Enterpise...I'm looking forward to it

[Calcoran]

Antonio, AFAICT, it's:
"Neptune and back in 6 minutes? Wow!"
... been listening to that specific part about 10 or 12 times now .
Does that mach better?

[Captain Blake]

Ok, math time (I may not have the MapMobile, but...):

Neptune is 4.498 x 10^12 meters from the sun.

Earth is 1.498 x 10^11 meters from the sun.

I'm not going to try to determine actual relative solar positions, so we'll have to make an assumption, or two.

Assuming that the two planets are completely opposite sides of the sun, the relative distance between the two is 4.648 x 10^12 m. It's actually longer, because that would require Enterprise to travel straight through the sun, but then again, Neptune won't be exactly opposite either.

Doubling this ("Neptune and back") is 9.296 x 10^12 m.

Dividing this by 360 seconds (6 minutes) gives us a velocity of 2.58 x 10^10 m/s.

C=2.998 x 10^8 m/s.

In this case, Enterprise is traveling 2.58 x 10^10/2.998 x 10^8 = 86 times the speed of light. Which is pretty close to TOS speed of Warp 4.5 (91 c) especially if we take into account the facts that the ship would have to go around the sun, the distance will be a little off, and that the captain was estimating the time to a nice round number.

Someone actually did the math, for a change. It gives me hope.

Hopefully, the "Qo'nos in 4 days" line is just as much a throwaway as the "leaving the galaxy line."

Alex

[Evan van Eyk]

Well theis Neptune quote would match the old Warp Scale of Warp 5, so I think its OK.
And I remember Quo'nos quite near to Earth from the Civil War episodes of TNG.

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[Captain Blake]

Oh, can't forget time to accellerate and decellerate the ship. At pre TOS speeds, I imagine that that's pretty considerable.

Warp 5 it is then.

125c at full tilt.

Let's see. 4 days to Qo'nos. light travels 1 light year in 1 year, that's 2.7 x 10^-3 ly/day. Multiplying that number by 4 days, and 125 times the speed of light, that gives us 1.37 ly.

Qo'nos is closer to Earth than our closest Stellar Neighbor. Sigh.

4 weeks would make it 9.59 ly.

Still, I've been re-watching old episodes of TOS and TNG.

Watch them sometime with the same eye for Canon and details that you did with Voyager.

I hate to say this guys, but there were a lot of lame ass episodes of both Classic and NextGen. Bad or no science. Not sticking to details. Forgetting from one episode to the next what had happened. Just like Voyager. It's part of Episodic TV.

The one thing that TNG and TOS had over Voyager, IMO, is characters. There weren't any characters on Voyager I cared about. So, I didn't care if they ever got home, and I never watched the show.

Enterprise seems to be going out of it's way to make interesting characters.

If they remotely pay attention to what could happen, then the show could be very very good.

Alex

[KlingonZ]

I have heard some say that they saw the Klingon ship on the last preview of Enterprise. I have downloaded this preview and can't see it. Let me know if it's there or where it was seen please.

[Protius]

They're referring to the ship (or room) the Klingon is seen in, with all the non-klingon control panels around him.

[Antonio Cabañas]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Calcoran:

Antonio, AFAICT, it's:
"Neptune and back in 6 minutes? Wow!"
... been listening to that specific part about 10 or 12 times now .
Does that mach better?</font>

Ooops.

My parents are right, I'm a bit deaf.

Sorry

And seriously, 6 minutes fit better than six hours.

[SIR SIG]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Protius:
They're referring to the ship (or room) the Klingon is seen in, with all the non-klingon control panels around him.</font>

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[SIR SIG]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Protius:
They're referring to the ship (or room) the Klingon is seen in, with all the non-klingon control panels around him.</font>

The Klingon is actually restrained my wrist manacles.

So it might be a Sublian room or ship.

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[Liquidator Queeg]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dan Stack:
Which leads me to the conclusion that Star Trek is our true religion.
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Amen, Brother Stack! Tell it from the Mountain!

Steve

[Doug Burke]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Korga:
this goes to show whom real trekies are...and people whom are non-continuity statrek trekies!</font>

You know, I once heard almost the exact same words Korga, here, used. But it was fourteen years ago when they announced the premier of a new series called "Star Trek: The Next Generation". Personally, I find all the hyperbole funny, myself.

I have come to the reasoned conclusion that I will wait and see. I mean, TNG worked out. DS9 worked out. Voyager... Well, I guess two out of three ain't bad...

Mind you, this all comes from the guy who, back in high school, had the same attitude when everyone he knew said a comedic actor like Michael Keaton could never be taken seriously as Batman. And we all know how that worked out...

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[Treefrog]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dan Stack:

In all honesty I respect the views of those who aren't looking forward to the show or are pessimistic.

Real trekkies? Egad, we have gatekeepers! While my credentials as a Trekkie don't go back as far as 66 (being born in 71), I think being a Trek-geek since the mid-70s, when my mom would plop me in front of the tv to "watch the show with the guy with the funny ears" while she made dinner does qualify me.

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I myself remember seeing TOS early in the '70s, and I have to say that I am apalled at what B & B have decided to come out with.

Let me make this perfectly clear: I AM APALLED at what Star Trek has come to!!!!!!!!!!

I have decided that this series is the start of the end of Star Trek.

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[Phantom]

You are a little off on your facts Treefrog, the last episode of Voyager was the beginnig of the end for Trek. ST:Ent. is the Death Rattle.

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[Cpt. Zymmer]

Far be it from me to begrudge anyone their opinion, but with all due respect there are plenty of Enterprise bashing threads already in action, can wee try and keep this one to positive outlooks instead?

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[Sheliak Bob]

Truth be told, I AM looking forward to ENTERPRISE. I have doubts and qualms and such, but I'll give the show a chance. I am fairly excited about the look and tech of the show, and honestly I rather LIKE the idea of an early period show. We might actually get to see the Andorians (!) The Tellarites (!) and other Trek staples that have been invisible for a decade or two.
I am ready to embrace the Vulcan Babe Factor with shameless glee!
I like Bakula as a Trek Captain (which I rather doubt will last for long. I foresee an UGLY contract battle in the not too distant future, IF the show is a success!).
The Time Travel factor makes me cringe, but the "Killer B's" didn't consult me before deciding on that, so what's a 'Bob supposed to do?
And finally, the Anti-Enterprise Faction is shaping up to be SOOOOO fanatical that I foresee years of cheerful cage-rattling! I am already planning to get an "Enterprise-style" uniform and saunter around at cons saying things like, "Y'know, ENTERPRISE is the only 'Real' Trek we've seen since TOS!", then ducking out of the room just before the bloodletting begins! Egad! What fun!
So fuss away Lads! Yer the most fun I've had in AGES!
I's bad. I knows it. hee hee hee.