Star Trek Online Ships - Including the Vesta and Odessey Class, and more.

[morloth]

Hi just back from a looong hiatus under the name sentai1074. Now I view this alot and am wondering if anyone took the time to convert STO stuff into Spacedock.

There seems to be a bunch of cool items and I for one want it ALL. So, periodically I am interested in some kind of collaboration with anyone interested in this.

On another note, I am trying to find a Spacedock version of the Luna, Odyssey, and Vesta classes. I believe there was an Odyssey but finding the Titan and the Aventine is proving to be a problem.

Also, is it possible for Omega1967 to collect their awesome stuff and post it in a PDF? There used to be some but I could not find the Borg one. And so much cool stuff was posted that it could use a good collation. Some stuff - like the collected volumes were not completed with stopped sentences and so much lost information.

Thanks and I hope to be able to contribute a bit from now on.

[Owen E Oulton]

Unfortunately, the STO stats are so abstract and nonspecific as to be useless in creating anything for a standard P'n'P RPG. Some of the ship designs look nice, but since all of the game mechanics are invisible to the players, they're just pretty pictures with no gaming substance. Basically, you have to make them up from scratch..

[Owen E Oulton]

Also, is it possible for Omega1967 to collect their awesome stuff and post it in a PDF? There used to be some but I could not find the Borg one. And so much cool stuff was posted that it could use a good collation. Some stuff - like the collected volumes were not completed with stopped sentences and so much lost information.

Thanks and I hope to be able to contribute a bit from now on.

If someone is willing to do a compilation, I'm willing to prettify it and make a PDF of it - I have OpenOffice, so I can take .Doc documents, but I'd ask that all illustrations also be supplied as separate image files, as I don't work in Word natively and images are next to impossible to extract from .Docs.

[WaveMan]

while not STO this write up is what a Luna Class would look like in Space Dock when you stick to other write up stats

http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...ratory-cruiser

I haven't done any for the Odyssey (I really like that ship) and Vetta.

[WaveMan]

are these what you were after

http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...al-Borg-Planet

http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...TNG-adventures

[morloth]

Actually Omega made a borg spacedock pdf but I cannot find it.

Many things in the STO game are abstract, but Spacedock can give it a more usable dimension.

[Omega1967]

I think this is what you are looking for. It is the original version I have not added the Borg planet or older Borg cube to it. If you make a search most of the useable stuff is somewhere on this forum some place. I always posted much of what I did on here that others could use but there were some ships and things that were only story specific. I did a couple post such as this some Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica and Andromeda. When I get time I plan to put them all in one mega PDF with all my tech notes so they are accessible by any one. We are talking well over a thousand ships and hundreds of tech notes. That is future business.

http://forum.trek-rpg.net/showthread...highlight=Borg

http://forum.trek-rpg.net/attachment...4&d=1221876912

I know that I haven’t been around much lately as I am still settling my late mother’s affairs and getting everything straightened out. I am pretty busy with all of that and getting everything back to some sort of normal life. I don’t have all the resources right at hand as I did once.

I will post when I can.

[Owen E Oulton]

Cool-oh! Will look it over tomorrow. Bookmarked for now. Sorry to hear about your Mom.

[Omega1967]

Thank you. I have gotten more condolences from people like you than I received from family. I appreciate it.

[Chris Donovan]

First, condolences on your loss.

Second, here's a link to the Vesta class' canon specs (straight from the designer). You could use it as a guide to "model" one in any system you wanted:

http://www.ewe-squad.com/vesta%20cla...s82602rev2.pdf

[Winchester]

How nice that one of the first posts I found when I checked this forum out is this one, and that it's not too old to reply to!

I was myself curious about how these ships would look written up as Spacedock ships, using the "what's on the model?" approach, so I opened up the Foundry, STO's mission editor, and started taking notes. The nice part about the Foundry is that you can pick any skin for any part, and you can do it for free - no need to pay for the ships so you can load them into the Ship Customizer.

I know someone extracted a lot of model data a few years back in order to make size comparison charts, but the Odyssey variants are too new so I don't have any exact numbers. They should all be within the same general size range though - Omega1967's writeup from a year or so back said Size 11, so the others should be more or less the same.

