View Poll Results: Is Battlestar Galactica the end of Enterprise?

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  • Battlestar Galactica is the deathblow of Enterprise?

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  • Enterprise the deathblow of Battlestar Galactica?

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  • Enterprise and Battlestar Galactica will both continue!

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  • <joke> Sponge Bob Squirepants is the deathblow to Enterprise and Battlestar Galactica!

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Thread: Is BSG the Deathblow to Enterprise?

  1. 01-28-2005, 03:58 PM #31
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    Ok how about an option:

    Tv reality shows will be the death of Startrek and Battlestar galactica franchises..

    That one gets my vote!
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  2. 01-28-2005, 04:43 PM #32
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    Or how about "Mainstream audience will be the death of genre fans"?

    Sorry, I'm still pissed Spider-Man 2 is not nominated for Best Picture. <mocking voice> It's The Avia-TOR.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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  3. 01-28-2005, 08:18 PM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobian
    Ok how about an option:

    Tv reality shows will be the death of Startrek and Battlestar galactica franchises..

    That one gets my vote!
    Mine too . BTW, Erzi's Toy hit the spot. No ghetto sci fi show with an adolecent view of the world is going to hold a candle against Star Trek or Star Wars. The thing that Star Trek and Star Wars has going for them is mainstream notieriety, which no other live action scif-fi show can never achieve, especially in this climate of tv shows.
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  4. 01-28-2005, 09:00 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobian

    If I like something I watch it, if I don't I don't, there isn't another way to watch TV, So I don't know how this poll can make any sense!
    No! You must bow to MY will and respect MY power! ALL OF YOU! ALL OF YOU! ALL OF YOU!

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  5. 01-28-2005, 09:08 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkp1187
    C'mon, you can do it. Seen you do it elsewhere. In that case, I take your arguments more seriously.

    And no, that's not something you need care about. It just defines how I react in various contexts.

    That being said, perhaps its time to bail on these "general chat" threads....sometimes it's best to not talk amongst fools, lest people be unable to tell the difference....
    Damn I'm using the 'words you have said' power against you - yes you said this.. remember... So glad I joined the intelectual debate
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  6. 01-28-2005, 10:17 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobian
    Damn I'm using the 'words you have said' power against you - yes you said this.. remember... So glad I joined the intelectual debate
    More like I finally learned to stop worrying and become a fool?
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  7. 01-28-2005, 11:10 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkp1187
    No! You must bow to MY will and respect MY power! ALL OF YOU! ALL OF YOU! ALL OF YOU!

    Why does jkp sounds like Princess Megabucks from the Powerpuff Girls?
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  8. 01-28-2005, 11:37 PM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space_Cadet
    Mine too . BTW, Erzi's Toy hit the spot. No ghetto sci fi show with an adolecent view of the world is going to hold a candle against Star Trek or Star Wars. The thing that Star Trek and Star Wars has going for them is mainstream notieriety, which no other live action scif-fi show can never achieve, especially in this climate of tv shows.
    They have a lot of exposures and headstarts. Rookie sci-fi TV shows have to compete with them, but they can achieve. Babylon 5 pretty much made its way to become an icon, so are those weird Brit-produced TV shows, Dr. Who and Red Dwarf.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

    "My philosophy is 'you don't need me to tell you how to play -- I'll just provide some rules and ideas to use and get out of your way.'"
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  9. 01-29-2005, 08:53 AM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Tyger
    Why does jkp sounds like Princess Megabucks from the Powerpuff Girls?
    Well, you know, it's still better than "Enterprise"....

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  10. 01-29-2005, 09:20 AM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by REG
    They have a lot of exposures and headstarts. Rookie sci-fi TV shows have to compete with them, but they can achieve. Babylon 5 pretty much made its way to become an icon, so are those weird Brit-produced TV shows, Dr. Who and Red Dwarf.
    Babylon 5 is not mainstream or at least mainstream enough compared to Star Trek or Star Wars. Its still has its strong fan base but it doesn't have the casual fans that STar Trek or Star Wars has. Same can be said about Dr. Who and Red Dwarf. Trek and Wars are household names. Ask an average guy/gal on the street about Star Trek and Star Wars they'll think of icons of those shows. But I don't think "rookie" sci-fi shows have a chance in this climate of television programming, IMO.
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  11. 01-29-2005, 10:46 AM #41
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    I think Space_cadet's got it right there. The new ones get axed before they get a chance to get a following.

    IMO, Enterprise and BSG are not competing for viewers (unless TV scheduling puts them against each other!), as a lot of people will watch both, and the Trek/Stargate style series are more likely to pull in casual viewers than the likes of BSG. I've just seen the final episode of this series, and while it was worth the wait, it took a lot of dedication to get through to this point!

    The real enemies are reality shows (I still can't believe how many we have going over here now), and the crime drama series. Do you realise CSI is now running two spin-offs after only 5 years? And Law & Order is very similar.
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  12. 01-29-2005, 11:52 AM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkp1187
    Well, you know, it's still better than "Enterprise"....

    Umm, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake_Plissken
    While I think that BSG is far superior to Enterprise, I don't think that BSG threatens Enterprise. Watching both shows is not a major problem after all! I wouldn't like Enterprise to be cancelled because I like its 'Star Trekian' upbeat attitude, as opposed to BSG's grim mood. Enterprise has a LOT of great potential just waiting there to be exploited.
    Agree on every point. Enterprise has hit its stride with the more political storylines. BSG, however, is simply superlative in character and story development.
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  14. 01-29-2005, 06:54 PM #44
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    Meh.

    FWIW, Ron D. Moore got his sweet revenge against his former colleagues, Brannon Braga & Rick Berman.

    Man, I should have kept a file of that seven-part Ron D. Moore interview of his brief employment on the VOYAGER set.

    EDIT: Found it. Originally they are Fandom articles, Cinescape archived it.

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    Part II
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    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

    "My philosophy is 'you don't need me to tell you how to play -- I'll just provide some rules and ideas to use and get out of your way.'"
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  15. 01-29-2005, 10:22 PM #45
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    I'm not much of sophisticated Trek or sci-fan but sometimes you just want to turn the idiot box after a hard day at school or work and just see the explosions, firefights and the pretty starships.
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