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Two cool things on Youtbube:
Many have debated this topic, but here we see what actually happened:
Star Trek vs. Star Wars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4
And this one is just brilliant:
Star Wars Cops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWr6ec2zEyE
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Heh.
I'd say that the YouTube resolution is debatable, but it's generally my policy that whenever two people I know start debating Star Trek vs. Star Wars, I just beat them until their bodies stop twitching.
It's simpler.
I mean, really, comparing two imaginary, ill-defined, and so far physically impossible weapons technologies doesn't seem likely to lead one to any rational conclusions. Which is more powerful, a plasma-dynamic hyper-warping omega frammistat, or megariffic phlogiston-based hyperkillinators?
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Originally Posted by First of Two
Heh.
I'd say that the YouTube resolution is debatable, but it's generally my policy that whenever two people I know start debating Star Trek vs. Star Wars, I just beat them until their bodies stop twitching.
It's simpler.
I mean, really, comparing two imaginary, ill-defined, and so far physically impossible weapons technologies doesn't seem likely to lead one to any rational conclusions. Which is more powerful, a plasma-dynamic hyper-warping omega frammistat, or megariffic phlogiston-based hyperkillinators?
It doesn't help that participants tend to be biased and selective about what data the use for comparisons.
The only real reason I can see for comparing the two would be for working up a cossover story or adventure.
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Didn't someone post this one quite recently? But my search-fu seems to be lacking, so I can't find it.
[/QUOTE]That one is a classicStar Wars Cops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWr6ec2zEyE
Heh.
I'd say that the YouTube resolution is debatable, but it's generally my policy that whenever two people I know start debating Star Trek vs. Star Wars, I just beat them until their bodies stop twitching.
It's simpler.
I mean, really, comparing two imaginary, ill-defined, and so far physically impossible weapons technologies doesn't seem likely to lead one to any rational conclusions. Which is more powerful, a plasma-dynamic hyper-warping omega frammistat, or megariffic phlogiston-based hyperkillinators?Not much better when when people are arguing about current real world technologies.
It doesn't help that participants tend to be biased and selective about what data the use for comparisons.
The only real reason I can see for comparing the two would be for working up a cossover story or adventure.
But if doing a crossover, I would most likely just let the technology even itself out and have fun with the politics. After all, UFP do not have a habit of tossing itself into armed rebellions in neighbouring empires. So considering that Palpatine got into power legaly, would UFP (unless directly attacked) threat the Empire any different than the Klingon, the Romulan, or the Cardassian empires?
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Not much better when when people are arguing about current real world technologies.
But if doing a crossover, I would most likely just let the technology even itself out and have fun with the politics. After all, UFP do not have a habit of tossing itself into armed rebellions in neighbouring empires. So considering that Palpatine got into power legaly, would UFP (unless directly attacked) threat the Empire any different than the Klingon, the Romulan, or the Cardassian empires?
Well first there would be the time differnce. SW is set in the distant past (a long time ago), wheere Trek is set in the3 future.
But otherwise, I see you point. Basically, I7d expect the UFP to be their typical anti conforntaltional selves and try to negotiate. The Epire, would, natually see it as a sign of wekness and attack.
I had one planned for a SW campaign that I was going to throw a Brel-BoP in for the rebels to find. Basicvally I was going to run something like Blake's 7, with the PCs having an alien ship with unsuaal technology (photorpss, disruptors that are small, yet hit like turbolasers, warp drive, transporters). About the only real problem would be that the rebles would nned to get a hyperdrive on the ship to get it moving a SW speeds.
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That would be the least problem for me. "A long time ago in a galaxy far away." is just from the "narrators" perspective. So that narrator can be even further into the future, in another galaxy than us.
Palpatine is a politician, so I don't think he would underestimate someone just because diplomacy is the first choice of tactics. Then I am quite sure a Sith lord can find quite a few weakness to exploit in the UFP.But otherwise, I see you point. Basically, I7d expect the UFP to be their typical anti conforntaltional selves and try to negotiate. The Epire, would, natually see it as a sign of wekness and attack.
On the other hand, the Moff/Grand Moff in charge might underestimate the situation and exceed his authorities. Would be interesting to hear when the emperor finds out that he needs to divert a lot of ships, needed elsewhere, because some bozo drew in a 150 member strong star federation into the current conflict
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Especially not since his ascend to power was by political and diplomatical maneuvering. I am pretty sure he would see the strength in that.
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He would also fear the social utopia the Federation's created; not even the Old Republic at the height of its power was able to provide that.
He can shoot lightning from his fingertips.
They have Risa.
Do the math.
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He he... I actually love these debates (as long as they don't become personal) : it's just the kind of futile brain-twisters, that can acquire a live of its own, and never reach a conclusion.
Kinda like trying to find an explanation to warp, or to how can Data be unable to use contractions despite his incredible vast knowledge. Or almost any sci-fi subject.
I say Star Trek wins, of course. Star Wars only has one (optionally) hot babe per trilogy, while Star Trek has at least two of them per series
And Luke would probably discover that Kirk is his father, after all
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I say merge the two universes completely and add a dash of Babylon 5, and then we can have Captain Ham T. Solo of the starship Millennium Enterprise squaring off against the evil Vorlon stormtroopers (there will later be a huge schism amongst fans over Original Series smooth-headed encounter suits and Movie Era/Next Generation bumpy-headed encounter suits) in between exploring the far reaches of the Galactic Empire. He will be aided in this by his faithful Vulkiee companion Chewspocka and Dr. Lando "Bones" McCal. They will also encounter a race of hyper-intelligent, pan-dimensional beings called the L, which take the form of a youthful brother and sister who seem to be overly sensitive to the use of force.
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Yup. That just about sums it up.
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