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    Braga says he's through with Trek

    It's a little late, but I'll take it. Read this and see how you feel.
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    One can only hope he means it.
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    "There will be a lot of fans cheering about that," he added wryly.
    Well, at least this one. Yay!

    But there just comes a point where I'm not sure what else I would have to give. I certainly could see the financial value in it, but at this point, creatively, I would not want to be involved in something that I couldn't give to.
    too bad you didn't realize that at the beginning of Enterprise, rather than now.

    Now, if Berman can get another job too...

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    What's in the air lately ?

    Decipher releasing Worlds, Braga done with trek. What's next ?
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    Question

    Somebody please enlighten me. What exactly has Berman done to deserve a place among the first Jupiter landing party? The way I see it (I really know very little, so I might be very wrong) Braga was the "creative" force behind Voyager, so I can understand if some people don't really like him for his contribution to Star Trek. But Berman, what has he done to deserve a place right next to Brage? I would like to know specific decisions and events that had clearly negative consequences.
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    I wonder if he's familiar with the phrase that begins with "Don't let the door hit you..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergi
    Somebody please enlighten me. What exactly has Berman done to deserve a place among the first Jupiter landing party? The way I see it (I really know very little, so I might be very wrong) Braga was the "creative" force behind Voyager, so I can understand if some people don't really like him for his contribution to Star Trek. But Berman, what has he done to deserve a place right next to Brage? I would like to know specific decisions and events that had clearly negative consequences.
    You'll have to ask David Gerrold, Ron D. Moore (after DS9, he was hired briefly on VOYAGER production), and countless others.

    But from my POV, he's nothing but a Paramount's stooge, akin to having a network suit involving ... our should I say interfering ... with the show's creative process. To put it in today's analogy, he's our "FEMA Michael Brown."

    If anything, he has earned most of my disappointment and anger than I have toward Braga.
    Anyhoo, just some random thoughts...

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    I'm having mixed feelings about this, first I'm glad to ridding the old, while at the same time I'm worried "who's left the pick up the pieces?" Sometimes it's better to have the Devil you know.
    Phoenix...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix
    I'm having mixed feelings about this, first I'm glad to ridding the old, while at the same time I'm worried "who's left the pick up the pieces?" Sometimes it's better to have the Devil you know.
    I'm having a hard time picturing something WORSE than making Star Trek into an unprofitable, unwanted, and unenjoyed franchise that's more dead than it's original creator.

    I'm not saying with any guaratee that whatever the next iteration is, it will be good -- but I can't see the Trek franchise being in worse shape than it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFVanguard
    I'm not saying with any guaratee that whatever the next iteration is, it will be good -- but I can't see the Trek franchise being in worse shape than it is now.
    The Trek film and TV franchise may be having issues, but I know the book side of things is doing all right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ineti
    The Trek film and TV franchise may be having issues, but I know the book side of things is doing all right.
    True, but the book numbers don't have to be all that high to justify them - and even then the performance since the 1970's hey-day is way down. Point being that the franchise, as a whole, is in serious trouble - and that's largely /due/ to Berman and Braga's mismanagement of it for the past several years.

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    So crack open the champaign! I bet if trek was to come back, he would leech into the back door.. he is done with Trek because.. there is no more Trek right now ! DUH.. it just took a year to sink in!
    Ta Muchly

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    Yes, but now who will wear the ruby slippers?
    "It's hard being an evil genius when everybody else is so stupid" -- Quantum Crook

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    Quote Originally Posted by First of Two
    Yes, but now who will wear the ruby slippers?
    Leela, obviously.
    ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFVanguard
    True, but the book numbers don't have to be all that high to justify them - and even then the performance since the 1970's hey-day is way down.
    Is it? That'd stink, because the quality compared to then is way up.


    Still, at least some of them are doing well:

    The following books have recently gone back to press:

    "Worlds of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Vol. I", by Una McCormack and Heather Jarman (third printing)
    Voyager: "Spirit Walk #2: Enemy of My Enemy", by Christie Golden (second printing)
    "Tales from the Captain's Table", edited by Keith R.A. DeCandido (third printing)
    "A Time to Sow", by Dayton Ward and Kevin Dilmore (fourth printing)
    "The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh: Volume Two" (paperback reprint), by Greg Cox (second printing)
    "A Time to Kill", by David Mack (second printing)
    "Tales of the Dominion War", edited by Keith R.A. DeCandido (fifth printing)
    Voyager: "Homecoming", by Christie Golden, ( eighth printing.)
    "The Star Trek Cookbook", by Ethan Phillips and William J. Birnes (fifth printing)
    "Engines of Destiny", by Gene DeWeese (third printing)
    "It's hard being an evil genius when everybody else is so stupid" -- Quantum Crook

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