Do we even need Decipher anymore?

[Ergi]

Originally posted by Space_Cadet
Though, I wouldn't mind if this is the last Trek RPG.

Hmrmm!

[mattcolville]

Originally posted by TFVanguard
I don't believe I have to give you any personal details about myself or those I talk to. It's none of your God Damn business, frankly, and this goading is juvenile. I don't have to prove jack over shit to the likes of you.

Accuse me all you want. I don't care. It's meaningless. I admitted that the info was wrong and I shouldn't have carried it through without knowing more. I'll even apologize for it.

But you, sir, have crossed a line in your professional handling of this. Decipher, et all, should be ashamed that they ever had you on their payroll. You're a disgrace to professionalism.

I don't work for Decipher. It's therefore not possible for me to handle this "professionally." It's a personal matter with me. Just as it is with you.

Lastly, I don't think anyone's surprised that you can't actually point me to the "people" you know who "passed on" your "information." This is directly related to my original assertion: you're making it all up.

When I did work for Decipher, and WotC, and LUG, people often made shit up. You're not the first. Now that I'm no longer professionally involved with these companies, I can call people like you out. And, typically, the response is "I don't have to tell you anything!" I don't think anyone's surprised.

To the people on this board who continue to support the game and hope for new products; those of us who worked on the previous editions are all proud our work fostered such interest in you. I certainly won't be working on a Trek game professionally again, but someone will and if their customers are as cool as you guys always have been, they'll be very happy.

[Space_Cadet]

Originally posted by mattcolville
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To the people on this board who continue to support the game and hope for new products; those of us who worked on the previous editions are all proud our work fostered such interest in you. I certainly won't be working on a Trek game professionally again, but someone will and if their customers are as cool as you guys always have been, they'll be very happy.

Mr. Colville, you rock!!!!

[tanksoldier]

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[calguard66]

Originally posted by TFVanguard

But you, sir, have crossed a line in your professional handling of this. Decipher, et all, should be ashamed that they ever had you on their payroll. You're a disgrace to professionalism.

Great choice for my first post back under the old name, but like the sig says you don't always get to choose your battles:

TFVanguard, you need to chill.

Everywhere I see you on this board you're posting "information" you've obviously pulled out of your backside or otherwise being a negative jackass. When one of the many individuals who frequent these boards who _is_ on the "inside" calls you on it, you get defensive.

I've been on these boards a long time, years in fact. Before the real world intruded and my military duties took me away from my keyboard I was in the top 5 most frequent posters on this board. There are others who've been here longer than I have and those who have contributed much more. There are professionals from the gaming industry here who put forth the effort to give us these products and who are impacted far more by these Decipher problems than we are... we only are missing out on game products, they are missing out on paychecks. Last and most important there's Owen who provides this space out of the goodness of his heart.

None of us need a newbie like you popping up out of nowhere and posting bullcrap and throwing around your attitude. In my not so humble and completely unofficial opinion, you can learn to play nice or take a hike.

For the old timers here, anybody remember the "Red Quacker"?

[Owen E Oulton]

"Last and most important there's Owen who provides this space out of the goodness of his heart."

Nope, that's Don Mappin (Dan Moppin's evil twin). I host the former info from the main site over on Memory:ICON, but TrekRPG.net and the Forums are all Don's.

[tanksoldier]

I stand corrected. I've been away for a while.

Originally posted by Owen E Oulton
"Last and most important there's Owen who provides this space out of the goodness of his heart."

Nope, that's Don Mappin (Dan Moppin's evil twin). I host the former info from the main site over on Memory:ICON, but TrekRPG.net and the Forums are all Don's.

[D.S.McBride]

Originally posted by mattcolville
To the people on this board who continue to support the game and hope for new products; those of us who worked on the previous editions are all proud our work fostered such interest in you. I certainly won't be working on a Trek game professionally again, but someone will and if their customers are as cool as you guys always have been, they'll be very happy.

Proof once again that, whatever problems existed at Decipher with regard to Trek, it wasn't from the ex-LUG end.