USS Odyssey NX-97000 (original version)
4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2)
6 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (ventral belly x 2, ventral stern x 2, dorsal neck x 2*)
6 x Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal stern x 2, dorsal nacelles x 2, ventral pylons x 2)
4 x Torpedo tubes (2 neck forward, 2 stern aft)

(This is the ship as originally introduced in the game. Came in two general exterior appearances, one has a shuttle bay in the stern, the other a docking well for an Aquarius-class escort. Since this version is no longer in the game I haven't been able to count escape pod properly. Pylons have backup impulse engines in the trailing edge.)

USS Odyssey NCC-97000 (refit version)
4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2)
6 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (ventral belly x 2, ventral stern x 2, dorsal neck x 2*)
8 x Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, dorsal stern x 2, dorsal nacelles x 2, ventral pylons x 2)
2 x Very Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal neck x 2)
4 x Torpedo tubes (2 neck forward, 2 stern aft)

(When the T6 ships below were introduced in the game, the model was updated so that the features could be mixed and matched with the newer ones. In the process, they added four extra phaser strips to the back of the ship, at the front of the saucer and above the main impulse engines. Compare with the similar refit that the Enterprise-E received for Nemesis. Very large crew, I counted 254 visible (triangular) escape pods plus another 42 on the saucer/hull mating surfaces.)

USS Yorktown NCC-98300
4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2)
7 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (ventral saucer x 2, ventral belly x 2, ventral stern x 2, dorsal neck x 2*)
4 x Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal nacelles x 2, ventral pylons x 2)
4 x Very Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal neck x 2, dorsal stern x 2)
6 x Torpedo tubes (neck forward x 4, stern aft x 2)

(Science-focused version, very similar in shape to the Odyssey but with different surface detail, beefier main impulse engines, and forward-swept pylons with no impulse engines. Slightly smaller crew than Odyssey - 228 visible (square) escape pods. The Yorktown mesh has a docking well for an Aquarius-class escort in the stern, and a shuttle hangar in the saucer.)

USS Sojourner NCC 98400
4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2)
1 x Long Phaser Array Strip (dorsal saucer x 1)
7 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (ventral saucer x 2, ventral belly x 1, ventral stern x 2, dorsal neck x 2*)
2 x Short Phaser Array Strips (ventral pylons x 2)
6 x Very Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal neck x 2, dorsal stern x 2, dorsal nacelles x 2)
6 x Torpedo tubes (hull forward x 2, neck forward x 2, dorsal spine aft x 2)

(Engineering-focused version with a wider saucer, short nacelles and Ambassador-style pylons with backup impulse engines. Very large crew - I counted 252 visible (square) escape pods. The Sojourner mesh has a docking well for an Aquarius-class escort in the stern, and a shuttle hangar in the saucer.)

USS Endeavour NCC-98500
4 x Long Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2)
7 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 1, ventral belly x 2, ventral stern x 2, dorsal neck x 2*)
12 x Short Phaser Array Strips (dorsal saucer x 2, ventral saucer x 2, dorsal neck x 2, dorsal stern x 2, dorsal nacelles x 2, ventral pylons x 2)
6 x Torpedo tubes (neck forward x 2, saucer forward x 2, stern aft x 2)
2 x Phaser turrets (forward ventral x 1, dorsal stern x 1)**

(Tactical-focused version with a triangular saucer, forward-swept pylons with backup impulse engines, and a larger hangar. Smallest crew of the lot - 166 visible (square) escape pods, the vast majority on the saucer. The Endeavour mesh has a docking well for an Aquarius-class escort in the stern, and a hangar in the saucer. Unlike the others, the docking well is covered from the top, and the hangar extends several meters further back.)

Odyssey/Yorktown/Sojourner/Endeavor notes:

The Flagship Cruisers are no longer quite the biggest ships available in the game, what with the Jupiter-class carrier and the Vengeance-class dreadnought, but they still utterly dwarf anything that showed up on screen in the TNG-era movies. And they all have a crapload of phasers, and possibly even more torpedo tubes than what I've written down - on the Odyssey, Sojourner and Yorktown, there are a few apertures that look like they're meant to be the same kind of twin torpedo tubes that were on the Sovereign class (forward and aft edges of the belly, with 2 forward and 1 aft on the Odyssey, and 1 forward and 1 aft in the Yorktown and Sojourner); and on the Endeavour, there may be two *quad* torp tubes forward and two aft in more or less the same location. The problem is the design of the Endeavor is so different I can't be certain that's what they are, so I left all of them off for now.

