Farpoint Station?

[AslanC]

I am wondering where exactly Farpoint (Deneb IV) would be in relation to everything else in Star Trek. Would it be fair to say it is near the frontier and therefore near to the Bajoran Sector, or close neough by?

Just wondering what the concensus would be on such a place. Wasn't the Federation fearful the Bandi would make a deal with the Ferengi as well? That might put them close to Ferengi space...

Help?

[Cochrane]

Well, the Ferengi are in the Bajoran/ Cardassian region. I guess the writers must have been thinking about real science somewhere, because that is the right direction. Maybe we can take this as confirmation that Deneb is also about the same distance as the DS9 area... paying attention, Sir Sig?

[SIR SIG]

Oh but I am!

Around DS9 would mean they have used the 1500 ly distance and thus works well with the rest of the trek universe.
What of TOS's ref to deneb? Atleast there's no mention of a starbase (thats ST Maps) so it could work out nicely and still be a semi important frontier fed 'known' world.

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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[SIR SIG]

Ah but the Ferengi were first met a long way from there homeland by E-D 1st season. (atleast by christian's maps, have to check star ref).
???

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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[SIR SIG]

If this is the case, then where does the fed's 8000 ly come from if Denebs distance is cut in half?

Perhaps Deneb is behind carddie space, have to plot cordinates against rough bajor ones and see

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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[Owen E Oulton]

You're assuming that the 8000ly figure is on a spinward/trailing axis. It could be on a core/rim axis, or cranked at an angle...

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Owen E Oulton:
You're assuming that the 8000ly figure is on a spinward/trailing axis. It could be on a core/rim axis, or cranked at an angle...

Well when you had Deneb out one way at 3000+ ly and Rigel out the other at 1000 ly; it seemed a pretty good idea at the time

I doubt they go much further then Antares coreward, rimward? Well thats another story is Klingons aren't there first.

As for a 3d diagonal? It would need one hell of a gradient to fit 8000 ly into what 2000-3000 ly height in our area.

Maybe it really is a perimeter?

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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[Owen E Oulton]

Ahem. The Galaxy is only 1000 light years thick in our neck of the woods. There is a thin scattering of stars sometimes known as the Galactic halo that go out another thousand or so light years, but they aren't part of the Galaxy per se, and are really few and far between...

[SIR SIG]

Originally posted by Owen E Oulton:
Ahem. The Galaxy is only 1000 light years thick in our neck of the woods. There is a thin scattering of stars sometimes known as the Galactic halo that go out another thousand or so light years, but they aren't part of the Galaxy per se, and are really few and far between...

Yeh thats what I meant Owen, just the figure didn't come to mind at the posting, thus 2000-3000 for a ballpark

So back to the point then the feds would need to be 'long and thin' (breadth & height) to fit in on a diagonal.


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SIR SIG a Aussie TREK Narrator

[Caretaker]

I never thought of it that way, but logic could dictate that Farpoint is relatively close to Bajor.

In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Millennium trilogy (The Fall of Terok Nor, The War of the Prophets and Inferno), there is a Bajoran Starfleet officer, Arla, who is temporarily assigned to DS9 before she moves on to a permanent assignment in charge of Starfleet's Farpoint. That would seem to indicate Starfleet put her at a frontier outpost close to where she would be permanently transferred.

The Cardassian War had only recently ended when the Enterprise-D had her first mission, so it would seem Starfleet might try doing edxploratory work toward Cardassian and Ferengi space.

[Protius]

Cool tidbit. Oh say, do these halo stars have a long trip to get to them and do they not rotate with the other stars?

[StyroFoam Man]

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[SIR SIG]

Well if my current maps are anything to go by.

Which IMHO they are, then Deneb is still some 1460 odd ly from (spin/core) Bajor which itself is 330 odd ly (spin/rim) from Earth.

By using old astro data then we can safely say Deneb is around 1500-1600 ly from Earth.

Now if DS9/Carddie space was that far out; then how does the DW which is so far from the coreworlds effect the said worlds?

Without a cochrane factor the distances just don't jibe with current 'official' warp speeds!

Check here for some of my recent stuff:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fedsize/files/

So as much as I would like to put Deneb in the Bajor area it won't work unless some other things are changed namely warp speed.

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AKA: SirPostalot
AKA: The MapMaker
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[spyone]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SIR SIG:
Well if my current maps are anything to go by.

Which IMHO they are, then Deneb is still some 1460 odd ly from (spin/core) Bajor which itself is 330 odd ly (spin/rim) from Earth.</font>

I believe I understand why you made that choice, and I respect it. I just cut things the other way.
Later episodes of DS9 made Earth and Bajor seem very close. However, the Cardassians were only recently contacted (50 years or so), and early DS9 made Bajor seem very far from everything important.
I regart the latter as the truth and the former as Gene's axiom in action (Never Let Established Facts Get In The Way of a Good Story).

Simply, I prefer Bajor be far from Earth, though I see ample evidence that it is not.

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[SIR SIG]

Woo Hoo an objector!

Well my maps use all canon refs and reals astro data. With slight tweaks to canon sectors so they fit 'better'.

As to cut of early contact with the carddies. Simply drop the Tzenkathi in the way.

Now the feds only meet the carddies by arcing out around the bajor area.

And thus the war with the Tzenkathi got the feds a small amount of territory where they built the likes of sb375 and others.

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SIRSIG
AKA: SirPostalot
AKA: The MapMaker
AKA: The Trek Cartographer
AKA:...Well I could keep going forever