Like countless others here, I mourned the dissolution of Last Unicorn and hoped for the best with Decipher. It seems that the details on Decipher's managerial/administrative conduct keep getting uglier the longer the situation drags on, but we know the current debacle wasn't for a lack of effort on the LUG crew's part.

It's truly unfortunate that we'll likely never see that grouping of creative intellects again. It was a brief, shining moment...but that's not to say that what follows, our work or not, can't be just as good, or maybe even better.

And for calguard66: Oh yeah, I remember the Quacker. If I recall correctly, it was back in - oh, late '00 when that particular social deviant cropped up. The ramblings, the subliminated pathological chants, the "just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean you're not out to get me" lines...the wonder isn't that Don and the moderators jumped on him like a Panzer division and shut him down; the wonder is that he lasted as long as he did.

I remember I came very close to signing on during that period, wanting to post a summation of the whole experience called "The Ultimate Quacker". It was going to be about this mad scientist who creates the ultimate Web site - it's insane, of course, but no one knows that at first - and it then proceeds to flame anyone who comes in contact with it. The parody would have ended with Captain Don Mappin stating, "The Red Quacker must be destroyed." Said mad scientist turns to him, voice tembling, and sobs, "Destroyed, Mappin? No, look what we've done - your mighty role-playing games, four toys to be crushed as we choose!" The nerve pinch by second-in-command Oulton and the logical figure eight that convinces the site to delete itself follows.

It would have been fun. I wonder what rehabilitation colony ol' Red has gotten himself assigned to since then...

[Mac417]

Is there video of the Quacker's prior victim, naked and doused in Mountain Dew Livewire, hands outstretched with a d20 in each hand, saying "Save yourself from hell in Latin"?

Oh, wait, that's my spec script for "Event Horizon 2: Gamer Boogaloo."

[tonyg]

Hey folks,

While I am one who loves to debate all aspects of TREK (inluding that topic which is forbittden- SFM), I think that this argument over who knew what inside info or not has gotten out of hand.

Swearing, insulting each ofther and accusing people of lying, drawing references to past "problem members" and putting up images designed to annoy is not what this topic is supposed to be about. I don't believe it is what Don wants on his board either, although I certainly can't speak for him.

Maybe Vanguard was out of line or making stuff up. Maybe. But at least he is new to the boards.

What excuse do the long time members of this forum have?

How 'bout we IDIC this and get back on to the topic before the Organians (moderators) show up and tell us to play nice.

[Mac417]

Amen to that, Tony... though I think the point was made essentially moot once Vanguard elected to leave the boards in a profanity-laced huff.

But as you said, neither here nor there.

So.

The future of Trek RPGs.

I've actually compiled "intro timelines" for each of the "modern" Trek series. Did have a question though, which means I'll have to modify them dependent on the answer...

Is it generally accepted that a TNG/DS9/Voyager season begins and ends with the beginning of a new year? Reason I ask is that I based my timeline on a VERY detailed Trek timeline online, but it doesn't hold to that (he has TNG Season 1 taking place between Sept. 2363 and July 2364, I think).

[Ergi]

Originally posted by Mac417
Is it generally accepted that a TNG/DS9/Voyager season begins and ends with the beginning of a new year?

Yes, , according to official sources .

[Dan Stack]

Moderator (who enjoyed his Memorial Day weekend, thank you very much) mode on...

I think we've had enough discussion about whether or not a company can have both Star Wars and Star Trek licenses at the same time. I think we've also exhausted discussing the origin of such claims and the manner in which those claims are made, defended, or debunked.

[AslanC]

Originally posted by Space_Cadet
Mr. Colville, you rock!!!!

Space cadet you are quickly becoming my new hero

[AslanC]

Originally posted by Mac417
Is there video of the Quacker's prior victim, naked and doused in Mountain Dew Livewire, hands outstretched with a d20 in each hand, saying "Save yourself from hell in Latin"?

Oh, wait, that's my spec script for "Event Horizon 2: Gamer Boogaloo."

Awww crap, now its become a tie for my new hero! Dang.