Star Trek Reboot prospectus by JMS

[BouncyCaitian]

http://bztv.typepad.com/newsviews/fi...2004Reboot.pdf

[Tobian]

Hmm.... Hmmmmmmm..... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

Just not sure about this. It could be good, but something about it worries me.. Orginal trek was full of cheese - JMS made some bad cheese with B5 - mesh the two together..... !!!! - There's only so much cheese I think I can take

[REG]

It's decent, actually.

Just a couple of suggestions for your Trek series:

1. Change the characters.
2. Change the starship.

Other than that, it's a good pitch.

[Tobian]

or even 3) don't call it Star Trek

Is it me as well, or is this just Kirk Mccoy and Spock - do Babylon 5's plot, on a ship?

[REG]

or even 3) don't call it Star Trek

Is it me as well, or is this just Kirk Mccoy and Spock - do Babylon 5's plot, on a ship?

Well, I don't know Zabel's excuse, but I think JMS is pissed he let B5 go to Warner Brothers.

[IceGiant]

His proposal has a ton of potential. But like the fact Paramount will never do a DS9 movie (which boggles my mind) I doubt they will do this either.

[BouncyCaitian]

actually, I was thingking it would feel a bit more like Larry nivens Known Space series from the prospectus

[Hirogen Alpha]

I think having Star Trek films or Star Trek TV miniseries would and should allow Star Trek to continue without a re-boot. However, if a new television series was launched, I think there is no choice but to re-boot the series, unless a truly innovative concept comes out of Star Trek IX. This is as good enough a concept as any, although I worry about JMS' need for total creative control. Star Trek has always been best, IMO, when there are lots of creative talent contributing.

[First of Two]

Hmm. "Ultimate Star Trek."

While I agree with the hesitance about ceding total creative control, in favor of a number of creative forces, I also think there's logic in having one strong voice to do battle with the "soulless minions of orthodoxy" (AKA Network Executives.)

Also, I've grown bored with conspiratorial plotlines. I see enough paranoid thinking on the political message boards I subscribe to, thanks.

[IceGiant]

And I'm of the opinion that having so many writers is what caused some of the problems. When anyone off the street can send in a script you don't get the cohesion you'd get from a core select few who are working the show day in and day out. I think DS9 did a much better job of flow and story arcs then did NG which really was writer of the week.

[black campbellq]

or even 3) don't call it Star Trek

Is it me as well, or is this just Kirk Mccoy and Spock - do Babylon 5's plot, on a ship?

It is just you...

This is what I've been suggesting since Blow-a-ger. Do the friggin' old series, but bring the tech up to date, give us a new cast that can act, and give us some real stories -- not the "head of the week" crap of Voyager and Enterprise.

I'd have watched it.

[Hirogen Alpha]

Well, I've read further than I did before, and I'm not nearly as excited now. The beginning of the pitch seems interesting enough-- Kirk, Spock, McCoy, the rest of the classic crew, a mix of Star Trek tech and speculative tech, the five year mission, seeing it begin-- those things interest me.

What doesn't interest me is the change in the prime directive, and the entire arc of the show which seems not only quite derivative of JMS' own work, but also TNG's the Chase.

It seems to me that JMS is trying to mix the optimistic exploring world of Classic Trek with a dark, gritty, and violent universe like his own B5. Which seems to be a collosal mistake to me.

And it doesn't help that the Brady Bunch argument is about the most stupid thing I've ever read. I think I'm glad that TPTB passed on this. I hope Abrams has a better stab at the material. Which brings up a point someone made on the TrekBBS. Is JMS just having this released now, so that (if) when Abrams' film comes out, he can cry that he had the idea first? I hope not. I for one have grown tired of his constant and unsubstantiated whining about DS9 & B5.

[REG]

His proposal has a ton of potential. But like the fact Paramount will never do a DS9 movie (which boggles my mind) I doubt they will do this either.

Not exactly a good comparison. At least DS9 featured a totally original concept (life on a space station). For me personally, I don't like messing the original. It's the reason I got into Star Trek in the first place, with Shatner as Kirk, Nimoy as Spock, and Kelley as McCoy.

If JMS is hell-bent on doing a Trek series in that time period, then I suggest they pick another Connie and her crew. Sorry, not interested in re-booting the Trek universe. I'm only interested in reforming the franchise leadership and creative pool.

[C5]

The idea of a "Ultimate" Star Trek might be a good way to clean the Trek continuity once and for all and finally settle all those fanish arguments about the contradiction between the various series and episodes, not to mention the legends created by fans or books. This would allow the writer to start with a fresh universe without having to take into account 5 series and 10 movies and having to mull over things like the date of the Eugenic Wars, the Earth-Romulan war or the looks of the Klingons.

On the other tentacle, I'm not sure I quite like this particular idea... which is basically to send the Enterprise on a sort of holy quest of an artifact left behind by another more advanced species. The idea is nice, but I'm not sure it's quite new nor fit for the Trek universe.

The advantage of having a Trek series directed by a ST fan is that we can be sure the characters and universe will be treated as they should be without blatant errors.
The drawback is that said fan might be tempted to write Trek as he sees it, and as had been said on numerous occasions, there are almost as many visions of Trek as there are fans... some of them being downright opposite.

[Doug Burke]

The advantage of having a Trek series directed by a ST fan is that we can be sure the characters and universe will be treated as they should be without blatant errors.
The drawback is that said fan might be tempted to write Trek as he sees it, and as had been said on numerous occasions, there are almost as many visions of Trek as there are fans... some of them being downright opposite.

To this point, I have one thing to say. Nemesis was written by a Trek fan...