It's a real shame that the game mechanics essentially force you to drop your torps for optimum damage output -


USS Vesta NCC-82601

4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (saucer dorsal x 2, saucer ventral x 2)
3 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (belly x 1, pylons ventral x 2)
5 x Short Phaser Array Strips (saucer edge x 4, dorsal spine x 1)
6 x cannons (saucer front x 2, hull forward x 4)
2 x photon torpedo tubes (stern aft x 2)
4 x phaser turrets (dorsal x 4)**

(Multi-Mission Surveillance Explorer. 96 escape pods, no visible forward torpedo armament. Carrier/Science Ship Hybrid. )

USS Aventine NCC-82602
4 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (saucer dorsal x 2, saucer ventral x 2)
1 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (belly x 1)
9 x Short Phaser Array Strips (saucer edge x 2, dorsal spine x 3, ventral pylons x 4)
6 x Phaser cannons (saucer front x 4, hull front x2)
4 x phaser turrets (dorsal)**

(Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Explorer. 60 escape pods. No visible torpedo tubes! Carrier/Science Ship hybrid.)

USS Rademaker NCC-82603

2 x Very Long Phaser Array Strips (saucer ventral x 2)
4 x Long Phaser Array Strips (saucer dorsal x 4)
6 x Medium Phaser Array Strips (spine dorsal x 2, belly x 2, pylons ventral x 2)
4 x Phaser Cannons (saucer front x 2, hull front x 2)
2 x Torpedo tubes (stern aft x 2)
4 x phaser turrets? (dorsal x 4)**

(Multi-Mission Strategic Explorer. 66 escape pods. No forward torpedoes visible. Science Ship/Carrier Hybrid. This is the one with the funky shielded shuttle landing pad)

Vesta/Aventine/Rademaker Notes:

The Multi-Mission Explorers are strange beasts. They're Science Ship/Carrier hybrids, with Science Ship abilities in game, large hangars for launching Danube-class runabouts, and equipped with heavy cannons forward which is usually something reserved for tactical ships like Escorts and Battlecruisers. They also all lack apparent forward torpedo tubes, and the Aventine lacks *aft* torpedo tubes as well.

*) These strips are exposed only when the saucer section detaches. I managed to confirm that the arrangement is the same for all versions due to a very lucky clipping error that caused the saucer to become invisible in the viewer.
**) I *think* that's what these circular things are. The Vesta class variants have four, all dorsal, and the Endeavor has two (one on the fantail and one under the saucer, on the neck part). Some of the other ships use similar constructions as sockets for more obvious turret-like things, which I'll write up once the server maintenance is over...

[Winchester]

USS Avenger NCC-97500
13 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 4, saucer ventral x 4, belly x 1, pylons ventral x 2, stern x 2)
3 x Very Short Phaser Array Strip (nacelle dorsal x 2, neck dorsal x 1)
2 x Phaser Turrets (belly x 1, stern ventral x 1)
7 x Phaser Cannons (saucer forward edge x 3, saucer side forward x 4)
4 x VATA Torpedo Tubes? (hull forward x 4)

(Battlecruiser is supposed to be armed with cannons, turrets, and the Variable Auto-Targeting Armament, which are basically big guided torpedoes that fire smaller torpedoes and tachyon beams. Quite maneuverable compared to most cruisers. 8 large and 8 small escape pods on top, 42 large and 8 small or medium escape pods on bottom.)

USS Arbiter NCC-97501
4 x Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 2, saucer ventral x 2)
9 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 2, saucer ventral x 2, belly x 2, pylons ventral x 2, stern dorsal x 1)
4 x Very Short Phaser Array Strip (nacelles dorsal x 2, stern ventral x 2)
4 x Phaser turrets (saucer ventral x 1, spine dorsal x 1, fantail dorsal x 1, stern ventral x 1)
4 x Phaser Cannons (turret front x 4)
4 x Torpedo Tubes (stern aft x 4)

(Upgraded battlecruiser, I doesn't say if it's supposed to be able to use VATA torpedoes or not. 4 large, 4 medium, 24 small escape pods on top; 18 large, 4 medium, 16 small escape pods on the bottom. Very small shuttlebay.)

