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    Rate: These Are The Voyages

    Well, you know the drill ...

    I think we needed this, if only as a way to get the frustration out of our head . So here it is!
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    If it were a mid-season episode, I'd give it a 5, 6, if it were a TNG episode.

    As the Enterprise finale, it was "appalling."
    Last edited by Sea Tyger; 05-27-2005 at 10:01 AM. Reason: Typo
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    Utter complete crap on a stick smeared with an ounce of uniagmitive droppings of a wild rambling lunatic with a hair brained idea found on the back of a box of hemmoidcream.
    Going everywhere at the speed of plot

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    I think it sucks. The last episode should have been about the forming the Federation not about Riker having problem tell Picard about the Pegus.

    I love Trip, hated how they just kill him off.

    What really made me piss off was how it end without Archer giving his speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy_Of_Borg
    What really made me piss off was how it end without Archer giving his speech.
    I guess Bermaga thought it was a very good idea. Probably slapped each other on the back for their mutual brilliance!
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    Angry

    Let's see....

    No real send off for the characters: check

    No promotion for any of the characters, in spite of serving on the fleets prototype for a decade, hammering out the bugs: check

    Annulment of potentially interesting character development: check

    Overshadowing of main characters of the show by characters from another show which B&B happened to work on moderately successfully: Check

    Mentioning of potentially interesting plot elements, later ignored or dealt with in passing: Check

    Unnessesary foreshadowing of important events which ruin the suprise in store on the show: Check.


    yup....it's another craptacular event from B&B. bastards

    I give it a big fat -1
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    You gorgot one important item:

    - Crappy story that precludes any further development of the series if bychance some network wanted to do further seasons. Check.
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    Talking

    Is there a way to give a rating lower than 1?
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    I thouht 1 was low enough, but you're right, maybe I should have had something else ... Let me see ... how about a new definition of the options:

    1: Abysmal -10,000

    2: Appaling -1,000

    3: Hopeless -100

    4: Very bad and completely uninspired -10

    5: Bad and uninspired -1

    6: Disappointing 1

    7: Not much good there 3

    8: So-so 5

    9: Good season finale 7

    10: Outstanding 10


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    interesting how our favorite ENT reviewer doesn't have many nits to pick with season 4. hmmm

    http://www.firsttvdrama.com/enterprise/index.php3
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    It was a pretty good next generation episode. Probably a 7. But, wait, this is Enterprise, not Next Gen.

    I really liked the Riker interacting as Chef scenes, and Jolene's acting in Trip's quarters.

    The Chef as councellor scences would have been even cooler if we had had some indication that Chef had that function on the ship before now. Just a few comments dropped in previous episodes that "I talked to Chef" would have been nice.

    The Data voiceover was gratuitious and stupid, which is what I guess you can say about the whole darn next gen framing part. Gratuitious and Stupid.

    Trip's scaredy cat routine before blowing the crap out of himself. Gratuitious and Stupid.

    Nobody getting promoted, nobody advancing, everything staying exactly the same. Gratuitious and Stupid.

    Ending the episode with Riker turning off the boring speechifyin' (like he did all the other boring talkie parts). Gratuitious and Stupid.

    The epilogue with the voiceovers would have been cooler if they'd have done it in reverse order. Start with Archer, then do Kirk, then end up in the present/future with Picard.

    And if the episode was supposed to be a Finale for the Franchise, instead of the Series, then where the hell were Sisko and Janeway. They were part of this too.

    It cought my attention, and I more disappointed than upset by watching it; I didn't throw things at the screen like I did with the Voyager finale, or even the Space Nazi crap at the end of last season.

    "Well, that royally sucked" means it gets a 4. Say thanks to Jolene, Bermaga. If it hadn't been for her performance, you'd have gotten a 1.

    Alex

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    Oh wow, it got a 4!
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    Talking

    I'm still waiting for Rayaru and Hirogan Alpha to post a rating above 5 (or 8 under the new Calcoran scale). Hehehe.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    Well...that sucked.
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    All right, someone gave it a 7 (basic chart or updated chart? ), and someone gave it a 10 !

    Own up that man, you can't just say it's worth a 10 without telling us what you liked and what made it IYO a good series finale!
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