Ships of the Star Fleet book?

[badger2305]

So I have two books:

• Ships of the Star Fleet, Volume One, 2290-91
• Ships of the Star Fleet, Akyazi-class Perimeter Action Ships V. I, n. 2

...these seem to be related to Star Fleet Battles, but they are done in such detail that I'm tempted to use them for a role-playing campaign.

Anybody know anything about them? I'm not concerned if they aren't "canon" (though curious either way).

[Sea Tyger]

They were independent books, published by a group that I can't recall at the moment (I have the first book, and also the Starfleet Prototype, 2291-2). AFAIK, they weren't attached to Starfleet Battles or any other RPG, just another of the "tech manuals" printed up in the 80s and early 90s.

I have a number of the Starfleet Prototype ships converted over to Coda Starships stats. You can find a list of them in the consolidated starships thread at the top of this forum.

[Owen E Oulton]

Not related to any game at all, RPG or otherwise. They're done by Todd Guenther of StarStation Aurora, a publisher of Tech Fandom manuals. As noted, he also did Starfleet Prototype, which was designed to look more like a magazine and patterned after the US Naval Institute's Proceedings. Todd also worked with Rick Sternbach et alia on the official boxed set of blueprints of the Enterprise-D.

[badger2305]

Dear Owen,

Thanks for that. I think I also have Starship Prototype somewhere - I was struck by the resemblance to Proceedings as well.

It seems like the information in both books could be useful to anyone running a Star Trek campaign, since it seems a bit "to the side" from a lot of RPG materials out there. What do you (or others) think?

[badger2305]

I have a number of the Starfleet Prototype ships converted over to Coda Starships stats. You can find a list of them in the consolidated starships thread at the top of this forum.

Cool. I will take a look. Thank you.

[Owen E Oulton]

Slight correction, after looking through my Tech Fandom manuals: Todd Guenther's Proceedings clone was actually called Starship Design.

Starfleet Prototype was a red-covered book similar to the Ships of the Star Fleet books, published by Strategic Design, a fan group out of Montreal. Strategic Design also put out a really nice large-format set of Enterprise-A deckplans, and a neat book called Starfleet Dynamics, an in-depth look at all aspects of Starfleet. This was a revision of an earlier work called Starfleet Officer Requirements, which I only have in photocopy form.

I used to use all of these as background material for my old TOS Movie-era Excalibur campaign. In fact, I found the fact that they did not deal in abstract game mechanics made them much more useful, since it meant that I could just go with the flow.

[badger2305]

Are there other books out there like these, and if so, how would I go about finding them? I haven't paid close attention to Trek fandom for years.

[Owen E Oulton]

Loads of them, of varying quality. I used to see some advertised in the back of Starlog magazine. Most of mine, I got in the dealers' rooms of various Star Trek conventions.

[badger2305]

Got it. Any sources online? I'm interested in tracking some of this stuff down. Or if you have titles to ones you would recommend, abebooks.com or ebay might be worth a look.

[Owen E Oulton]

eBay's probably your best bet. Most of these books were unlicensed fannish productions, so they were not sold in bookstores. Happy Hunting!

[IceGiant]

You can get many of them here:
http://www.neweyestudio.com/stnrtecman1.html
But prices are U.S, and shipping is $20 US for us canadians

[First of Two]

Ooh, I like that site. I wonder if they buy, as well as sell? I'll be moving soon, and I really should get rid of my duplicates and some other stuff.

[Shoshuro]

Just a side note, if your look for ship designs you may also want to try Jackill's website as well. He had 4 books out (really hard to find and can run you $30+ on Ebay) and sells blueprint sets off his website.

[First of Two]

Just a side note, if your look for ship designs you may also want to try Jackill's website as well. He had 4 books out (really hard to find and can run you $30+ on Ebay) and sells blueprint sets off his website.

I really like Jackill's books (even if he picks ship names rather uncreatively - most of them seem to be just buttloads of anonymous last names). I have all four of his books -- wish he'd come out with more books, maybe collections of the stuff he's putting out now. I'd buy them in a shot.

[First of Two]

I'm resurrecting this thread because I stumbled upon this, and wanted to share it, in case anybody who liked the SotSF books didn't know about it:


The folks over at Advanced Starship Design Bureau have created several PDF "sequels" to the "Ships of the Star Fleet" books (but set in 2377-2378), as well as a new "Starfleet Prototype" and Two issues of something called "Dockyard Review."

I think they're pretty cool.