Can I do Two overlays?

[Don Mappin]

Originally posted by Kevin:
I don't want him going to OCS i want him to go to SFA.

They are the same. Paramount was very specific when we were writing the "Starfleet Academy Boxed Set" -- there is no "boot camp" or anything else like it. There is but one school, Starfleet Academy, and all Starfleet "officers" (including enlisted) go to it.

Our reasoning was that enlisted didn't have as strict entry requirements (pretty much anyone could get in), and not as rigorous training.

As pointed out earlier, the rules for what you are asking already exist in the "Players' Guide." Make an enlisted character, flush out your tours and background, then use the OCS package from the "Players' Guide." Add additional tours for flavoring, let sit for five minutes and presto! -- character done.

Don
SFA Author


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[Perrryyy]

Suppose the following:

A Klingon warrior serves the empire until he is brutally wounded, to the point where he cannot engage in combat (missing leg, arm, or reduced mobility. I'm making the assumption that Klingon medical standards aren't up to Federation standards.)

So, after a long career as a warrior, he's now disabled. Suppose he passes on the Hegh'bat ritual, and instead chooses to become a military advisor.

Question: Would this constitute changing overlays, or just moving to a different, more sedentary tier of the tour of duty packages?

[qerlin]

If you're running the character post OCS, I'd just use the officer overlay and give him a previous experiece package out of the Player's Guide .

[Perrryyy]

Originally posted by qerlin
If you're running the character post OCS, I'd just use the officer overlay and give him a previous experiece package out of the Player's Guide .

Thanks. That makes sense!

[Sarge]

Dave Biggins took the words right out of my mouth. Miles doesn't want to be an officer. Officers have to attend formal Starfleet receptions with admirals; NCOs don't. He seemed pretty happy about that at the beginning of the Bell Riots two-part episode.

As for the Klingon becoming a military advisor, I'd give him a training package to cover anything like strategy, logistics, and instruction techniques that he hadn't picked up during his time as a grunt. From then on, his tours of duty will definitely be more sedentary.

[AslanC]

But we must never forget that O'Brien was a full Lieutenant when he was on the Enterprise. I always thought that was one of the bigger continuity slips they pulled that no one caught.

Recently in my game our Chief Engineer went to OCS, as the ship he was transferred to was too large to allow an NCO to be the Chief.

OCS is great...

But I disagree with Paramount about NCO training. But that's just me.

[Phantom]

I always thought that O'Brian was always an NCO, even back on the Enterprise. It was just no-one in custume wanted to take the time to create NCO rank insignia. Which they did for DS9.

[AslanC]

Originally posted by Phantom
I always thought that O'Brian was always an NCO, even back on the Enterprise. It was just no-one in custume wanted to take the time to create NCO rank insignia. Which they did for DS9.

No in every scene he is in you can clearly see those two shining pips on his collar

See at that point Rodenberry's rule of now NCOs was being adhered to. In his mind everyone in Starlffet was an Officer...from the lowest decks to the centre seat. ensigns did the jobs of NCOs and tried to get noticed and get ahead.

I think DS9 is where we first see NCOs, in the form of Chief O'Brien, but I could be wrong. On the Ent-D he was called Chief, because he was the transporter chief.

[ghosty]

Originally posted by AslanC


No in every scene he is in you can clearly see those two shining pips on his collar

See at that point Rodenberry's rule of now NCOs was being adhered to. In his mind everyone in Starlffet was an Officer...from the lowest decks to the centre seat. ensigns did the jobs of NCOs and tried to get noticed and get ahead.

I think DS9 is where we first see NCOs, in the form of Chief O'Brien, but I could be wrong. On the Ent-D he was called Chief, because he was the transporter chief.

Then there was "Families" when Worf's adopted father referred to O'Brien as a fellow "Chief Petty Officer". At that point the whole assumption of O'Brien's rank and position got tossed out the window.

[Phantom]

Actually they have had enlisted in ST for sometime, all those guys running around in jumpsuits in TOS were enlisted (specialists.)

I just think it was a custume thing, as stated above when ever someone addressed O'Brian it was always "Chief..." That is enlisted, no matter what the rather silly uniform rules for Trek state.

[ghosty]

Wasn't Janice Rand an enlisted woman. She went to OCS on Kirk's recomendation and the last we saw her, she was a Commander and Sulu's communications officer on the Excelsior.