creators as the Gunsmoke to TOS and TNG's Wagon Train. A 'No Man's Land' is generally so because no one wants it, or exists in a state of balanced detente between two forces, whereas DS9's wormhole was explicitly a valuable resource.

The name always bugged me. Shouldn't it be 'The Tetrahedron'?

...Or the Cone. I love the Triangle setting and recently used it in my ICON campaign. I decided that the IKS is inhabited by TOS Klingons who fled the cure for the Augment virus and refuse to have anything to do with ridgeheads, considering them unclean.

http://www.coldnorth.com/owen/game/s...n/triangle.htm

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The name always bugged me. Shouldn't it be 'The Tetrahedron'?

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That reminds me of the problem I always had about DS-9's Badlands region. The name.

A huge swirly orange cloud of 'plasma storms' and they called it the Badlands. Sort of like calling the Pacific a desert.:rolleyes:

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That reminds me of the problem I always had about DS-9's Badlands region. The name.

A huge swirly orange cloud of 'plasma storms' and they called it the Badlands. Sort of like calling the Pacific a desert.:rolleyes:

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...I don't get it. Are you saying giant explody firestorms are not bad?

Sure it's BAD, but it's not very LANDish, is it?

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Sure it's BAD, but it's not very LANDish, is it?

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It's about as land-ish as the Enterprise is ship-ish.