[CODA] Help need stats!!!!!

[AslanC]

http://www.feymanshipyards.com/CruiserChandra.html

Can anyone whip this ship up as an explorer?

She is about the same length aprox as a Galaxy, with far less height and vloume obviously

Anything would be a big help

[PGoodman13]

It's really not my era; I'm not a big 24th century fan. But it's an interesting looking design, and I have to hand it to this guy's creativity.

I'll see if I can come up with something, but no promises.

[AslanC]

Anything at all that helps would be fantastic

[PGoodman13]

Would you prefer Narrator's Guide stats or Starships stats?

[Sea Tyger]

Starfleet Chandra-Class
Light Explorer; Commissioned 2379

Hull Data
Structure 30
Size/Decks 7/17
Length/Beam/Height 622/321/86 meters
Complement 425

Tactical Data
Phasers Type XI, Type X (x2), Type IX (D)
Penetration 6/5/5/0/0
Photon Torpedoes Mk 95 DF (x2/D)
Penetration std 5/5/5/5/5, quantum 6/6/6/6/6
Deflectors FSS-3 (regenerative) (F)
Protection/Threshold 18/6

Propulsion Data
Impulse System FIE-3 (.85c) (D)
Warp System LF-62 (wf 8/8.5/9) (F)

Operational Data
Atmosphere Capable No
Cargo Units 70
Life Support Class 4 (E)
Masking System Mono-refractive Plating (14)
Operations System Class 4 (E)
Sensor System Class 5a (+5/EE)
Separation System No
Shuttlebay 1 saucer aft, 1 engineering aft
Shuttlecraft 14 size worth
Tractor Beams 1fv, 1 av
Transporters 6 standard, 6 cargo, 6 emergency

Miscellaneous Data
Maneuver Modifiers +4C, -1H, +2T
Traits none

Notes
Description of ship can be found here.

99 of 99 space used. Warp propulsion costs increased by 2, to reflect early deployment of LF-62 warp drive.

[PGoodman13]

Obviously, Davy has more free time than I do....

[Sea Tyger]

Obviously, Davy has more free time than I do....

Not really. My free time just had better timing.

[AslanC]

Wow!

Nice work Sea Tiger

One thing, I meant she is just about the same length as an Ambassador not a Galaxy class, my bad there.

Does that change much?

Wow that was fast stuff

Mr. Goodman, thanks for the offer all the same I suppose, though what is the diff between NG and Starships?

[PGoodman13]

There's a little bit of difference in how size and space are calculated, and Starships offers a wider range of components to choose from.

I don't think there's a lot of difference, off the top of my head, between Galaxy and Ambassador classes in terms of overall length; both are size 8 ships, and Davy's Chandra class is a size 7, probably to take into account the lower volume that compressing the hulls provides.

[AslanC]

Cool, that makes sense.

I may have a buddy do up a 3D model of her

One question about your stats Davy, is that a single torp launcher on her?

Seems a bit lean for such a big ship. This thing needs a bit of teeth in the end... no?

[Sea Tyger]

Thanks.

On the dimensions, I used the Ambassador's saucer diameter as my primary reference, so you can say that I modeled the ship after the Ambassador's size. The other dimensions were extrapolated, based on measurements to the 64th of an inch on my flat panel LCD display. (In other words, it's as accurate as I can get it. ) Basically, she's longer because of the engineering hull placement and length (and the aft sweep of the nacelle struts, to some extent).

If you want, I can scale everything down so that she's about the same length as the Ambassador. That would likely put her deeper into the Size 7 range, but it shouldn't actually change anything.

Speaking on the size issue, her length put her in Size 8, but her beam and height put her in size 7. I generally prefer to go with the majority on that, especially since it was only a difference of 1 in this case (and the length was in the middle of size 8). Besides, the pictures of the ship looked like she "acted" smaller.

On the weapons front, I went with what I could count. I found only one feature that looked like a torpedo launcher (the blue section at the front of the bow). Also, the writeup seemed to indicate that, while she took advantage of post-DW combat technology, she was not built for heavy combat duty. Hence, only 1 torpedo system.

You can conceivably extrapolate that the shroud has two launchers within it (although, to me, it really only looks like it's a single unit), but, you'd have to drop 5 structure and reduce the cargo back to 7.

[AslanC]

Alternately you could make her size 8 and pack defenses and offense into that space no?

Also the nacaelles were my measureing point Hence she came at the same length as a Ambassador class that way... 526m according to Ex Astris Scientia. I think i prefer this length as well.

Now back to those weapons systems

[Tomcat]

One question about your stats Davy, is that a single torp launcher on her?

Seems a bit lean for such a big ship. This thing needs a bit of teeth in the end... no?

I had asked this question on this past thread ( http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread.php?t=11139 ) to Doug and Don in regards to the numeric value of weapons ( i.e. Photon Torpedoes Mk 95 DF (x1/D) ).

I was never given an official response, but as can be read, it seems that the x1 does not necessarily signify a number of launchers but just computes an abstract strength value of all of that particular weapon type.

So this ship may have more torp launchers, it just may not pack as much punch with this type of weapon.

[Sea Tyger]

Alternately you could make her size 8 and pack defenses and offense into that space no?

Also the nacaelles were my measureing point Hence she came at the same length as a Ambassador class that way... 526m according to Ex Astris Scientia. I think i prefer this length as well.

Well, I think that either the listed size of the Ambassador or her listed dimensions are wrong. At 525m long, she's near the middle of Size 7, not Size 8 (and her other stats put her at Size 7).

Now back to those weapons systems

If we keep the ship's current dimensions, I'd feel much more comfortable about stretching her to a Size 8 ship. Doing so would add 5 to structure and increase the total space available by 20.

3 points would be lost in Operations, Life Support and the Mono-refractive Plating. Another 3 would be lost to add in a second FIE-3 Impulse Engine (so that it can push a size 8 ship). 7 would be taken by the second Mk 95 DF torpedo system.

2 would go towards 20 more cargo units, and the remaining 5 could be put into ablative armor (as part of the "lessons learned" from the DW).

So, Structure would be 45 (5 ablative), Impulse Systems would be FIE-3 (x2/D) (.85c), Torpedo Systems would be Mk 95 DF (x2/D) std 5/5/5/5/5 quantum 6/6/6/6/6, and Cargo would be 110 Cargo Units. 119 of 119 space would be used.

Mind you, I really couldn't accept a ship as short as 525m being considered Size 8, by any stretch of the imagination. But, if you want to do that, it would, mechanically, be the same.

Tomcat, if my memory serves me correctly, Don said that he counted launcher for launcher when he wrote up the designs in Starships. And, I happen to like that analogy, so I follow it. I also try very hard to use 720-degrees of phaser coverage as x1 phaser capacity, too.

There's really no wrong answer on that.

[AslanC]

What if we split the difference and go with 575?

Would that make you more comfortable with a size 8 ship?

Perhaps I am wrong, but as presented, the Intrepid out guns her no? If I am wrong, please let me know.