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Cuba Libre! Remember the Maine! You can fire when ready Ridly, Just Bully, Bully!<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cochrane:
Cuba, on the other hand, (heh heh) Yeah, we should conquer them and make them the 51st state.
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Lets get Rupert Murdock on it PDQ, nothing like a war for one hour news specials and selling newspapers!
I knew I loved your adventures for a reason, that is a paraphrase of my favorite quote ever...<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dave Biggins:
Although the US and Canada share a great deal culturally, integrating our economies would be a nightmare. Americans would balk at the amount of government while the Canadians would balk at the lack there of. The next thing you know there would be knife fights in the teacher's lounge over whether a word is spelled with an "s" or a "z". Cats sleeping with dogs...oy, it would be a mess.</font>
"Dogs and Cats...Living together! We're talking mass hysteria!"
What a great movie
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Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition #76: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
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United States Constitution of 1789 Article IV, Section 3 Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
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I think the proper interpretation of this passage of the Constitution is that the parts berofe the NOR have no relation to the parts after. The post NOR part prevents the formation of a state by two states uniting to form a state, or parts of two or more states joining to do likewise; without the consent of the states. The pre-NOR part prevents the division of a state period.
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That's right! With their flapping heads and beady eyes...doggonne 'em!
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Yeah, our education system is horrible. Particularly here in California. I spent part of my childhood in Texas and New Mexico, and I was surprised to learn that California did not teach Spanish in its elementary schools. Sacramento, at least. I thought the Spanish Language would be as important here as in TX and NM. Also, my peers here thought it was strange when I told them about switching to another teacher for subjects such as English and math. I didn't understand why California placed people with different abilities in the same class. Maybe Canada can give us their education system.
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To counter this statement I would speculate that with the benifit of actual indepth help from the Federal Government in establishing a State Gov, that system would be indouwd with the political culture of the United States. This would eliminate the insurrections, and the corruption. Furthermore, the economy would be like Hawaii, but with 7000 plus islands. Therefore there would be very little economic turmoil. As far as the 'minorities' in Southern Philippines I think with the civil rights movements in the 1960's and the increase in racial and religios tolerance, I think they would become a strong political force in the new State.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by qerlin:
Can you just image the trouble the US would be having now if the Phillipines were a state? Betwen the Morro and Al Saif insurrectionists, massive corruption, etc...? What a hastle that would be.</font>
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Has anyone besides myself ever watched Canadian Bacon. It had just about all of the Canadian actors and comedians working in the American entertainment field. It was about a presidency that falsifyed a war between Canada and America in order to win popularity votes.
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Instead of considering the national glory to be won by annexing part or all of Canada, true, red-blooded Americans with any sense should consider the benefits of BEING ANNEXED BY Canada.
Consider, we gain a lot of educated people, a sensible government, a more comprehensive bill of rights, and national health care. Sure, we have to give up our guns, but such a small price to pay!
Of course, you poor Canajuns will go insane trying to train us Amurricuns to self-government. Our current President is living proof that, after 225 years, we are not ready yet.......
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"Ottawa's the capital of Canada...like we're that stupid!" I loved that flick.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Rottwang:
Has anyone besides myself ever watched Canadian Bacon. It had just about all of the Canadian actors and comedians working in the American entertainment field. It was about a presidency that falsifyed a war between Canada and America in order to win popularity votes.
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Back in the dark days before Ireland's economic miracle, when we gratefully took all the handouts that the EU would give us, it was suggested that we declare war on the US (okay, in the pub perhaps rather than in the hallowed halls of government) - you guys would come in and blow the crap out of our "infrastructure" (hah!) then institute a Marshall Plan and spend five years and billions of dollars rebuilding us.
On a more semi-serious note, of all the states in Europe Ireland probably makes the most sense as a candidate for Statehood:
- We speak English, sort of
- Our economic model is more US than European in nature (which is why we got slammed by the European Central Bank recently for doing well despite not doing it the German way)
- Much of our industry takes the form of US Multinationals anyway (Intel, Dell, Microsoft - the phonebook here's beginning to look like the Nasdaq listing)
- Something like 15-20 million of you guys claim to be Irish American, so why can't we?
- We do a lot of business with you compared to a lot of other European countries - 10-15% of exports IIRC
- We're geographically closest
C'mon, you know it makes sense...
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Well, first of all you there is procedure.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cdr Scot II:
On a more semi-serious note, of all the states in Europe Ireland probably makes the most sense as a candidate for Statehood:
C'mon, you know it makes sense...
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Ireland would have to ratify with in it's own hallowed halls of government that they want to become the State. Once this is done, the US must accept her request. After this, there are several other loops and barrels that a Nation/territory must go through. This includes getting approval of 3/4 of all States approval. . . .
Can you help me out guys, it's been three years since I've studied High School Civics.
Once this is done, let me first welcome you as the 51st State of this Blessed Union.
Now I gotta wonder though, would Washington then take up the claim as Ulster as being part of Irish Territory? Or would GB be next to jump on into our lovely (yet messy at times) little household?
Can you imagine that, our 'Mother' Country becoming one with the US . . . but then wouldn't the Commonwealth then be dissolved? Or would it just be the Commonwealth of the United States?
LOL, no that's just impossible! But hey, thanks for giving me a momments pleasure.
You see, I believe a IGOs will become their own nations in time, see the EC which has become the EU. Or how about NAFTA?
Slowly and slowly these IGO's (inter-government organizations (yes I did learn something in GOVT 35)) are becoming far more influencial than their member countries. Note the European Court which now has the power to overrule any court with in the EU. In time these bodies may take over duties that Nations would have done previously. Once this is done, it's just a matter of time. But where will the blocks fall? That my friends is the true question that lies before us.
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There are plenty of inconsistancies with the US civil war:
The Federal government's position was that the rebel states never left the Union... but they did everything else as if they were another country.
They declared a blocade of souther ports, something you do to an enemy nation. If they really considered the south part of the Union, they would simply have declared the southern ports closed, and sent warships to enforce it... the effect would have been the same as a blocade.
There were also certain requirements each rebel state had to meet before it could return to the Union... the union which had claimed all along they had never left.
Confederate soldiers were treated as prisoners of war, rather than as criminals (for the most part).
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by qerlin:
That's right! With their flapping heads and beady eyes...doggonne 'em!
BLAME CANADA!!! BLAME CANADA!!
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It's a standing joke in Political Science circles that the best thing that can happen to a country is to lose a war to the US.<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cdr Scot II:
Back in the dark days before Ireland's economic miracle, when we gratefully took all the handouts that the EU would give us, it was suggested that we declare war on the US (okay, in the pub perhaps rather than in the hallowed halls of government) - you guys would come in and blow the crap out of our "infrastructure" (hah!) then institute a Marshall Plan and spend five years and billions of dollars rebuilding us
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US citizens are not allowed to accept patents of nobility... but AFAIK there is nothing said about already having one when you become a citizen... what would happen to all those blue bloods? Egads, what would happen to the Queen? Would she go to merely being the richest woman in the world?<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JALU3:
Now I gotta wonder though, would Washington then take up the claim as Ulster as being part of Irish Territory? Or would GB be next to jump on into our lovely (yet messy at times) little household?
Can you imagine that, our 'Mother' Country becoming one with the US . . . but then wouldn't the Commonwealth then be dissolved? Or would it just be the Commonwealth of the United States?
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