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    [SCI-FI WIRE] Ellison Blasts Spielberg's War

    Source: http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/i...ory=0&id=31121

    Gee, I can't wait until he rips Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings and King Kong.

    Not that I don't think War of the World Spielberg version is going to be better than the the original. After all, the highlight is casting Dakota Fanning. The lowlight is ... well, casting Tom Cruise.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    Peter jackson didn't call it 'Peter Jacksons Lord of the Rings' he also hasn't technically 'remade' anything, it is the first time the whole trilogy has been committed to celuloid. The animated version is SO badly hacked it's barelly lord of the rings

    The lest we speak of King Kong the better

    He is right though, I am not sure what this adaptation of War of the Worlds is going to do for cinema. Speilberg used to be about originality, now it's err... time he moved on!
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    He's probably miffed because George Lucas didn't let him direct -- not even to unit direct one scene -- of the Star Wars Prequel.

    I wondered why he wanted to do War of the Worlds.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    According to the contract between the film industry and the director's union, films are consider to be "A Speilberg Film", or who ever is the director. That seems to be the state of things that it is the directors' film no matter what. So a leap to titling the film as Director's Name of Film is not much. Considering that it is the director's job to get out of the actors what the writer(s) wanted, this is bogus to me (in either way). Although if they are labeling to distancing it from the original do to changes made then that might be acceptable. For example, Battlestar: Galatica's remake was called Ronald Moore's Battlestar: Galatica that would be alright since it is different yet still similar to the original Battlestar: Galatica.


    Quote Originally Posted by REG
    He's probably miffed because George Lucas didn't let him direct -- not even to unit direct one scene -- of the Star Wars Prequel.
    Did not Spielberg also say he (and others too) wanted to do a film in the Star Wars universe and was turned down by Lucas?

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    I wonder if he was turned down from both because of element of his Minority Report similarity to Star Wars Episode III. They are friends as they worked on several movies together including Indiana Jones movies so he may have given a Spielberg an over view of the prequels. Lucas feels a little mifted at Speilberg for lifting plot elements. But they seem to be still working together on the 4th Indiana Jones film.








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    Quote Originally Posted by REG
    I wondered why he wanted to do War of the Worlds.
    Probably just something to keep busy with and generate some income as he has a larger film company to fund, DeamWorks SWG, on top of Amblin Entertainment production company. Maybe he expected to be working on his Star Wars film or the fourth Indiana Jones film (I think it is on its 4 plot outline or possible scripts.) but since that was scuttled by Lucas he need to find something else. Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spshu
    Probably just something to keep busy with and generate some income as he has a larger film company to fund, DeamWorks SWG, on top of Amblin Entertainment production company. Maybe he expected to be working on his Star Wars film or the fourth Indiana Jones film (I think it is on its 4 plot outline or possible scripts.) but since that was scuttled by Lucas he need to find something else. Who knows?
    So, he couldn't find another WWII story to make into a film? Pearl Harbor was taken? (The first Jerry Bruckheimer film to mangle it ... slightly)
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by REG
    He's probably miffed because George Lucas didn't let him direct -- not even to unit direct one scene -- of the Star Wars Prequel.
    Not true, REG. Spielberg is the acknowledged (but uncredited due to Director's Guild restrictions) director of at least one action scene in Ep. III. Rumor has it its the big lightsaber duel at the end...

    And Lucas wanted Spielberg to direct Return of the Jedi, but because of the mentioned Director's Guild restrictions, couldn't get him.
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    Wait!

    Harlan Ellison doesn't like something?

    NO!

    NO WAY!

    He's most open minded person I have ever heard speak... I find this hard to believe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AslanC
    Wait!

    Harlan Ellison doesn't like something?

    NO!

    NO WAY!

    He's most open minded person I have ever heard speak... I find this hard to believe.

    Yeah, Aslan, I was as shocked as you were.

    Though at least he's entertaining when he's slamming something. I remember all his wonderful rants when I still could get the American Sci-Fi channel. Priceless moments.
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