USS Concorde NCC-47401
2 x Medium Phaser Array Strip (stern ventral)
14 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 4, saucer ventral x 4, nacelles dorsal x 2, belly x 2)
4 x Phaser Cannons (turret edge x 4)
4 x Phaser Turrets? (saucer dorsal x 1, saucer ventral x 1, stern dorsal x 1, stern ventral x 1)*
4 x Torpedo tubes (hull forward x 2, stern aft x 2)

(Operations command battlecruiser. 22 escape pods on top, 22 on the bottom. Crew is probably heavily photonic, i.e. holograms. Small and hard to access shuttlebay.)

USS Geneva NCC-47702
12 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 4, saucer ventral x 4, nacelles dorsal x 2, stern x 2
4 x Phaser Cannons (turret edge x 4)
4 x Phaser Turrets (saucer dorsal x 1, saucer ventral x 1, stern dorsal x 1, stern ventral x1)*
2 x Torpedo tubes (hull forward x 2)

(Science command battlecruiser. 28 escape pods on top, can't see *any* on the bottom. Also, shuttle bay is small and hard to access.)

USS Presidio NCC-47700
20 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 8, saucer ventral x 8, belly x 2, upper nacelles broadside x 2)
4 x Phaser Cannons (turret edge x 4)
4 x Phaser Turret (saucer dorsal x 1, stern dorsal x 1, stern ventral x 1)*
4 x Torpedo Tubes (hull forward x 2, stern aft x 2)

(Tactical command battle cruiser. Very phaser heavy. 28 escape pods on top, 4 on the bottom. Like the others, the shuttle bay door is tiny and hard to access.)

*)I'm not *positive* these are phaser turrets, they don't use the same design as the ones on the preceding battlecruisers, seeing as they're glowing blue instead of red.

USS Resolute NCC-47850
2 x Very Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 2)
4 x Short Phaser Array Strip (belly x 2, stern dorsal x 2)
8 x Very Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer ventral x 8)
4 x Phaser Cannons (saucer front x 2, hull front x 2)
4 x Torpedo Tubes (hull front x 2, stern aft x 2)

(Advanced heavy cruiser, essentially the 2409 equivalent of the Excelsior. More or less same length, much narrower saucer. 54 dorsal and 18 ventral escape pods. Stern shuttle bay is inverted compared to Excelsior - it's on the underside rather than the top.)

USS Alita NCC-97305
2 x Very Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 2)
1 x Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer ventral x 2, belly x 1)
6 x Short Phaser Array Strip (saucer, ventral x 2, pylons dorsal x 2, pylons ventral x 2)
8 x Phaser Cannons (saucer front x 4, saucer edge forward x 2, nacelles forward x 2)
? x Phaser Turrets (I can't tell which ones are the turrets!)
14 x Torpedo Tubes (hull forward x 2, pod forward x 6, pod aft x 4, hull aft x 2)

(Heavy escort carrier, like the Resolute above it's essentially a 2409 version of the Akira. It carries *all* the torpedoes, *all* the cannons, and fighters too, in three launch bays - 2 forward, 1 aft. 30 dorsal and 40 ventral escape pods).

USS Jupiter NCC-97740
8 x Very Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 4, saucer ventral x 4)
4 x Long Phaser Array Strip (upper nacelles broadside x 2, lower nacelles broadside x 2)
4 x Phaser Cannons (saucer edge forward x 4)
2 x Phaser Turret (saucer forward dorsal x 1, saucer forward ventral x 1, saucer aft dorsal x 1, saucer aft ventral x 1)
4 x Torpedo Tubes (saucer forward x 2, hull aft x 2)

(Fleet carrier, biggest ship ever built by Starfleet at 1,600 meters long. Carries Peregrine fighters standard. 142 dorsal and 142 ventral escape pods - and these are the big square ones!)

USS Andromeda NCC-47700
2 x Extremely Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 1, saucer ventral x 1)
2 x Medium Phaser Array Strip (belly x 1, neck dorsal x 1*)
6 x Short Phaser Array Strip (stern dorsal x 2, stern ventral x 2, pylons broadside x 2)
8 x Torpedo Tubes (neck forward x 2, neck aft x 4, stern aft x 2)

(Exploration cruiser. Basically the modern version of the Galaxy with all that entails, including saucer separation. 120 dorsal and 212 ventral escape pods on the saucer; no dorsal and 46 ventral escape pods on engineering hull)

USS Pathfinder NCC-47655
2 x Very Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer dorsal x 2)
2 x Long Phaser Array Strip (saucer ventral x 2)
1 x Medium Phaser Array Strip (belly x 1)
4 x Short Phaser Array Strip (neck dorsal x 2, neck ventral x 2)
4 x Very Short Phaser Array Strip (stern ventral x 2, stern dorsal x 2)
4 x Torpedo Tubes (hull forward x 2, neck aft x 2)

(Long Range Science Vessel, once again essentially an updated canon ship, this time the Intrepid-class. 40 dorsal and 10 ventral escape pods.)

USS Guardian NCC-47501
4 x Long Phaser Array (saucer dorsal x 2, saucer ventral x 2)
4 x Medium Phaser Array (belly x 2, nacelles dorsal x 2)
2 x Short Phaser Array (nacelles ventral x 2)
? x Torpedo Tubes (I can't find them!)

(The Guardian Cruiser is apparently based off of some unused concept art of the Ambassador class, and it's noted on the wiki it bears a striking resemblance to the NCC-1701-C model on the Memorial Wall in early seasons of TNG. Unlike the other "updated for 2410" ships above, this one does not come with an option to put the old canon skins on it - it's a different size from the Ambassador. I'll have to take mine out and compare it to the one that's sitting out on display outside ESD in the game, but I suspect the Guardian is larger. The Guardian also comes with two models using the same name and number for their default preview skins - one really looks like early TNG era, the other looks like the present day schemes with white and metallic and lots of glowing orange and blue, but they have the same visible armament. The "modern" version has 80 dorsal and 78 ventral escape pods, the "TNG" version has 82 dorsal and 78 ventral escape pods.)

Edit: It's way, way bigger than an Ambassador. Based on direct comparison with my Sovereign, I'd estimate a 750 meter overall length for the Guardian, and it's nearly twice as wide as the Sovereign as well.

[Chris Donovan]

Has anyone been able to extract or extrapolate solid numbers for the length and crew complement of the Odyssey class? Only sources I have say she's in the 1060m range and ~2400-2500 total complement, but I don't know if I trust the sources.

[Winchester]

The crew numbers come from a now-deprecated in-game stat that governed how fast your ship repaired damage and a few other things. As the canon ships all had their canon values (more or less) for crew, it's assumed that the crew given for the STO-only ships are as accurate.

The length comes from data mining, basically someone went looking in the game files for the numbers that tell the game what size to render the ships as. Problem is, no one has revisited that for quite some time so none of the recent ships have known sizes.

I just tweeted Thomas Marrone, one of STO's ship designers, asking him directly about the overall dimensions of the ships (he's the guy who made the Sojourner, Endeavor and Yorktown, and most likely the redone Odyssey mesh) since posted a publicly viewable gallery complete with a 3D model of the Sojourner the other day. He's been good about replying to others who posted comments, so I figured why not.

[Chris Donovan]

The crew numbers come from a now-deprecated in-game stat that governed how fast your ship repaired damage and a few other things. As the canon ships all had their canon values (more or less) for crew, it's assumed that the crew given for the STO-only ships are as accurate.

The length comes from data mining, basically someone went looking in the game files for the numbers that tell the game what size to render the ships as. Problem is, no one has revisited that for quite some time so none of the recent ships have known sizes.

I just tweeted Thomas Marrone, one of STO's ship designers, asking him directly about the overall dimensions of the ships (he's the guy who made the Sojourner, Endeavor and Yorktown, and most likely the redone Odyssey mesh) since posted a publicly viewable gallery complete with a 3D model of the Sojourner the other day. He's been good about replying to others who posted comments, so I figured why not.

Do those numbers match what you've heard previously?